Week 8 Pats @Fins

CFB_Rules

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Got it. But then why wouldn’t a ref make sure to blow the whistle immediately when forward progress is stopped?

I’m not disagreeing, just think the logistics of it are pretty dumb.
There's processing time between recognizing when forward progress is stopped and getting air in the whistle.
 

Zedia

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Did I have the number wrong? I thought that was 13 lined up deep as effectively a safety pre-snap.
I just assumed Jack was in man because he followed the guy in motion. So Jon shouldve taken the other guy. But I don’t really know what I’m taking about, so who knows.
 

Tim Salmon

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If the runner is still going forward, the ball isn't dead. The moment his forward motion is stopped, the ball is dead.
Understood how the rule works, but how do they determine when forward motion is stopped if the whistle doesn't blow and his legs are still churning? If the runner lunges forward for an extra yard there instead of fumbling before the whistle blows, do the refs move the ball back to the first spot where forward progress was paused?
 

Mystic Merlin

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Understood how the rule works, but how do they determine when forward motion is stopped if the whistle doesn't blow and his legs are still churning? If the runner lunges forward for an extra yard there instead of fumbling before the whistle blows, do they refs move the ball back to the first spot where forward progress was paused?
Theoretically. Emphasis on ‘theoretically’
 

8slim

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If a runner stepped out of bounds and then fumbled, nobody here would have any issue with the fact that the fumble doesn't count regardless or when the whistle was blown.

Forward progress is the same deal.
Sure but it’s not the same thing is it? Stepping out of bounds is reviewable and binary. “Forward progress” seems pretty open to interpretation.
 

Dr. Gonzo

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Understood how the rule works, but how do they determine when forward motion is stopped if the whistle doesn't blow and his legs are still churning? If the runner lunges forward for an extra yard there instead of fumbling before the whistle blows, do the refs move the ball back to the first spot where forward progress was paused?
They guess
 

PC Drunken Friar

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Understood how the rule works, but how do they determine when forward motion is stopped if the whistle doesn't blow and his legs are still churning? If the runner lunges forward for an extra yard there instead of fumbling before the whistle blows, do the refs move the ball back to the first spot where forward progress was paused?
That call is made pretty frequently that the progress has stopped. It usually benefits the runner, but it is what it is.
 

radsoxfan

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If a runner stepped out of bounds and then fumbled, nobody here would have any issue with the fact that the fumble doesn't count regardless or when the whistle was blown.

Forward progress is the same deal.
Not disagreeing (or saying it should have been a fumble), but aren't the refs instructed to blow the whistle immediately once they think forward progress is stopped?

Is there some reason they wouldn't blow it dead ASAP once that decision is made? They just forgot?
 

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Hit JuJu for taunting over a dude while he broke up a duck. lol. This is what it’s come to.