Yeah, but is it more probable than not that he was generally aware?But he said he was aware of the situation. If that's the trigger, then he's cut today right?
Yeah, but is it more probable than not that he was generally aware?But he said he was aware of the situation. If that's the trigger, then he's cut today right?
He refused the breath test, so nobody had the BAC until the blood came back. You should have kinda had a clue though, being passed out without the car being even in Park. This dude was hammered.Did ANYONE know how BAC until a few days ago? I'm assuming he got a breath test at the scene and they drew blood after and they waited for those results
So BB probably really didn't know how badly he was impaired
ExactlyYeah, I don't think the BAC level changes things.
We all knew he was passed out behind the wheel. I'm assuming the Patriots knew as well.
Yeah I'm guessing that Bill answering the BAC question truthfully as opposed to telling the guy to FOAD is one of those rare times where he decided answering probably makes things a little easier on the team in the press, even though the distinction wasn't material to their decision.Yeah, I don't think the BAC level changes things.
We all knew he was passed out behind the wheel. I'm assuming the Patriots knew as well.
Yeah, the four press conference questions really hurt prep time this week.Bill (in whom we trust) must really think this guy is worth it. Otherwise why deal with all the distractions? Bill doesn't like distractions.
Floyd, who was arrested in Scottsdale, Arizona after being found asleep behind the wheel of his running car, plead guilty on Friday and was sentenced to 120 days in jail, according to court details released by The City of Scottsdale Court. He will only have to serve 24 days behind bars, according to Johnathan Roy of Fox 10 in Arizona, with the remaining 96 days of his sentence to be served under house arrest.
Six other charges against Floyd were dropped.
The receiver will also have to pay over $5,000 in fines, serve 30 hours of community service and go through alcohol screenings as part of his punishment, according to the court.
Seems like he'd easily be done with all this come training camp time. I assume they can transfer the alcohol screenings to MA from AZ.Floyd pleads guilty, sentenced to 120 days, but 96 of those will be under house arrest.
The league will hand down a suspension, so it's not quite accurate to say his problems will be behind him by training camp, even if you believe he will remain on the straight and narrow going forward.Seems like he'd easily be done with all this come training camp time. I assume they can transfer the alcohol screenings to MA from AZ.
Guy just feels like a good system fit and probably won't cost very much.
It's his first under the CBA (his previous was in college). It should be one game.The league will hand down a suspension, so it's not quite accurate to say his problems will be behind him by training camp, even if you believe he will remain on the straight and narrow going forward.
Does the formula for substance abuse offenses apply when the player is convicted of a crime? I'm fine with a one-game suspension, but I'm surprised that's all Floyd is going to get for an incident that resulted in actual jail time.It's his first under the CBA (his previous was in college). It should be one game.
They do need another WR with Amendola likely gone, but I think it should be someone else in that mold, who can back up Edelman if need be. Floyd doesn't give you that.As to depth and his fit, unless Amendola takes getting cut and coming back on a cheap deal, he's gone. Barring relying on a draft pick or expecting Lucien to make a jump, they currently have three WRs unless we want to see Slater running go routes again.
(Let's also not forget that Edelman is a constant injury concern. He takes a ton of hits and could go the Welker route pretty quickly.)
I think there's room for both. There's a high chance that they won't be carrying 3 QBs next year and other positions will change as to how many roster spots they take up. Barring that, I think if Edelman goes down, Hogan could move into a reasonable facsimile or even Lewis could split out wide.They do need another WR with Amendola likely gone, but I think it should be someone else in that mold, who can back up Edelman if need be. Floyd doesn't give you that.
Based on the inactives in the playoffs when everyone was healthy, it's pretty clear there is not room for both.I think there's room for both.
There's plenty of room to carry a fifth WR and the roster composition next season will not be identical to what it was this season. Easy spot - Brandon Bolden is a FA. If they don't bring him back, his ST replacement can easily be a WR capable of playing slot, be it a vet or a rookie. Bolden had one carry this year. His replacement need not be a RB. They have guys on the practice squad if they have an injury situation that would likely provide just as much at RB as Bolden does.Based on the inactives in the playoffs when everyone was healthy, it's pretty clear there is not room for both.
Yeah, man, I'm not talking about the fact that he's white, but good call. I'm talking about the fact that before he came to NE he played 50% of his snaps out of the slot. He can fill in if Edelman goes down. You're not going to match Edelman's exact skill set to any reasonable degree with a bench player. Hogan can slide over. That he was used as a deep receiver this season doesn't mean he can't go back to the slot. He's a versatile player.Having a guy who can credibly backup Edelman - be it Amendola, or someone else - is a much bigger game day roster need than Floyd – who is behind Hogan and Mitchell (at least) on the depth chart outside.
Hogan is not a "reasonable facsimile" of Edelman, in any way. Aside from some very superficial similarities, they are very different players with very different skill sets.
Floyd can 'want' anything he likes, but if he thinks he's going to match his salary he - and you - are delusional. Playing time is great, but if he goes to a shit team with a bad QB, it's not helping his cause going forward to get another contract. Even without the DUI he was going to have a hard time getting a decent contract next season and was a prime candidate for a one year, make good deal. The DUI obviously reduces his locations for that.Floyd is not going to be "4th-5th WR" cheap; he's going to want something closer to his previous salaries and/or playing time. The Patriots cannot provide either.
Amendola is almost certainly gone, unless he's willing to come back pretty cheap. That's not really up for debate. Cutting him saves over $6.4M. He played for $1.45M this season. He;s certainly not getting a raise on that. Thinking he would come back for less is relying on his loyalty. That may very well end up the case, but I'm not sure it's something to bank on.And since the Patriots DO need someone behind Edelman, that $ and PT is going to go to Amendola or someone very similar to Edelman/Amendola in skill set.
Mike Williams? Yeah, if you're expecting the Pats to use a top 15 overall pick on a backup to Edelman, I'm not sure what to tell you. That's not happening, even if Edelman gets hit by a bus tomorrow.The Clemson WR whose name escapes me right now? That's a guy you could see filling the backup Edelman role.
There's pretty much no such thing as a bad schematic fit for the Patriots offense.Floyd, aside from his other issues, is not a good schematic fit. Also, he presumably doesn't play special teams, so there is even less use for him on the game day roster.
There's plenty of room to carry a fifth WR and the roster composition next season will not be identical to what it was this season. Easy spot - Brandon Bolden is a FA. If they don't bring him back, his ST replacement can easily be a WR capable of playing slot, be it a vet or a rookie. Bolden had one carry this year. His replacement need not be a RB. They have guys on the practice squad if they have an injury situation that would likely provide just as much at RB as Bolden does.
Yeah, man, I'm not talking about the fact that he's white, but good call. I'm talking about the fact that before he came to NE he played 50% of his snaps out of the slot. He can fill in if Edelman goes down. You're not going to match Edelman's exact skill set to any reasonable degree with a bench player. Hogan can slide over. That he was used as a deep receiver this season doesn't mean he can't go back to the slot. He's a versatile player.
I'm also not sure it's a given that Floyd wouldn't be able to unseat Hogan on the outside given more time with the playbook and in practice learning the offense.
Floyd can 'want' anything he likes, but if he thinks he's going to match his salary he - and you - are delusional. Playing time is great, but if he goes to a shit team with a bad QB, it's not helping his cause going forward to get another contract. Even without the DUI he was going to have a hard time getting a decent contract next season and was a prime candidate for a one year, make good deal. The DUI obviously reduces his locations for that.
Amendola is almost certainly gone, unless he's willing to come back pretty cheap. That's not really up for debate. Cutting him saves over $6.4M. He played for $1.45M this season. He;s certainly not getting a raise on that. Thinking he would come back for less is relying on his loyalty. That may very well end up the case, but I'm not sure it's something to bank on.
Mike Williams? Yeah, if you're expecting the Pats to use a top 15 overall pick on a backup to Edelman, I'm not sure what to tell you. That's not happening, even if Edelman gets hit by a bus tomorrow.
There's pretty much no such thing as a bad schematic fit for the Patriots offense.
Floyd may very well end up getting a better offer or opportunity, but to say there's not room for him because of scheme or roster composition is just not accurate. There's all kinds of looks you could give with Floyd and Mitchell wide, Hogan and Edelman in the slots and Gronk on the line.
Amendola and Floyd? Not both, no, because I expect them to get about the same short $, but I don't expect Amendola back and they can make other arrangements for Edelman insurance - again, yes, Hogan sliding over with a rookie or vet that can contribute on ST.
What are his prima donna red flags? All I heard from Cardinal players after he got cut were great things about him.I think I'd pass on Floyd. He has a suspension coming. If he wasn't thought to be good enough to start the Super Bowl over guys already on the roster I'm not sure we need the juggling roster situation with a guy who has character and prima donna red flags. Especially when we might get a comp pick. Bill has had him around for six weeks so obviously has better info but that's my thought from the outside looking in.
1) He's talking about Hunter Renfrow, not Mike WilliamsThere's plenty of room to carry a fifth WR and the roster composition next season will not be identical to what it was this season. Easy spot - Brandon Bolden is a FA. If they don't bring him back, his ST replacement can easily be a WR capable of playing slot, be it a vet or a rookie. Bolden had one carry this year. His replacement need not be a RB. They have guys on the practice squad if they have an injury situation that would likely provide just as much at RB as Bolden does.
Yeah, man, I'm not talking about the fact that he's white, but good call. I'm talking about the fact that before he came to NE he played 50% of his snaps out of the slot. He can fill in if Edelman goes down. You're not going to match Edelman's exact skill set to any reasonable degree with a bench player. Hogan can slide over. That he was used as a deep receiver this season doesn't mean he can't go back to the slot. He's a versatile player.
I'm also not sure it's a given that Floyd wouldn't be able to unseat Hogan on the outside given more time with the playbook and in practice learning the offense.
Floyd can 'want' anything he likes, but if he thinks he's going to match his salary he - and you - are delusional. Playing time is great, but if he goes to a shit team with a bad QB, it's not helping his cause going forward to get another contract. Even without the DUI he was going to have a hard time getting a decent contract next season and was a prime candidate for a one year, make good deal. The DUI obviously reduces his locations for that.
Amendola is almost certainly gone, unless he's willing to come back pretty cheap. That's not really up for debate. Cutting him saves over $6.4M. He played for $1.45M this season. He;s certainly not getting a raise on that. Thinking he would come back for less is relying on his loyalty. That may very well end up the case, but I'm not sure it's something to bank on.
Mike Williams? Yeah, if you're expecting the Pats to use a top 15 overall pick on a backup to Edelman, I'm not sure what to tell you. That's not happening, even if Edelman gets hit by a bus tomorrow.
There's pretty much no such thing as a bad schematic fit for the Patriots offense.
Floyd may very well end up getting a better offer or opportunity, but to say there's not room for him because of scheme or roster composition is just not accurate. There's all kinds of looks you could give with Floyd and Mitchell wide, Hogan and Edelman in the slots and Gronk on the line.
Amendola and Floyd? Not both, no, because I expect them to get about the same short $, but I don't expect Amendola back and they can make other arrangements for Edelman insurance - again, yes, Hogan sliding over with a rookie or vet that can contribute on ST.
I thought that was his reputation in the draft, when coming out of ND, but maybe it was just the alcohol stuff.What are his prima donna red flags? All I heard from Cardinal players after he got cut were great things about him.
I could watch this forever.Fair winds and following seas, Floyd.
I'm my mind, I now see this as Matt Harvey chasing Edelman until his ex-girlfriend steps in to block him.Fair winds and following seas, Floyd.
LINK: http://www.tmz.com/2017/06/16/michael-floyd-tests-positive-alcohol-house-arrest/He tested positive for alcohol during his house arrest. Could now face jail time.
(per TMZ)
A rep for the Scottsdale City Court confirms ... Floyd's alcohol monitoring system flagged 5 events during June 11th and 12th. At least three of the events were described to us as "high alcohol tests."
That would be a lot of kombucha..044 and .055? Is that even possible?
Sure. Probably the equivalent of 2 or 3 drinks for a guy his size..044 and .055? Is that even possible?
Yeah. Little more than half the legal limit. Still a shitload of kombucha, tho.Yeah, isn't that below the legal limit? I realize it's zero tolerance, but that's not a high BAC.
Now THAT'S zero tolerance! Or just about.Ooops I thought the legal limit was .008.