General Offseason Thread.
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Giannis inked a 3 year/$186 million extension
https://x.com/wojespn/status/1716584391063814289?s=46&t=IVL2VrlFgLlpc3mjGGto8Q
https://x.com/wojespn/status/1716584391063814289?s=46&t=IVL2VrlFgLlpc3mjGGto8Q
We can already call the Lillard deal a win for the Bucks, then. Book is closed - no matter what happens on the court.
Looks like it. At the same time, the NBA is so weird these days that deals like this can also make movement easier. I don't think GA will demand a trade unless things get really weird this season, but this really doesn't affect his ability to do so.
Yup. Exact same thing happened with Holiday in late 2020. He was traded to the Bucks in November, and Giannis signed an extension in December. Winning the title 7 months later was icing on the cake.
So Giannis will use that player option again as leverage to demand whatever superstar is most movable in 3 years to come to MIL
probably. But if you are small market, non-destination city Milwaukee then getting three additional years of the best/second best player in the world is worth any cost you are allowed to pay. Nothing else matters as much as that
I am going to enjoy their relative lack of payroll flexibility as their roster slowly becomes Giannis, Dame, and a bunch of guys who won a fan contest.
But seriously glad the NBAs rules have led to this. Desirable outcome, rules designed for it, and it happens. Buy Adam Silver a nice bottle of booze.
But seriously glad the NBAs rules have led to this. Desirable outcome, rules designed for it, and it happens. Buy Adam Silver a nice bottle of booze.
Yeah, at the end of the day, a large % of stars are getting into their early 30s on the team that drafted them, which is a good outcome for the league.
Even when they do demand trades, the extension rules are letting the team get a good return and rebuild more easily. Compare KD walking for nothing to what Portland got for Dame.
“The New York Knicks are willing to offer a package that includes three key players, with Julius Randle, R.J. Barrett, Evan Fournier and Mitchell Robinson all available in exchange for Joel Embiid, according to sources. A trio from that group would be paired with two or three first-round picks.
Joel Embiid loves Philly. But he could love it from a distance if the James Harden saga ends poorly.”
https://x.com/pompeyonsixers/status/1716743557875220674?s=46&t=IVL2VrlFgLlpc3mjGGto8Q
Joel Embiid loves Philly. But he could love it from a distance if the James Harden saga ends poorly.”
https://x.com/pompeyonsixers/status/1716743557875220674?s=46&t=IVL2VrlFgLlpc3mjGGto8Q
That is a legitimately terrible trade package. I think Embiid is really overrated but I would be shocked if he couldn’t fetch a shit ton more than that
Lol. Do *any* of the four guys listed have positive trade value? MitchRob, I guess? If Morey’s playing hardball over Harden, hard to imagine he isn’t laughing uncontrollably at the idea of trading Embiid for that pupu platter (even with all the picks presumably thrown in).
Doesn't look like Harden will be playing anytime soon: https://nypost.com/2023/10/23/sports/james-harden-wont-play-for-sixers-for-quite-some-time/
A couple of my buddies are Sixers fans, and they say Pompey's "reporting" is an absolute joke. Nobody takes him seriously when he tries to break news.
I’d expect Embiid to the Knicks to play out like Dame to the Heat. The Knicks wouldn’t come close to the best offer.
Agreed. Obviously that deal would likely include a ton of picks and swaps. And Knicks have extra picks, but they are flawed.
Dallas 2024 (top 10 protected) . Might convert as a pick in the teens in 24 or 25, but a chance it becomes a 2nd in 25 (west is so loaded)
Detroit 2024 (top 18 protected). Will likely be a #1 in the teens between now and 2027
Washington 2024 (top 10 protected). Probably 50/50 this becomes a 2027 second, as Wizards look awful for the next few years
Milwaukee 2025. Likely pick in the 20s
Then add a bunch of Knicks picks, which are likely in the 20s if Embid gets there.
If Philly were forced to deal Embid, they should be embracing the Tank, not trying to hang on to a package like the Knicks that could keep them in the top 10 in the standings in the East, but leave them as a complete non contender
He's gonna be 15-20 pounds heavier when he returns.
Maybe fatten him up for a few more weeks, and then let the Clippers have him
In fairness, that proposed Knicks deal does strike me as embracing the tank. They could almost certainly do better picks-wise (as you lay out) but in terms of their remaining roster, I think they’d plummet solidly to the bottom of the league (I guess barring a leap into full-fledged stardom by Tyrese Maxey).
Yeah, the funniest thing about the reporting was "two or three first-round picks". I'm sure that's going to get the deal done.
They also may flip those pieces—Randle, Robinson, possibly Barrett depending on their view—rather than keep them. I agree that keeping those three and Maxey makes little sense
This is what i brought up before. How do you police cautious behavior ?
I'd be shocked if this injury were not legit. Nobody's practicing 'load management' on opening night. Everybody wants to start on a good note.
Nah, he's shaking in his boots at the prospect of being guarded by Steph (after Wiggs and Klay attempt to deal with Book and KD).
Unless I missed something, Beal is legit sore and nobody aside from one poster here is alleging anything sneaky.
From SI on 10/22
From SI on 10/22
No idea, but what's the point of holding out a top-tier player in the opener? It's not like PHX is looking to tank this season, and there's no way Beal wants a night off before he's even played a game. I know you're big on conspiracy theories, but sometimes things are what they're said to be.
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If "sore" is all it takes to get around the new policy, then the new policy is meaningless. We'll see if Silver lets that happen. He certainly doesn't want to become a story on opening night, but in a few weeks...
I agree that if players and teams are openly defying the league's stance there are likely to be consequences, especially early on.
However if Beal is just taking his first night on his new NBA team off for load management reasons, they have done a great job giving cover by holding him out of practice and even casting doubt on his availability a few days ago. My question is how far people expect the league to go in terms of interrogation. My sense is that if teams establish a fact pattern of some sort of issue prior to a game, its probably fine even if its a minor thing.
On the other hand, my guess is that the league will look very closely at stuff like star players taking a night off while visiting Charlotte in January without any prior notice of an injury.
That said, maybe Beal wants to ease into his Suns career and an opening night prime time slot isn't ideal for him or the team. Its certainly possible.
I really really hate these new mandatory playing rules, very curious to see how they play out but I hope they blow up in the league's face somehow. Clearly the issue is that the season is at least a month too long, but instead of trying to fix that, they just want guys to play more of the games, no matter the long-term repercussions.
Yup, well done by Harden. He is an Operation Shutdown expert at this point.
With some guys (like Durant last year), the team knows they'll try hard if put in the lineup. But with Harden.....oh man, you KNOW that he will not try, and will probably actively hurt the team.
Love you, James.
With the Sixers opening in Milwaukee and Halloween right around the corner, I guess there was too much potential for James to show up tomorrow dressed like Yi Jianlian’s chair?
Have you seen the Doc Rivers interview? He said that over the first half of the year James was fully bought in to being the PG the team needed (he was and he was phenomenal, even defensively for him) then when he was snubbed for the All-Star game it all changed. Paraphrasing Doc, "He asked if he could play more with the second unit, (laughs) and I knew exactly what that meant."