Actual quote: "When Stephen A Smith said it last week, that lends credence to it". Everything you need to know right there.
Gotta agree. Guys like Shaughnessy and Borges are irritating trolls, but they aren't stupid. Volin on the other hand just seems flat out dumb. He has all the right troll instincts, but is just too stupid the actually be good at it.Ed Hillel said:What a fucking moron. I assume a guy like Doyell is just trolling, but Volin strikes me more as just really fucking stupid. He really believes this shit.
Well splendid. The old saw that the NFL went light on BB on Spygate because he has files implicating the NFL on everything short of the JFK hit.Rusty13 said:He's on D&C right now hacking it up and feeding conspiracy theories about how it's inconceivable that BB wasn't implicated and may have been "protected" by the league. He actually resorts to "Well Steven A. Smith think so!" as a his sole source of credibility for this theory. He has become so pathetic.
Gorton Fisherman said:Gotta agree. Guys like Shaughnessy and Borges are irritating trolls, but they aren't stupid. Volin on the other hand just seems flat out dumb. He has all the right troll instincts, but is just too stupid the actually be good at it.
Were this to be true, it would make the league look even more stupid and incompetent than it already does look, which is saying something.Rusty13 said:He's on D&C right now hacking it up and feeding conspiracy theories about how it's inconceivable that BB wasn't implicated and may have been "protected" by the league. He actually resorts to "Well Steven A. Smith think so!" as a his sole source of credibility for this theory. He has become so pathetic.
Super Nomario, on 16 Aug 2015 - 2:03 PM, said:
Super Nomario said:To be fair, if you're Volin, and an NFL owner comes to you with this, you pretty much have to print it, don't you? I don't really begrudge him, and I suspect that it is an accurate reflection of how many in the game feel about the Patriots. He probably goes a bit farther than he needs to, but I'm more frustrated that this is the perception than that Volin wrote about it. Does any reporter keep that under his hat?
Rusty13 said:He's on D&C right now hacking it up and feeding conspiracy theories about how it's inconceivable that BB wasn't implicated and may have been "protected" by the league. He actually resorts to "Well Steven A. Smith think so!" as a his sole source of credibility for this theory. He has become so pathetic.
DrewDawg said:Volin seems rather incurious though.
First NFL-side leak was 11 of 12 under by 2 pounds. Wrong.
Then it was Brady wanted transcripts sealed. Wrong.
Then it was Brady didn't admit talking about Deflategate with equipment guy in hearing. Wrong.
Those aren't arguable things, where one can lean either way--they are 100% false statements.
Now we have this claim. And Volin didn't think to question it a bit more?
Fixed that for you.MuppetAsteriskTalk said:He tries to give Smith's story more credibility by suggesting that because the phone story was true this must also be true because it likely came from the same source.
The problem with that is the phone story was twisted to paint Brady in the worst possible light, and the source is the same source that leaked a dozen other lies and half truths. The reason they had to resort to using SAS as the mouthpiece was because they already burned all the usual league mouthpieces.
Only a moronor somebodywith an agenda and no integrity would run with this the way Volin has.
lexrageorge said:So, today, Volin is wondering why Belichick got off so easy on DeflateGate, using the fact that the Falcons' President was "punished" despite not being directly involved in the pumping in of artificial crowd noise:
a.) Wells went out of his way to completely exonerate Belichick. My guess is that no matter what the NFL Bylaws state, Belichick's lawyer would have a field day in court for his client being punished after being officially cleared.
b.) Rosencrantz and Guilderstern, while employees of the Patriots, were not employees of Belichick.
c.) The people that did pump in the crowd noise were, you know, actually employees of McKay.
d.) McKay's punishment was that he missed a couple of committee meetings during the NFL offseason. Which means that McKay missed a handful of free meals in a 5-star hotel. I think he'll get over it.
It's amazing that Volin does not get any of the above points. The Globe's decline is accelerating at a rather exponential rate.
He is breathtakingly stupid.Van Everyman said:This is about as bad as Volin's been:
Can we trade him to ESPN for Mike Reiss?John Marzano Olympic Hero said:Where is this guy from? I can't believe the globe thought he was a great hire.
You think Goodells going to approve that??? Volin isn't worth more than a 2017 6th round pickEddie Jurak said:Can we trade him to ESPN for Mike Reiss?
The couch one was great, but this this one was a wonderful zinger in my opinionSuper Nomario said:Jeff Howe is killing Volin on Twitter for blocking him. Gloves off. Saying Volin has been covering the team from his couch for the last month.
yecul said:Does he get clicks and attention? I guess I'm missing the relevance of his quality from their standpoint.
soxfan121 said:
Yours was post 134 about him. So yeah, he gets attention. And believe me, he and his employer don't care that 95% of those 134 are people either hating him or wondering why he doesn't jump in a woodchipper.
PedroKsBambino said:
They do however care that 1 of those 134 is mine, and I will never click on anything that his associated with him. And I'm sure I am not alone.
There is in fact a relationship between quality and clicks, and while not 100% direct, or 100% instant, his employer will care because he will not generate the pageviews they want if many serious sports fans do not take him seriously. CHB is so good at trolling that he generates clicks and that gives him some protection---guys like Volin shouldn't be judged on that same standard, as he isn't good enough to suck people into that game.
PedroKsBambino said:
They do however care that 1 of those 134 is mine, and I will never click on anything that his associated with him. And I'm sure I am not alone.
There is in fact a relationship between quality and clicks, and while not 100% direct, or 100% instant, his employer will care because he will not generate the pageviews they want if many serious sports fans do not take him seriously. CHB is so good at trolling that he generates clicks and that gives him some protection---guys like Volin shouldn't be judged on that same standard, as he isn't good enough to suck people into that game.
nattysez said:
No one in their right mind reads Eric Wilbur, yet he's still employed by the Boston.com. I think hoping that Boston.com/The Globe will rid itself of Volin is probably going to leave you disappointed.
While he's not a Globie, the fact that John Tomase is not only still writing sports for a living in the Boston area, but still writes about the Pats on occasion, absolutely blows my mind. I'm heartened by the fact that the comments after each of his articles is a bloodbath.
soxfan121 said:
Sorry, but they most definitely do not care about you. For all of "you" - and you're not alone - the numbers of people who DO engage with Volin (or other media people you "hate") vastly outnumber "you".
The solution is for "you" to support media that isn't trolling for attention/clicks. To click on those sites and writers you would prefer to have a bigger role and voice than Volin. Because it is the comparison that matters to the The Globe (or any for profit media company). The great local example is Doug Kyed* at NESN, who has worked his way to his current gig by not engaging in "hot takes" and solidly doing his job. For him to take the next step, "you" have to read his stuff, re-tweet him, engage him, promote him, give him page clicks at Volin's expense.
I'll stop there but I've got a lot more to say about how to support (or not support) your favorite local media. Suffice to say I think many people are more interested in complaining about the known hacks than changing their habits and "ditching" the Globe, permanently.
If you really want to hurt Volin, find the Kyed alternative. And tell your friends to do the same thing. Not your SoSH friends. Your casual sports fan friends who don't know that the guy to follow is the NESN reporter, not the Globe reporter.
*Note: Jeff Howe is a perfectly acceptable alternative to Kyed, locally.
soxfan121 said:
First, by reading or enjoying "the bloodbath" you're one of the people supporting his continued employment. The click counter doesn't ask whether you're there for the bloodbath or the content. They don't care, so long as you click.
Second, this attitude is exactly why he still has a job at a local media outlet. The multipage threads about people SoSH hates...and the threads that die out quickly on people like Alex Speier or Kyed (see above) is proof that it's more about the complaint than it is the desire for "good" media coverage.
PedroKsBambino said:
You do not seem to understand the Globe's business model---they most certainly do care about people not reading their writers. They care about both absolute numbers and relative ones, because that is part of the pricing model and spend analysis over time.
Had you read and thought about my comments before spewing out your hot takez response above, you perhaps would have recognized that one of my points was precisely not to support writers who simply bait their audience for clicks. You have no idea what I suggest to my friends about who they read, so please step away from the ledge and stop suggesting that you do.
We would all benefit from you dialing back the rhetoric, taking the time to read posts before responding, and trying to live up to the standard you suggest we should aspire to in writers; your post is 100% Volin and you should be trying for better than that.
Under an expedited schedule agreed to by the NFL and NFLPA, the NFLPA’s response brief is due on Dec. 7, the NFL’s reply brief on Dec. 21, oral arguments would likely take place in January, and a panel of three judges will likely make a decision sometime after the Super Bowl in February.
joe dokes said:In his story about the NFL's brief, Volin says:
Didn't the 2nd Circuit explicitly say that the argument would be no earlier than Feb 1?
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2015/09/appeals_court_sets_early_february_target_for_nfl_vs_tom_brady
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit today allowed a joint request to expedite the appeals process. However, oral arguments “shall be heard as early as the week of February 1, 2016,” according to a court order released today.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2016/03/12/free-agency-kicked-off-with-bang/iWMbsRFRioTNAKOoGjJi1I/story.htmlBetween the Patriots dropping Brady’s base salaries to $1 million the next two seasons, and the release on Friday of an 8,000-word opus debunking the top 15 myths about Deflategate on “The Wells Report In Context,” the Patriots sure seem like a team that is bracing for Brady to lose the appeal and serve his four-game suspension. We applaud the Patriots’ attempt at transparency, but if they’re so passionate about their innocence and setting the record straight, it’s time to stop barking and take the NFL to court . . .