The Nyets
- Thread starter Devizier
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If the Kings are willing pay tax, I think that makes some sense for them. Derrick Williams and Jason Thompson are whatever, Collison's better than a JAG but not much. Deron isn't a top player anymore, but they might see some success, which would help keep Cousins happy (and by extension, keep him around when he hits FA).
Being able to unload Deron's contract would be a miracle for the Nets, but it wouldn't change their near-term fortunes much. Plumlee has put up numbers but he's the only young cheap talent on the roster. Draft pick situation is obviously dire. Lopez can't stay healthy and isn't great anyway; good chance he picks up his option to try to reestablish some FA value. KG's on his way out.
Even if they are able to clear one or two of their big salaries, I don't see it mattering much since teams like the Lakers and Knicks are about to have cap space for the first time in forever, and nobody's signing anywhere to go play with Joe Johnson or for Lionel Hollins.
Even if they are able to clear one or two of their big salaries, I don't see it mattering much since teams like the Lakers and Knicks are about to have cap space for the first time in forever, and nobody's signing anywhere to go play with Joe Johnson or for Lionel Hollins.
I think plenty of free agents would love to play in Brooklyn. It's not like Lakers or Knicks have interesting rosters either.
The Nets are in terrible shape. C's own all of their picks, no young players to build around, rumors of uncertain ownership, and so on. They'll have to weather this next 3-4 years before they're hugely relevant in FA.swingin val said:
Don't forget the Hawks can swap their first-round pick with the Nets' pick if they want next summer - the more games the Hawks keep winning this season, the worse off the Nets are going to be. (Thank you, Joe Johnson!)
So, Mason Plumlee is a real thing now. Too bad Lopez gets hurt all the time or they could flip him for an actual asset.
BigSoxFan said:
I auto-hated Williams because I liked Jerry Sloan. Having said that, I am very impressed by his game when he is healthy.
I cannot see another team seriously taking on a contract like Williams' without something juicy thrown in. And at that point, wasting Plumlee as sweetener will be throwing good money after bad. That said, if a foolish team wants to help Brooklyn get out from under Williams, they should leap.
Flipping Plumlee makes the most sense to get assets back.
Lopez may also be movable in the "some team might be willing to take a 16M rental on a difference-maker (when healthy).
Finally, most importantly, great thread name. Well done, dev. :bravo:
Flipping Plumlee makes the most sense to get assets back.
Lopez may also be movable in the "some team might be willing to take a 16M rental on a difference-maker (when healthy).
Finally, most importantly, great thread name. Well done, dev. :bravo:
Of course the day we kill the guy he blows up for 30 and they blow out the Bulls on the road. Fucking sports.
Deron Williams has a fractured rib and is out indefinitely. Not that it was ever particularly likely, but it's now a near-certainty that they won't be able to unload him this season. One of the least valuable players in the league right now. Two and a half more years!
I'm a huge celtics homer and I cannot even deny that KG is the fakest tough guy I've ever seen.riboflav said:
Here's the video, with detailed film breakdown of the individual slaps and pushes. That looked like a solid headbutt.
http://deadspin.com/kevin-garnett-chucks-ball-at-headbutts-dwight-howard-1679128562
http://deadspin.com/kevin-garnett-chucks-ball-at-headbutts-dwight-howard-1679128562
Agreed, sort of. KG running toward Howard toward the end of the scrum and practically begging some to hold him back is pretty hilarious. I vaguely recall Carmelo Anthony pulling the same move when he was with the Nuggets. "Hold me back, bro. Somebody....please?"Devizier said:
Fuck Howard. Every single guy in the NBA has wanted to do that to Howard at some point, including his teammates, so good for KG for shutting him the fuck up.
The rest of it, whatever, but he's still the fucking man.
The rest of it, whatever, but he's still the fucking man.
Gdiguy said:
$223 million. That sale may have been the biggest scam in the history of the NBA. He's going to make a ridiculous sum on this sale. Either way, I hope a good group gets involved and that they get rid of Billy King and start over on this failed experiment.
nighthob said:
I'm pretty sure Ratner was in on it. Working theory seems to be that they claimed the Nets, as an asset, weren't worth much which allowed Stern to cry poor during the CBA negotiations that immediately followed. Prokhorov then moved the Nets to Brooklyn and pushed forward the plans to very conveniently build a couple hundred condos, etc. on land owned by Ratner.
Celtics have Brooklyn's 2016/2018 1st round picks and the ability to switch 1st round picks in 2017.
Current contract commitments:
2015 end - Garnett, Teletovic, Jordan, Morris
2016 end - Johnson, Anderson, Jack (assumes team option for 2017 not exercised), Lopez (assumes player option exercised)
2017 end - Jefferson/Brown (assumes all options exercised by team), Williams
2018 end - Plumlee/Karasev/Bogdanovic (assumes all options exercised by team)
If the Nets trade Lopez for Perk, Lamb and Jerrett, as rumored, the Nets will be at roughly $63mm with 10 players under contract next year (Perk is a FA and Jerrett has a team option unlikely to be exercised) and little ability to add salaries without trading Johnson ($25mm expiring contract) or Williams ($21mm contract, exp. 2017).
I assume they'll try to trade Garnett at the trade deadline.
Current contract commitments:
2015 end - Garnett, Teletovic, Jordan, Morris
2016 end - Johnson, Anderson, Jack (assumes team option for 2017 not exercised), Lopez (assumes player option exercised)
2017 end - Jefferson/Brown (assumes all options exercised by team), Williams
2018 end - Plumlee/Karasev/Bogdanovic (assumes all options exercised by team)
If the Nets trade Lopez for Perk, Lamb and Jerrett, as rumored, the Nets will be at roughly $63mm with 10 players under contract next year (Perk is a FA and Jerrett has a team option unlikely to be exercised) and little ability to add salaries without trading Johnson ($25mm expiring contract) or Williams ($21mm contract, exp. 2017).
I assume they'll try to trade Garnett at the trade deadline.
Young has a $9.7 mil player option. Whether or not he exercises it would be pretty inconsequential for what is already looking like a lost '15/'16 for them. Opting in doesn't make them better and opting out doesn't save them enough space to do anything of importance.
I'm sure they'll try like hell to move JJ but I don't know why any team would do it unless they get to unload longer term bad contracts on the Nets. You don't need to pay $25 mil for a guy to shoot threes.
Williams basically has negative trade value. One of the league's worst contracts at a time when most teams have a better player at his position.
Feels like they should be moving on this before he inevitably breaks a foot again but hey, I'm just a guy sitting on my ass counting draft picks.