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As Semper stated, Maher’s long was 63. This is in a dome; for the lead in a playoff game. Punting was the bad move. Curious what the win index/percentage says.
 

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As Semper stated, Maher’s long was 63. This is in a dome; for the lead in a playoff game. Punting was the bad move. Curious what the win index/percentage says.
In the second half, the Rams defense held the Lions to a FG, a punt after one first down, and a three and out. I can't blame McVay for trusting his defense over his kicker making a 61 yarder there.
 
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Worse than putting them both into comas.
True, of course I think there is room in the rules to say... hey, launching yourself helmet first is an ejection in all circumstances, it's there to protect you not for you to use as a weapon.
Use your damn arms to tackle
 

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Didn't realize at the time... the guy who blew out Higbee's knee is Kerby Joseph... same guy who blew out TJ Hockenson's knee in the same way.
Here’s what he had to say on Twitter/X:

ALL SERIOUSNESS…. THIS GAME WE PLAY IS VERY DANGEROUS…. I’m praying for bro and his family I don’t have no intention to hurt no body and or harm their career I been a mf dog since I came out my mama womb and nun of y’all on here gone take that away from me
#GODBLESS
 

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In the second half, the Rams defense held the Lions to a FG, a punt after 1 first down, and a three and out. I can't blame McVay for trusting his defense over his kicker making a 61 yarder there.
Yeah, I guess the logic goes like this:

If he misses, you MUST stop the Lions immediately. You can't even give up a single first down, because then they're immediately in FG range to make it a 4-point game. And in the best-case scenario, they're going to punt and bury you near your own end zone.

If you punt, the Lions get the ball with 4:07 left in lousy field position. You've still got a timeout and the 2-minute warning to work with. Even if you give up a first down, you still have a chance to get the ball back in a reasonable spot.

I don't know what the percentages say -- I suspect if you think Maher has a 50-50 shot of hitting the FG, you might still go for it. But as stated earlier, they watched him in warmups and knew what was realistic.
 

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That was in 2019. This season his longest FG was 54 yards, and he was 3-7 on FGs 50+ yards.
To be fair, Maher was 8-10 from 59-59 last year and 1-1 on 60+ FGs too. So you can't say 2019 was the last time he was long because that's not accurate.

The flipside, Maher did miss 5 XPs last playoffs and it's a miracle he's still in the NFL. But the Rams should have kicked anyway. Take the chance, you can get a lead. Or go for it.

Punting was truly dumb and embarrassing.
 

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Yeah, I guess the logic goes like this:

If he misses, you MUST stop the Lions immediately. You can't even give up a single first down, because then they're immediately in FG range to make it a 4-point game. And in the best-case scenario, they're going to punt and bury you near your own end zone.

If you punt, the Lions get the ball with 4:07 left in lousy field position. You've still got a timeout and the 2-minute warning to work with. Even if you give up a first down, you still have a chance to get the ball back in a reasonable spot.

I don't know what the percentages say -- I suspect if you think Maher has a 50-50 shot of hitting the FG, you might still go for it. But as stated earlier, they watched him in warmups and knew what was realistic.
The timeout situation meant the Lions were 2 first downs away from ending it so I don’t think field position after a missed FG or turnover on downs matter. They just needed to get the ball back.

Not sure what WPA says but I think FG or go for it were better choices.
 

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To be fair, Maher was 8-10 from 59-59 last year and 1-1 on 60+ FGs too. So you can't say 2019 was the last time he was long because that's not accurate.

The flipside, Maher did miss 5 XPs last playoffs and it's a miracle he's still in the NFL. But the Rams should have kicked anyway. Take the chance, you can get a lead. Or go for it.

Punting was truly dumb and embarrassing.
That was in Dallas. Placekicking isn't just a matter of the kicker, it's the whole operation--blocking, long snapper, holder, kicker. For whatever reason, the Rams haven't been good at that all year. But their defense had been successful in stopping Goff and the Lions in the second half of the game. Maybe they would have been better off trying to convert the fourth and 14, but the only dumb decision would have been to expect the shakiest part of their team--the kicking game--to come through in that situation.

If they had any faith in him, they might have been better off throwing short of the sticks on third down to give Maher a shorter FG attempt (54/55) or make the fourth down attempt for the first down easier, but they should have gotten a flag for the jersey pull on Puka's route on that play so I can't fault them for that play call since it would have been successful if the ref did his job.
 

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I would love to see the GB run continue, but them getting destroyed by SF would certainly further show why Dallas would rather stay in the locker room for playoff games.

I am anxious to see how Lafleur/Love will fair against the SF Defense.
 

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That was in Dallas. Placekicking isn't just a matter of the kicker, it's the whole operation--blocking, long snapper, holder, kicker. For whatever reason, the Rams haven't been good at that all year. But their defense had been successful in stopping Goff and the Lions in the second half of the game. Maybe they would have been better off trying to convert the fourth and 14, but the only dumb decision would have been to expect the shakiest part of their team--the kicking game--to come through in that situation.

If they had any faith in him, they might have been better off throwing short of the sticks on third down to give Maher a shorter FG attempt (54/55) or make the fourth down attempt for the first down easier, but they should have gotten a flag for the jersey pull on Puka's route on that play so I can't fault them for that play call since it would have been successful if the ref did his job.
I’m usually a proponent of going for it, or going for points, but I agree with you here. It really seemed like the Lions O was sputtering and the Rams had figured out how to stop them.

55 yard FG? Sure, give it a whirl. But 61? That seemed ripe for one of those kicks that veers 20 yards off course from the start.

The complaint should be about the Rams holding and getting themselves into that spot to begin with.
 

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Well all I know is this: Buffalo sure has lots of experience dealing with snow. They'll have it figured out.
 

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Had a similar thought. What would it have been like yesterday?
Today's accuweather forecast:

WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 1 PM
Lake-effect snow and intense squalls, accumulating an additional 3-6 inches; cold; there can be whiteout conditions, dangerous travel and power outages
4 pm: SNOW
5 pm: SNOW
6 pm: SNOW

All with wind chill near 0.

Not sure how any of this is better.
 

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Maybe should just play the game with no fans.
That would seem obvious. How can fans pack that stadium? People are going to be falling everywhere.

Delaying the game was a bad call. Not the easiest decision but the weather forecast indicated the snow was going to continue and it was going to stay very very cold. This is gonna be fun to watch but I do hope the fans are safe.
 

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Delaying the game was a bad call. Not the easiest decision but the weather forecast indicated the snow was going to continue and it was going to stay very very cold. This is gonna be fun to watch but I do hope the fans are safe.
And we literally posted about it in this thread when that was announced. If we could figure it out...
 

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As mentioned, supposed to be not quite as cold in Buffalo, not as much snow or bad wind and wind gusts, so overall not quite as bad today. Still a bitch of a day and one I’d be leery about venturing out in if I lived there, but a lot of those fans are half crazy, right?

Win it for Kelly, Thomas, Reed, Lofton and Levy. Tasker too. Tim Russert.
 

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It's a good thing they moved it huh?
I was in Buffalo all weekend for my son’s (partially outdoor) hockey tournament that was ultimately canceled on Sunday. We were stuck in the hotel Saturday night through this am with the travel ban. Honestly it seemed worse today than it was yesterday, but it can be deceiving if you fall just outside of one of the snow bands. We snuck out at 6am and getting to the highway was pretty tough, but once we were on 90 it wasn’t too bad. Glad to be out of there and almost home.
 

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As mentioned, supposed to be not quite as cold in Buffalo, not as much snow or bad wind and wind gusts, so overall not quite as bad today. Still a bitch of a day and one I’d be leery about venturing out in if I lived there, but a lot of those fans are half crazy, right?

Win it for Kelly, Thomas, Reed, Lofton and Levy. Tasker too. Tim Russert.
Not Chris Berman?

Also 3/4 crazy
 

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They probably have no snow in the Bills game today. Orchard Park is out of the band until late tonight. I’d it does snow it’ll be really pony stuff and not impact the game at all, which is good.