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Teams must manage their roster to ensure that no more than one star player is unavailable for the same game.

Teams must insure that star players are available for national television and in-season tournament games.

Teams must maintain a balance between the number of one-game absences for a star player in home games and road games -- with a preference for those absences to happen in home games.

Teams must refrain from any long-term shutdown -- or near shutdown -- when a star player stops participating in games or plays in a materially reduced role in circumstances affecting the integrity of the game.

Teams must insure that healthy players resting for a game are present and visible to fans.

The NBA will provide several scenarios for excused absences on missed games -- including those involving regular-season back-to-back scenarios, sources said. For example, the NBA will allow pre-approved designated back-to-back allowances for players who are 35 years old on opening night or have career workloads of 34,000 regular-season minutes or 1,000 regular season/playoff games combined, sources said.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38380166/sources-nba-likely-pass-tougher-rules-resting-stars
 

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That resting policy seems like a clusterfuck waiting to happen. Who’s “hurt” and who’s “resting”?

Who decides if a star is refusing to play vs being shutdown. Who decides who’s a “star”? What if they take the tip-off and then sub out after a minute?

It’s all just nonsense. If teams aren’t trying to win, that’s up to them.
 

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That resting policy seems like a clusterfuck waiting to happen. Who’s “hurt” and who’s “resting”?

Who decides if a star is refusing to play vs being shutdown. Who decides who’s a “star”? What if they take the tip-off and then sub out after a minute?

It’s all just nonsense. If teams aren’t trying to win, that’s up to them.
I was thinking the same thing. And asked myself, "Do you need 3 game IR list for players who are injured or sit out?" and I said, "no". but not sure how you manage the "gaming" of that rule
 

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That resting policy seems like a clusterfuck waiting to happen. Who’s “hurt” and who’s “resting”?

Who decides if a star is refusing to play vs being shutdown. Who decides who’s a “star”? What if they take the tip-off and then sub out after a minute?

It’s all just nonsense. If teams aren’t trying to win, that’s up to them.
It seems like there will be a clear definition on who qualifies as a "star" for this purpose. No player "refuses to play" NBA games except for rare bizarre cases as these are always team decisions. I'd say the "tip and sit" is a complete non-factor as that won't occur in this setting. The only valid question I see here is who is injured and who is resting. Obv the system can be gamed here and there but if there is a pattern then address it then.
 

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I was thinking the same thing. And asked myself, "Do you need 3 game IR list for players who are injured or sit out?" and I said, "no". but not sure how you manage the "gaming" of that rule
If two stars come down sick, does that mean one of them has to play or do they need some sort of Dr's note?
 

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I had the same reaction. He was cooked when he played in Boston.
Another guy who should really hate Steph Curry. Let's line em up....Tristan, Omer Asik, Howard, Drummond, Greg Monroe, Hibbert, Mozgov, etc
 

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What a scumbag. And so much for money being an incentive -- could lose up to $65 million or so if he's out of the league as he should be.

Also a hit for the Rockets as he's a good player; just looked and had a 4.1 WAR last year, second on the team only to Sengun.
 

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What a scumbag. And so much for money being an incentive -- could lose up to $65 million or so if he's out of the league as he should be.

Also a hit for the Rockets as he's a good player; just looked and had a 4.1 WAR last year, second on the team only to Sengun.
He's the very definition of a stat stuffer on a bad team. With his lack of defense, Ime would have buried him on the pine.

Rocket's saved themselves 65MM shekels & a mouthy malcontent from the bench.
 

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How do I hate KPJ, let me count the ways…

He's the very definition of a stat stuffer on a bad team. With his lack of defense, Ime would have buried him on the pine.

Rocket's saved themselves 65MM shekels & a mouthy malcontent from the bench.
I hated the deal when they signed him and was praying that they’d exile him to Brooklyn in exchange for a top 55 protected #2 because I hated rooting for him and preferred rooting to hate him. Here’s to hoping for a speedy expulsion and a long sentence.

As to the Westbrook narrative, that's not new and was around at the time the trade happened.
No, it was around after Morey told the Rockets that he wanted to retire to spend more time with his family. Because he wanted a release to move on to a new team. know non-Rockets fans like to be fooled by Morey, but he’s extremely reliable,le when it comes to blaming everyone else for his mistakes.
 
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It's kind of funny that Giannis' offseason started with his "winning isn't everything" press conference, and now he's saying he'll leave Milwaukee if there's a better chance of winning somewhere else.
 

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In other news, I’m working on developing a cure for cancer so I can be a trillionaire and retire next year.

Where the fuck would they be planning on trading him?
The story was that the team that took him would cut him immediately, so it's a paper transaction that would just be helping out the Rockets. Still a PR nightmare but can probably be navigated and the League might even help take the heat off.

"Teams that consider taking on Porter’s salary via trade would have to keep in mind the optics of taking on a player under felony assault and strangulation charges. They would also have to weigh whether they’re receiving enough draft picks for essentially an expiring contract who they would likely waive immediately upon trade."
 

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The story was that the team that took him would cut him immediately, so it's a paper transaction that would just be helping out the Rockets. Still a PR nightmare but can probably be navigated and the League might even help take the heat off.

"Teams that consider taking on Porter’s salary via trade would have to keep in mind the optics of taking on a player under felony assault and strangulation charges. They would also have to weigh whether they’re receiving enough draft picks for essentially an expiring contract who they would likely waive immediately upon trade."
Yeah, I get it, just seems insane that someone would agree to do it. Such a PR nightmare.
 

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On paper he's owed 3/$47 mil plus a club option

But...

They knew this was a risk: his 2024 and 2025 salaries are mostly non-guaranteed. So really, it is just this year's $15.8 mil that anyone is on the hook for. And let's face it--he's going to be suspended and that isn't getting paid either.

I agree the optics are bad for anyone acquiring him; hard to see anyone bothering, I guess you can't count out OKC in part because they have a roster spot issue---so trading a player they are likely to cut anyway for KPT (who will be on a restricted list or cut) and a pick might actually make some sense for them. And they do not have the most aggressive local media and fan base. Still, ick.

Well, looking at their salaries, not sure they are fit either--over cap and no obvious dumps to get to KPJ's salary.
 

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I guess the idea would be for a rebuilder to take KPJ, immediately cut him & stretch the $16MM for Rocket Draft compensation.

OKC is no longer the NBA dumping ground, they have ascended to 6-10 range in the WC.

Maybe PDX, ex-Dame, will take on that role? Nurkic for KPJ + 2nds would work

The problem is every NBA team is dreaming at the moment, it's in-season business, when reality sinks in.
 
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Yeah, I get it, just seems insane that someone would agree to do it. Such a PR nightmare.
If he never suits up and it's part of the transaction to get him out of the league, I don't think it will be a big deal.

Nor should it be: no one is remotely considering having him play.
 

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Well...they aren't wrong.

Too soon?
The AI generator went on to add: "We apologize for our error. Suggesting that a dead human does not have utility in many industrial processes was inaccurate and encourages wasteful attitudes to precious biosludge."
 

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The AI generator went on to add: "We apologize for our error. Suggesting that a dead human does not have utility in many industrial processes was inaccurate and encourages wasteful attitudes to precious biosludge."
well played...that is right around the corner
 

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There were rumors Miami was in on him to backfill for Herro in a Dame trade....that is a place he could be a bit scarier.

I know Philly has a lot of pieces, and some year I may be proven wrong for always believing they will fade in the end. But until it happens I simply am not believing in that team, oubre or no
 

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One of the underrated aspect of the Sixers approach to team building is how often they’ve reached for the talented underachievers over the years. I’m shocked that they never rostered Christian Wood or Boogie Cousins to be honest.
 

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One of the underrated aspect of the Sixers approach to team building is how often they’ve reached for the talented underachievers over the years. I’m shocked that they never rostered Christian Wood or Boogie Cousins to be honest.
Yes, I don't know that a normal team would have given Joel Embiid so many chances to succeed after his repeated playoff failures.
 

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Butler and Good Ben Simmons are now Kelly Oubre Jr.
...is that better or worse than turning the 3rd overall pick into Jahlil Okafor! Or turning the number one overall pick into an OKC 1st, a second and Jonathan Simmons.
 

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Ripping the Sixer's recent trades, draft moves, GM incompetency, playoff failures, etc is one of those simple pleasures in life, much like an animal-style double-double, but without all the calories...