Week 14 Game Thread
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I feel like there've been more interesting onside kick techniques this season - Caleb Sturgis' rabona a couple of weeks back, and this nice bit of trickery by Feely.
Nope. One timeout left, no benefit of the two min warning.
No matter. Have to go onsides again anyway.
No matter. Have to go onsides again anyway.
Carey really wanted to say "The ball was already in the air, you fucking idiot." But he's a pro's pro.
Was at a restaurant in Chicago a few weeks ago advertising the "Bear Down" combo, which was discounted the Fri after a Bears win.SeoulSoxFan said:
Went back this week. Now on the same style orange and blue sign they advertise a "Bears special" every Friday.
People didn't expect the Bears to be this bad...
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No, I get it. You look at Romo's numbers and they aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be. I just like needling Romo every chance I get.
Actually that one was more about getting a dig on Cutler/Cutlet than anything else, just relying on the old Romo meme. Romo needs someone to really step down and take over the whole late game failure mantle from him. Until that happens, I think he's stuck with it, sadly for him.
It's not so much the numbers - though numbers do help his cause - but the narrative that he's a choker. He has led 23 4th quarter comebacks and 27 game-winning drives in his career. His failures to increase those numbers were partially due to the risks that he takes, but also because of the fact that the team's success was always 100% dependent on him (which necessitated some of those risks). Everyone is bound to fail at some point, and increasing the level of competition also increases the likelihood of failure.
This is not to say that Romo hasn't made some boneheaded mistakes throughout his career. Far from it. I've thrown my fair share of criticism in his direction and, truth be told, I was 100% against him taking over the starting role when he did because I feared his penchant for taking stupid risks. But the idea that he's a choker because he couldn't handle a slick ball and because he was forced throughout his entire career to put the team on his shoulders, is stale. Put almost anyone in that situation and the probability is that they experience just as much, if not more, failure.
But like you said, he needs to do his part to dispel the myth. The likelihood, however, is that if the Cowboys do win a playoff game or two, people will dismiss Romo's contribution and say that Murray and the offensive line bailed him out. When, in reality, that's what he and the team have needed all along to experience any amount of success. The court of public opinion is funny that way, I guess.
This is not to say that Romo hasn't made some boneheaded mistakes throughout his career. Far from it. I've thrown my fair share of criticism in his direction and, truth be told, I was 100% against him taking over the starting role when he did because I feared his penchant for taking stupid risks. But the idea that he's a choker because he couldn't handle a slick ball and because he was forced throughout his entire career to put the team on his shoulders, is stale. Put almost anyone in that situation and the probability is that they experience just as much, if not more, failure.
But like you said, he needs to do his part to dispel the myth. The likelihood, however, is that if the Cowboys do win a playoff game or two, people will dismiss Romo's contribution and say that Murray and the offensive line bailed him out. When, in reality, that's what he and the team have needed all along to experience any amount of success. The court of public opinion is funny that way, I guess.
Great stuff, as always. I think that Mercilus / Foles play shows that QBs need a minimum of athleticism to effectively run the read option. You can play Foles halfway because you can recover to tackle him, but try that with Kaepernick and he's gone.Mark Schofield said:
Yeah, that wouldn't fly against Kap. Interested to see if Bortles has any success with it on Sunday.
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Bosoxen said:
100% agree. Romo has been a top-10 QB for years, sometimes even a top-5, in terms of passer ability and production. He's been Brett Favre with many fewer mistakes. His is one of the most unfortunate, and least deserved, media-driven stereotypes out there.
A majority of teams in the league wish they could trade their QB for Tony Romo. Calling him a choker is like saying the Pats are "just cheaters". It's preference for a trope, despite all evidence to the contrary, because it's fun to be able to throw shit like that at a wall. It's lazy, one of the worst common instincts sports fans have, on top of being just plain incorrect. Drives me nuts.
There's a lot of to what you say but Romo also seemed to be almost the only top QB who would have a certain kind of game, not quite a choke but maybe a reckless waste. He'd have the Cowboys solidly ahead mid game and keep on trying risky throws resulting in turnovers and a Cowboy loss. No other top QB seemed to have these sorts of games.MentalDisabldLst said:
And that's precisely why he's not above reproach. But what you're describing has nothing to do with the narrative of Romo as a "choker". Those types of games happened because the Cowboys refused to run the ball, thus forcing Romo to keep the chains moving by any means possible. Imagine the grief he'd have gotten if in those games he went safe on every throw and they still lost. Might as well go down doing what you do, right?Rough Carrigan said:
The narrative of "Romo the choker" was borne out of his fumbled snap against Seattle in the 2006 playoffs (which the entire football world agreed was bullshit because of that stupid K ball). The narrative gained a ton of traction with the last minute interception against the Giants in the 2007 playoffs. It's been downhill ever since.
I completely agree with MDL that the Romo bashing is lazy. I get it, it's funny (hell, I may have done it once or twice when drunk), but when you really analyze it, the guy has been dealt a really shitty hand. I've said before that if I were to list the issues that have plagued the Cowboys for the past 10 years, Romo would be item #638. But he's the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, so he's about the easiest target there is.
Didn't the Romo choke narrative start when he botched the hold on the FG try against Seattle in the playoffs the year before?
As a resident of the NY metro area, I just want to thank the NFL for its sage decision allowing both the Giants-Titans and the Jets-Viking games to kick-off at 1pm, Aside from playing one another, I can't remember many times these teams played at the same time
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Yup. Sanchez versus Seattle secondary could be fun and we might see some classic Sanchez.axx said:
The NYC market routinely gets pimped out of good games, a lot of times, the late "national" game . I'm glad common sense and capitalism prevailed. It will be interesting to see how the 1 pm head-to-head ratings battle shakes out. Giants in a romp?
The really shameful thing is that I did read your post. Wow I'm dumb. I blame my kids for keeping me up late last night watching that 3 hour piece of garbage known as transformers 4.Bosoxen said:
Well, it's about to start. SNF is absolute watch, of course; the 1:25 SF game is a one and a half eyes on it; and coming up, Colts because of Luck is a watch. Even Steelers - Bengals is keep an eye on because of possible tiebreakers. Good Sunday lineup.
I thought you were just talking matchups. Another loss for the Dolphins would be quite nice. Amazing how people still continue to dismiss them.Al Zarilla said:
