What's a Sean O'Sullivan?

[DennyDoyle'sBoil]

So, for those of us that don't fully understand minor league transactions, why the DFA? Is he out of options? And if he is, then recalling him to the 40 in 10 days doesn't help because he would have to stay up, right? So I assume he needs to be put through waivers either way?

Anyway, who comes up? Swihart? Castillo? Hernandez?

 

[lexrageorge]

So, for those of us that don't fully understand minor league transactions, why the DFA? Is he out of options? And if he is, then recalling him to the 40 in 10 days doesn't help because he would have to stay up, right? So I assume he needs to be put through waivers either way?

Anyway, who comes up? Swihart? Castillo? Hernandez?

He made his first MLB appearance in 2009, so he's long been out of options. See:

http://www.soxprospects.com/40man.htm

He will be exposed to waivers in order to be sent to the minors; he has to be placed on waivers within the first 7 days of the DFA.

 

[Rasputin]

With the off days it looks like they won't need a fifth starter again till the 26th, which would give Erod and Kelly just 1 more start in AAA to get right. Otherwise, who do we see next, Cuevas?

They seem to want Rodriguez to fix something, get his legs stronger or whatever, so my guess is Kelly gets one more rehab start then comes back.

 

[Mugsy's Jock]

Love this quote from Farrell, searching for something nice to say about Sean O'Sullivan:

“He’s a dependable guy, you know what you’re gonna get,” Farrell said.

Truer words were never spoke.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/49184/red-sox-designate-sean-osullivan-for-assignment

[fwiw, O'Sullivan does make very nice comments about enjoying his time with the Red Sox, and hoping he can go to Pawtucket and work his way back up.]

 

[Lose Remerswaal]

With a DFA they have 10 days to figure out what to do with him, and he can be recalled within that period I think. So if neither Kelly nor Rodriguez looks ready, and they felt O'Sullivan was the best option for the 26th, the could recind the DFA on the 24th.

I don't think you can recall a guy who is DFA'd, it's not like a "limbo" place you can park an extra man. You've got to trade him or waive him.

 

[lexrageorge]

I don't think you can recall a guy who is DFA'd, it's not like a "limbo" place you can park an extra man. You've got to trade him or waive him.

A DFA can be rescinded; the Sox did this a couple of years back with a player after one of their regulars go hurt.

However, in order to option the player to the minors, you have to put them on waivers within 7 days. The waivers are irrevocable, so you do risk losing the player when you do that. But the Sox still have a few days before they have to do that.

 

[Stitch01]

Rodriguez knee is still sore and he's going to miss his next rehab start, so O'Sullivan will be up for a bit. Not sure when we will see Rodriguez, but seems like we will be at least into June.

 

[joe dokes]

Rodriguez knee is still sore and he's going to miss his next rehab start, so O'Sullivan will be up for a bit. Not sure when we will see Rodriguez, but seems like we will be at least into June.

Unless someone else gets hurt, I don't see O'Sullivan coming back anytime soon.
Kelly will probably starts Saturday, after Porcello, Price and Wright go today and tomorrow. Off day Thursday. Buchholz Friday, Kelly Saturday, Porcello Sunday on normal rest, off-day Monday, Price Tuesday (with an extra day), wright Wednesday (same).

Am I missing something?

 

[Lose Remerswaal]

Rodriguez knee is still sore and he's going to miss his next rehab start, so O'Sullivan will be up for a bit. Not sure when we will see Rodriguez, but seems like we will be at least into June.

Unless someone else gets hurt, I don't see O'Sullivan coming back anytime soon.
Kelly will probably starts Saturday, after Porcello, Price and Wright go today and tomorrow. Off day Thursday. Buchholz Friday, Kelly Saturday, Porcello Sunday on normal rest, off-day Monday, Price Tuesday (with an extra day), wright Wednesday (same).

Am I missing something?

No.

Unless I misunderstand the DFA rules (always possible), O'Sullivan can't come back until (if) he clears waivers, which is still a few days away.

 

[joe dokes]

No.

Unless I misunderstand the DFA rules (always possible), O'Sullivan can't come back until (if) he clears waivers, which is still a few days away.

Regardless of the rules, Kelly appears to be ready. I understand why O'JAG got the starts he did (he's expendable cannon fodder, his AAA "competition" still has to practice throwing strikes), but it would make zero sense for him to get another unless someone else gets hurt.

 

[Stitch01]

Didn't realize Kelly was back my bad

 

[joe dokes]

Didn't realize Kelly was back my bad

I dont think it's official.....just seems likely given his successful AAA start yesterday and the need on Saturday.

 

[DennyDoyle'sBoil]

No.

Unless I misunderstand the DFA rules (always possible), O'Sullivan can't come back until (if) he clears waivers, which is still a few days away.

I do think it's correct that a DFA can be rescinded if it is done within 10 days. But the reason it would rarely happen in a case like this one is that if you rescind the DFA you have to add him back to the 25 man roster, since the only way he can be sent down is to be optioned and clear waivers within 7 days. So, effectively, when you have a guy with no options and you DFA him the only reason you'd rescind I guess is if you have a spot suddenly on the 25-man within the first 7 days that you didn't expect and he's the best choice to fill it -- which is unlikely for a guy you just DFA'd. However . . . .

The Red Sox get a 1-man roster expansion for tomorrow. If they've announced who they are bringing up, I haven't seen it, and I assume that it would be a pitcher. O'Sullivan would be on 2 days rest, but he might be useful in a doubleheader. Could they, tomorrow, rescind the DFA, add him to the active roster using the 26th spot, and then DFA him again on Wednesday night?

 

[Cesar Crespo]

I'll throw a name out there though I doubt we'd see him this soon, but I doubt it's all that far off with the way he's pitching in Portland. Aaron Wilkerson. 44ip, 51k, 15bb and a WHIP of 1.00 this season, and he had a pretty decent 40ip in Portland last year too. He's pitching far better than anyone else outside of Joe Kelly.

 

[Buzzkill Pauley]

I'll throw a name out there though I doubt we'd see him this soon, but I doubt it's all that far off with the way he's pitching in Portland. Aaron Wilkerson. 44ip, 51k, 15bb and a WHIP of 1.00 this season, and he had a pretty decent 40ip in Portland last year too. He's pitching far better than anyone else outside of Joe Kelly.

You know who else was doing that, before he was called up?

Sean O'Sullivan

Kelly on 5/21, and until that day the Sox can enjoy both Hernandez and their 8-man bullpen.

 

[Cesar Crespo]

You know who else was doing that, before he was called up?

Sean O'Sullivan

Kelly on 5/21, and until that day the Sox can enjoy both Hernandez and their 8-man bullpen.

Yeah, that's what makes sense this time. I'm just saying the next time there is a need for your 8th-10 SP on the depth chart to make a start, it could be Aaron Wilkerson. It's probably a few months off realistically, but he'll find himself in the Henry Owens/Johnson/Elias group. At least assuming one of those guys doesn't separate himself from the group. Right now, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be Joe Kelly by default.

 

[Darnell's Son]

Cuzitt broke down all the roster moves from Monday, from O'Sullivan's DFA to Benintendi's promotion and everything in between (13 moves when it was all said and done) at the .com.

Here's an explanation of the DFA procedure.

And then here's a link to our glossary entry on the waiver procedure. The Sox will likely attempt to pass him through optional assignment waivers in the hopes that he can be placed back on the PawSox roster.

 

[mwonow]

Great post by Cuz - thanks for sharing!

And fwiw, this kind of stuff would be easier to find if recent .com posts appeared on the Red Sox page, the way recent ITP posts appear on BBtL...