Week 10 Game Thread

Marciano490

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The penalty was like getting a ticket going 28 in a 25. Yes, you broke the letter and the spirit of the law and it feels absurd, but you were technically speeding.
 

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Honest question- how many times have you seen a QB take a knee (two, actually) after scrambling around with no defender around him? I don’t mean TB12 or Manning going to the ground to avoid a hit, I mean like QB us trying to make a play then just gives up even though he’s not under immediate pressure.

I think a more fair representation is that Graham clears the OL guy, sees TH on his knees with no Eagles around him, hasn’t heard a whistle and slides down towards him to touch him down. And you can add in that TH is indeed appearing to get up (watch his left leg).

No idea if it’s within the rules but it would have been great if the zebras penalized TH for taunting or excessive celebration and had the penalties offset with a replayed down. Although dead ball foul vs live ball wouldn’t really let that happen.
I grant you that it's not normal. But every now and then abnormal things happen in the game. I can fully understand WHY Graham did it. But it is still true that Heinicke gave himself up and then Graham took three steps and dove at him. Didn't crush him, but he did hit him while he was down and that's always going to get called. Sucks for the Eagles for sure, but that's the way it goes.
 

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Yawn. Here is my party line, copied from another site: "The Super Bowl was clearly refereed very loosely. It was that way from the first drive to the last. The league had been hammered all year for refs deciding games and clearly the crew wanted to minimize their presence. Anyone who wants to find "that (non-hold/non-PI/whatever) was a penalty all year long!!!" can find plenty of material. But it was refereed consistently for both sides and it was a masterpiece of a game. Tom Brady played his greatest SB and the game hinged on great plays that were well designed. Stop whining."
In solidarity with your earlier post, the Pats didn't lose that Super Bowl because of the refs. They lost it because their defense was horrendous. They probably also should’ve lost the AFCCG but for the Jags imploding (and Myles Jack being down).
 

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The QB took a knee. There’s no judgment aspect as to whether he is giving a himself up, taking a knee is specifically covered by rule as a dead ball. Even if for some reason this defender was confused and thought the ball was live, all he has to do is touch the QB. Any contact beyond that is by definition unnecessary.

Also, it’s the fucking QB. You can’t just run an extra five yards and hit the QB way after the ball is dead. You just can’t.
 

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The QB took a knee. There’s no judgment aspect as to whether he is giving a himself up, taking a knee is specifically covered by rule as a dead ball. Even if for some reason this defender was confused and thought the ball was live, all he has to do is touch the QB. Any contact beyond that is by definition unnecessary.

Also, it’s the fucking QB. You can’t just run an extra five yards and hit the QB way after the ball is dead. You just can’t.
I suppose for you this is like people arguing over laws without reading the statutes.
 

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They usually get angrier about the 2-3 kids I have crying on my bumper than the 28 mph if I am honest.
In solidarity with your earlier post, the Pats didn't lose that Super Bowl because of the refs. They lost it because their defense was horrendous. They probably also should’ve lost the AFCCG but for the Jags imploding (and Myles Jack being down).
Seriously though....Tom Brady played one of the greatest football games I have seen. He torched a good defense and he did it by squeezing passes into windows so small it was insane. He had two bad plays all game, and they were horrifically bad, but other than those two he was sublime.
 

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They usually get angrier about the 2-3 kids I have crying on my bumper than the 28 mph if I am honest.


Seriously though....Tom Brady played one of the greatest football games I have seen. He torched a good defense and he did it by squeezing passes into windows so small it was insane. He had two bad plays all game, and they were horrifically bad, but other than those two he was sublime.
Yes -- Brady was the balls in 2017, his FU year for Belichick wanting to go with Jimmy. I actually find it kind of amusing that every year he has won the MVP he's lost the SB, often because the defense let him down. It's almost like Bill was like, "Oh you think you can win it by yourself? Go ahead and try."
 

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Yes -- Brady was the balls in 2017, his FU year for Belichick wanting to go with Jimmy. I actually find it kind of amusing that every year he has won the MVP he's lost the SB, often because the defense let him down. It's almost like Bill was like, "Oh you think you can win it by yourself? Go ahead and try."
Dude took a defense ranked in the 30s by DVOA to the Super Bowl twice.