The Premier League's New Financial Landscape

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The rumor that Palace may try to buy Cabaye from PSG got me really thinking about how crazy this new TV deal is going to make the Premier League.  This year Palace received about £77m for finishing 10th in the league.  Under the new deal starting in 2016-17, Palace would receive approximately £118m for the same finish.  That's an increase of £41m, which is almost as much as their entire wage bill this year (£46m).  They had something like £15m in other (matchday and commercial) revenues in 2014 so adding that to the projected future TV distribution would bring them to around £133m in total revenues in a hypothetical 2017.  For comparison, Inter Milan's total revenue in 2014 was £137m and  Atletico Madrid's total revenue in 2014 was £142m.  Those clubs will probably see revenue increases but just the idea of a club like Palace and a club like Inter being on relatively equal footing financially is pretty bonkers. 
 
I think we'll see a lot of mid and lower table Premier League clubs investing heavily this summer to improve their chances of staying up and getting a slice of that pie starting in 2016-17.  And it should  make the league that much more exciting. 
 

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Picking back up on this:
 
-West Ham bought Payet, one of Marseille's best players. 
-Palace is still reportedly after Cabaye, surplus to requirements at PSG but a great player.
-Stoke is rumored to be buying Shaquiri, one of Inter's best players.
 
The quality at the top still might not rival other leagues, but the Premier League is going to be really tough and really fun to watch.
 

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I thought of this thread immediately when I read the Shaqiri news.  A year ago Liverpool were chasing him and now Stoke have the money to do so.
 
The very top of the EPL still has a ways to go to catch La Firma Vieja and Bayern, but I'm pretty sure 8th-12th in the EPL will be the best 8-12 in Europe. 
 
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I thought of this thread immediately when I read the Shaqiri news.  A year ago Liverpool were chasing him and now Stoke have the money to do so.
 
The very top of the EPL still has a ways to go to catch La Firma Vieja and Bayern, but I'm pretty sure 8th-12th in the EPL will be the best 8-12 in Europe. 
 
Unfortunately, what England really needs is for its 5th-7th best teams to be the best 5-7 in Europe...and then to somehow get them to care about the Europa League. Otherwise, within a few years the Premier League will likely have only three Champions League slots to play for instead of four, given the way England's UEFA coefficient is sliding.
 

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You aren't kidding.  England loses 70% of its lead over Italy for the last 4xUCL spot with the 2010-11 results moving out next year.  As top-heavy as Italy is, if the 2014-15 results are repeated, England loses that spot in 2017-18.
 
One thing worth noting, though: West Ham playing in the Europa League qualifying rounds could be a big help to England.  If they flame out in the qualifiers it would be a negative, but considering that they're adding quality players, they could hang a big coefficient point number (20+) by getting through the group stages of the EL.
 

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DLew On Roids said:
As top-heavy as Italy is, if the 2014-15 results are repeated, England loses that spot in 2017-18.
 
Do you really think Italy is top heavy? Yes, Juventus had an amazing run but outside of them, would you pick Roma or Lazio to go farther than any of the 4 English teams?
 
Sure all seven English teams could bomb out like last year, but that doesn't strike me as a likely scenario, especially given the influx of cash.
 

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DLew On Roids said:
You aren't kidding.  England loses 70% of its lead over Italy for the last 4xUCL spot with the 2010-11 results moving out next year.  As top-heavy as Italy is, if the 2014-15 results are repeated, England loses that spot in 2017-18.
 
One thing worth noting, though: West Ham playing in the Europa League qualifying rounds could be a big help to England.  If they flame out in the qualifiers it would be a negative, but considering that they're adding quality players, they could hang a big coefficient point number (20+) by getting through the group stages of the EL.
Qualifying Rounds are only 1 coefficient point for a win, so even if West Ham qualify for the group stage by winning all 8 matches in the qualifying rounds, that's only 8 coefficient points, which corresponds to one point for England, since the points will be divided by 8 due to England having 8 teams in Europe. 
 

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DLew On Roids said:
I thought of this thread immediately when I read the Shaqiri news.  A year ago Liverpool were chasing him and now Stoke have the money to do so.
 
The very top of the EPL still has a ways to go to catch La Firma Vieja and Bayern, but I'm pretty sure 8th-12th in the EPL will be the best 8-12 in Europe. 
Absolutely. The idea that every Premier League match is tough has been a truism for a while but it's going to get reaaaaally tough in the next few years. I'm all for it.
 

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swiftaw said:
Qualifying Rounds are only 1 coefficient point for a win, so even if West Ham qualify for the group stage by winning all 8 matches in the qualifying rounds, that's only 8 coefficient points, which corresponds to one point for England, since the points will be divided by 8 due to England having 8 teams in Europe. 
Right, but qualifying for the knockout rounds would in that case almost certainly put them around 20 total points, which would help England's average immensely.
 

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So here's one. Carlos Vela decided to stay at Real Sociedad after West Ham triggered his €30m (£21m) release clause.
WHAT THE FUCK, I mean Gold and Sullivan have money, but most of that is going to paying down debt. To make that kind of bid after already spending something like €20m, is amazing.
 

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Newcastle seems close to signing both Georginio Wijnaldum, the PSV midfielder and Dutch international, and Aleksandar Mitrovic, a striker from Anderlecht.  Reported fees for each are around 13-14m pounds and I believe that would make each of them the most expensive buys of the Ashley era.
 
These seem like great moves to me.  Obviously the Belgian league isn't the toughest in the world, but Mitrovic scored 27 goals across all competitions last year as a 20-year-old, which is impressive no matter where you're playing.  The only time I've seen him he absolutely killed Arsenal after coming on as a sub in the 3-3 draw at Emirates last fall, drawing the penalty to get to 3-2 and then scoring the header that leveled the match.
 

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Villa has now signed three guys named Jordan - Ayew, Amavi, and Veretout - from Ligue 1 sides for somewhere in the ballpark of 24m pounds total.
 
Every decent Ligue 1 player outside PSG and Lyon is getting hoovered up by midtable English clubs this summer.
 

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A deal for Kevin De Bruyne to go from Wolfsburg to Man City seems to be drawing nearer.
 
They must have found some spare cash hiding down the back of the sofa as I keep hearing they don't spend very much. Strange that.
 

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Can somebody offer a table or a link with transfer sums (spent and earned) per league of the Top5/Top10 leagues?
 
It would be interesting to see the sums that were spent on players from other leagues/countries and the sums in the own league (like, Premier League teams buy 80 players from other Premier League clubs for 200mil € and 120 players from foreign countries for 400mil.€, while LaLiga teams buy 150 players from Spanish teams for 100mil.€ and 24 players for 100mil.€ from foreign leagues, for example)...
 
You can say what you want, maybe this spending will improve Premier League teams in the short and long run, but in the next five years, the British players will struggle to get playing time. Sure, there were probably tons of transfers from Team A to Team B involving some England player.
Thinking about all of those "mid-market-transfers", which are involving big sums/earnings for the average Bundesliga team and are sometimes actually really average players (Shinji Okazaki, Joselu, Kevin Wimmer, Philipp Wollscheid), I wonder where the average English player will end up. A defender like Philipp Wollscheid doesn´t need to be bought into your league, when every team buys players like insane and should have a surplus on their roster.