Warren Sapp arrested for soliciting a prostitute
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Jim Ed Rice in HOF said:
He thought he was at McDonalds and tried to pay for the hooker with an additional display of love.
He should have developed a dance before he got canned, so he can make a bunch of commercials in the year 2030.
Plan for the future Sapp! Didn't they teach you at... NM.
Plan for the future Sapp! Didn't they teach you at... NM.
DukeSox said:
This is in response to people getting caught up in prostitution stings generally. It's NOT a response to the Sapp situation.
"Solicitation" is asking for sex for money (or, technically, other compensation, but it's rare to see that). So it's a crime of intent - basically you ask someone to make an illegal contract with you. So there's an immediate gray area when (most commonly) we have guys talking to a woman who is in some way advertising herself as sexually available.
Stings (especially street stings) are quota type things. So if you just walk over to chat or joke around or see what's up, and have no real intent to cough up the money for the sex act, there's a chance they'll be trying to make quota and nab you anyway based on anything suggestive. In reality, there are a lot of guys who just talk to women. Or talk shit around women. Or are just arrested for approaching an undercover officer. Or have a sexual interest but aren't serious. Or are just curious about going rates. Or who don't know if that's a hot girl waiting for a ride. (For example, I once defended a group of 3 14 years olds who asked a UC sting officer if she'd have sex with them for $100. When arrested they had >$20 on them. I defended another guy who asked a UC sting officer "How much do you charge for stuff?" because he had a bet with his friend about going rates.) A claim of "but I wasn't serious" does not get you un-arrested.
I'm not saying that everyone's innocent, but how do you determine when someone crosses the mental line with a "serious" money for sex offer that they really mean and are going to follow through with?
Escort/massage type stings are usually more believable in my book. They usually involve a lot of texting or emailing. But there's some gray.
Situations like the Maine Zumba thing or the Sapp situation are far more credible; since you have completed acts and/or admissions.
I understand why the state wants to regulate sex for money, in most cases by making it illegal. I don't think straight up illegality is the best approach, that's a personal political opinion. Regardless, the enforcement is often questionable and kind of puritanical/thought police-ish.
DukeSox said:
Escorts theoretically aren't prostitutes--they claim that they get paid to accompany people to parties, go out to the movies, whatever. Purely platonic, and thus legal. Part of the AZ permit is that you have to provide them with a description of all services provided and affirm that none of them are sexual in nature.
So this isn't his first Super Bowl brush with the law either courtesy of Wikipedia. You'd think that he would get it........nah. LOVING this thread BTW!
Domestic battery charges[SIZE=small][edit][/SIZE]
On February 7, 2010, Sapp was arrested in South Florida and charged with domestic battery while in Florida as an analyst for the NFL Network's coverage of Super Bowl XLIV, but following the arrest the NFL Network cancelled his appearance.[21] On March 24, however, the charges against Sapp were dropped.
Domestic battery charges[SIZE=small][edit][/SIZE]
On February 7, 2010, Sapp was arrested in South Florida and charged with domestic battery while in Florida as an analyst for the NFL Network's coverage of Super Bowl XLIV, but following the arrest the NFL Network cancelled his appearance.[21] On March 24, however, the charges against Sapp were dropped.
Please do explain this, as someone MTF myself. My life gave the following choice: Life as a young woman, or death. Not about a fetish, who I'm attracted to, but quite simply, who I am.Yaz4Ever said:
It appears Warren Sapp has officially entered the death spiral phase of his rags-to-riches-to-rags story...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Sapp
"...In 2010, PNC bank was awarded a judgment of $988,691.99, and in December 2011 filed a monthly lien of $33,333 against Sapp's $45,000 NFL Network paycheck. He also owed the Internal Revenue Service $853,003 from income in 2006 and $89,775 for 2010. He was $876,000 behind on alimony and child support for his former spouse, owed $68,738 for unpaid property taxes in Windermere and owed money to attorneys, friends and a speech therapist as well.[4]
On April 7, 2012, the Associated Press reported that Sapp had filed for bankruptcy in an effort to discharge debt from failed businesses. In these Chapter 7 filings, he claimed to have lost his University of Miami championship rings and his Buccaneer Super Bowl ring.[23] The balance in his checking and savings accounts was said to be less than $1,000. He claimed no credit card debt and owns no automobiles, but owes National Car Rental $90,685 through his business, Nine-Nine LLC.[4] Court filings indicated Sapp's assets totaled $6.45 million against a debt of $6.7 million. His monthly income was reported as $115,861.[24]
On November 1, 2012, Sapp's 10,000-square-foot house in Windermere was auctioned off and sold for $2.9 million..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Sapp
"...In 2010, PNC bank was awarded a judgment of $988,691.99, and in December 2011 filed a monthly lien of $33,333 against Sapp's $45,000 NFL Network paycheck. He also owed the Internal Revenue Service $853,003 from income in 2006 and $89,775 for 2010. He was $876,000 behind on alimony and child support for his former spouse, owed $68,738 for unpaid property taxes in Windermere and owed money to attorneys, friends and a speech therapist as well.[4]
On April 7, 2012, the Associated Press reported that Sapp had filed for bankruptcy in an effort to discharge debt from failed businesses. In these Chapter 7 filings, he claimed to have lost his University of Miami championship rings and his Buccaneer Super Bowl ring.[23] The balance in his checking and savings accounts was said to be less than $1,000. He claimed no credit card debt and owns no automobiles, but owes National Car Rental $90,685 through his business, Nine-Nine LLC.[4] Court filings indicated Sapp's assets totaled $6.45 million against a debt of $6.7 million. His monthly income was reported as $115,861.[24]
On November 1, 2012, Sapp's 10,000-square-foot house in Windermere was auctioned off and sold for $2.9 million..."
I am profoundly sorry for my stupid and callous comment yesterday. I'm going to edit it now so it doesn't offend anyone who hasn't already seen it. I've sent a more detailed apology via PM, which I hope you'll accept, but I wanted to apologize publicly as well as I know others were also hurt/puzzled/angered by my comment. That wasn't the intent, but that doesn't matter to anyone I insulted (nor should it).Delonte James Jr. said:
soxfanSJCA said:
Is it surprising to anyone else that this is such a small number? I guess on reflection this is a part-time gig (or is it?), but I was under the impression that these guys made pretty good bank as talking heads. Or is there a strong correlation between being a sports channel talking head former athlete and how much money you lost?
DrewDawg said:
It's awkwardly worded, but I think they mean month, too, by reference to the monthly lien being taken out.
Gotcha. That would make more sense.
So that makes him a super-duper dumbass. Dude makes $540,000 a year and can't remain solvent.
So that makes him a super-duper dumbass. Dude makes $540,000 a year and can't remain solvent.
I heard this morning his NFLN contract was $500k per year. So the $45k is per month.
He was not well liked in Tampa solely for the way he treated people, including children, when asking for autographs. Contrast him with Derrick Brooks. The most often word used yesterday in the area regarding Sapp? Karma.
He was not well liked in Tampa solely for the way he treated people, including children, when asking for autographs. Contrast him with Derrick Brooks. The most often word used yesterday in the area regarding Sapp? Karma.
Kremlin Watcher said:
Well, where does he live? Might not even be upper-class at that level if he's in NYC or something.
I don't think I've ever heard a good thing said about this man, and I seriously doubt he does any prep work for his appearances on his previous employers network. Karma is a bitch, and he deserves all that's coming to him. That said, he should've been fired for being a giant, no-talent jackass with a fat mouth. I am betting NFL Network was desperately looking for a way out after they hired him & saw what they got. Buh bye Mr. Sapp.
Or dead by 50. I wonder if any of his behavior is because of concussions. Just as likely as the coke theory.
Substance abuse tends to be a form of self medication. Obviously we are speculating but it seems to be a consensus that Sapp is a world class prick so whatever.
Never understand why networks hire idiots like this in the first place. I know football isn't a game populated by Mensa members, but there are enough intelligent and articulate former players who can provide analysis of the NFL without having to hire the Warren Sapp's of the world (and by the Warren Sapp's of the world I am specifically thinking of Ray Lewis and Keyshawn Johnson at the moment)
That clip of him facemasking Rice reminded me of how much I hated him as a player. Was it Clifton of the Packers he knocked out for a year with a brutal block on an interception return far away from the play. Just desserts.
Sox and Rocks said:
Q rating matters more than quality of analysis. It's pretty straightforward.
I get this, too, but I have a hard time believing Warren Sapp has a high Q rating, but maybe I'm just in denial.JimBoSox9 said:
Marciano490 said:
I thought it was the Eagles where this happened. But, whatever ......it was a nasty cheap shot that cemented him on my "asshole" list.
gryoung said:
Nah, Clifton on the Packers:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBpEIRaGq2U[/youtube]
Sox and Rocks said:
I think it's because he seems to have a good time on the set and is entertaining even though he doesn't provide a hint of analysis or information.
But he's still better in every way than Ray Lewis, Michael Irvin, Marshall Faulk, and Terry Bradshaw.
Soxfan in Fla said:
He is hated in the East Bay from his time in Oakland, both in Alameda and by the Raider Nation as a whole. Supposedly he treated the old timers who hang around the team (guys like Willie Brown, Jim Otto and George Atkinson) like shit.
Agree that Irvin is solid - entertaining and knowledgeable.
Also, re: Sapp...
"570 Arrested in Super Bowl Sting Operation"
http://apathappears.org/570-arrested-super-bowl-sting-operation/
Also, re: Sapp...
"570 Arrested in Super Bowl Sting Operation"
http://apathappears.org/570-arrested-super-bowl-sting-operation/
I'm a Deion guy. I think Irvin sucks but am predisposed to dislike him after watching him push off on NYG db's for about 100 of his career catches. Deion interacting with players is always good TV. For my money he's the only guy on any of the NFL channels that could fit in with Shaq, Chuck and the crew.
As for Sapp, he's a horse's ass and won't be missed. As big of an a-hole as he seems to be I figure the NFL network was waiting for an opportunity to can his ass. Too bad Kenny Powers can't take credit for getting him canned.
As for Sapp, he's a horse's ass and won't be missed. As big of an a-hole as he seems to be I figure the NFL network was waiting for an opportunity to can his ass. Too bad Kenny Powers can't take credit for getting him canned.
