I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make.this is nonsense. saying something has zero predictive value has an actual meaning
I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make.this is nonsense. saying something has zero predictive value has an actual meaning
This made me break out in hives.View: https://twitter.com/NElGHT_/status/1722629930704642282
Sadly, every C's fan knew how that sequence was destined to end.
I think this is a fair critique and I am interested in the type of player you would want to trade Brown for.Obv all small samples but JB's 8-13 vs that thing the Wizards call defense skews his overall shooting numbers this year. He's 10-38 aside from that night of shooting in an open gym. I don't like how he fits w Porzingis, I never really liked how he fit w Tatum but he got plenty of rhythm touches when it was only the two of them. He was my biggest concern staring the year and remains so.
Who really knows, tbh. He did play one of the all-time terrible games and then got the mega contract so I feel like he's definitely pressing and, IMO, the guy's shot gets wonky under pressure e.g. missing important late-game free throws. Hopefully, it's just a rut. The block on Maxey was great to see, at least. It was interesting that he didn't get the inbound pass when he flashed open on the last play. Lack of trust from Jrue, Embiid's presence, or maybe that wasn't the play call? Maybe a mixture of all those.At this point, it really feels like Jaylen is listening to his critics and try to prove them wrong. That's less than ideal.
I’ve wondered about this in the context of what happens when Al or KP is unavailable. Rather than forcing Kornet to play 20-25 minutes, I think they try to play small ball with Stevens/Brissett and Tatum as the other big. Should work just fine against second unit bigs and maybe even against starting bigs to save a bit of wear and tear on Jrue.4. Bench. CJM needs to continue working in Stevens/Brissett, they can help with energy/defense which the C's could have used last night. After watching Jrue somewhat disrupt Embiid, I'm starting to change my thoughts on the 3rd Center approach.
Maybe Stevens/Brissett can provide pesky defense against BIGs in limited minutes? CJM may start experimenting with that.
Wins are better, but growth can come from losses.
Watching live I actually wanted the backcourt violation when the clock hit 17, anything better than a turnover to fast break the other way which came to fruition.View: https://twitter.com/NElGHT_/status/1722629930704642282
Sadly, every C's fan knew how that sequence was destined to end.
It was pretty obvious live. All one can really say is that missed call fit with the overall referee performance last night, and much of the Celtics in the second and third quarters as wellEmbiid OB with 4 seconds left. An unfortunate miss by a ref staring right at the play.
https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022300159
The violation would occur at :16 and it looks like the officials call this like those in the NFL call delay of game penalties at :00 one one-thousand.Watching live I actually wanted the backcourt violation when the clock hit 17, anything better than a turnover to fast break the other way which came to fruition.
Yup if you are within one stride of halfcourt you are typically clear. Unless you get a "look at me" ref which can happen often...The violation would occur at :16 and it looks like the officials call this like those in the NFL call delay of game penalties at :00 one one-thousand.
I think it occurs when the clock hits :15.The violation would occur at :16 and it looks like the officials call this like those in the NFL call delay of game penalties at :00 one one-thousand.
Looks OB for sureIt was pretty obvious live. All one can really say is that missed call fit with the overall referee performance last night, and much of the Celtics in the second and third quarters as well
We've been over this a ton: they don't show decimals, so the clock starts at 24.0, and when it shows 16, that's actually 16.0-16.9. The violation happens as soon as it shows 15, because that means 15.9.The violation would occur at :16 and it looks like the officials call this like those in the NFL call delay of game penalties at :00 one one-thousand.
Yeah I knew it had to do with the decimal. When I saw 17 I thought the number was 16 but you're correct.We've been over this a ton: they don't show decimals, so the clock starts at 24.0, and when it shows 16, that's actually 16.0-16.9. The violation happens as soon as it shows 15, because that means 15.9.
You can verify this by watching the inbounds: the clock starts at 24, but changes to 23 as soon as someone touches the ball, because it's going from 24.0 to 23.9.
Nothing to do with officials giving a buffer: if they called a violation when it showed 16, they would be only giving 7.1 seconds to cross half-court.
Yup, this used to throw me a lot as a kid, couldn't figure out why refs were ALWAYS missing the call lol.Yeah I knew it had to do with the decimal. When I saw 17 I thought the number was 16 but you're correct.
I was going to respond but was busy and I haven't put a whole lot of thought into it bc we are so top-heavy loaded and you don't want to move Jaylen for 2nd unit role players...which I really what we need by the deadline. Like if you had asked me over the past two years when I proposed moving Jaylen I would have said packages involving guys like Kristaps or Jrue!I think this is a fair critique and I am interested in the type of player you would want to trade Brown for.
My biggest concern is something that @PedroKsBambino touched on in the game thread last night and that's that this team just doesn't seem to have championship discipline. I don't know if it's more Jaylen or Jayson but it seems like it's both of them. I don't think anyone has ever said "they don't beat themselves" when talking about this core.
I've looked at it fairly closely and I just don't see a ton of options that make sense.I was going to respond but was busy and I haven't put a whole lot of thought into it bc we are so top-heavy loaded and you don't want to move Jaylen for 2nd unit role players...which I really what we need by the deadline. Like if you had asked me over the past two years when I proposed moving Jaylen I would have said packages involving guys like Kristaps or Jrue!
Good because Ingram is too soft/injured. OG or Bridges (+filler for a BIG) would be great fits here.I've looked at it fairly closely and I just don't see a ton of options that make sense.
The 3 names that I've come up with are Mikal Bridges, Brandon Ingram and OG Anunoby. I think the Ingram idea would work but I believe New Orleans wants to cut payroll, not add to it...
Problem with OG is that he is an FA this summer, so would have to be a S&T, which probably isn't workable.Good because Ingram is too soft/injured. OG or Bridges (+filler for a BIG) would be great fits here.
Jaylen, an Alpha Wing, signed for multiple years, would make sense for the Nets/Raptors.
Yeah there just aren't many matches out there for what we need. Maybe to a lottery team for an OG-type, who can seemlessly play a role in our rotation plus a Top-3 pick to plug into the rotation while on his rookie deal? Options are slim.Problem with OG is that he is an FA this summer, so would have to be a S&T, which probably isn't workable.
We've acquired two of them in the last 140 days.Where are the Shuttlesworths of yesteryear?
Right. You can also verify it by watching the shot clock when it starts showing tenths of a second: it goes 7 (pause), 6 (pause), 5 (pause), 4.9-4.8-4.7-....We've been over this a ton: they don't show decimals, so the clock starts at 24.0, and when it shows 16, that's actually 16.0-16.9. The violation happens as soon as it shows 15, because that means 15.9.
You can verify this by watching the inbounds: the clock starts at 24, but changes to 23 as soon as someone touches the ball, because it's going from 24.0 to 23.9.
Nothing to do with officials giving a buffer: if they called a violation when it showed 16, they would be only giving 7.1 seconds to cross half-court.
Jalen Williams and some Thunder 1sts? Obviously the Thunder would have to add salary but that's one option. Josh Giddey can't shoot so I don't think he's as good of a target. Same issue with Scottie Barnes.Yeah there just aren't many matches out there for what we need. Maybe to a lottery team for an OG-type, who can seemlessly play a role in our rotation plus a Top-3 pick to plug into the rotation while on his rookie deal? Options are slim.
Barnes looks to be taking a major leap with his shooting recently. He's hit 4 and 5 threes in two of his last 4 games and made 21-27 FT's during that time. Softer shot, tighter rotation. It's clear he's out the time in working with coaching on this.Jalen Williams and some Thunder 1sts? Obviously the Thunder would have to add salary but that's one option. Josh Giddey can't shoot so I don't think he's as good of a target. Same issue with Scottie Barnes.
Maybe Orlando wants to get more established star power and would give up Franz and another piece?
Pains me to even type this but Desmond Bane?
San Antonio has Vassell and Keldon Johnson but I can't imagine they want to give away picks and speed up their timeline that much.
It's seriously really fucking hard to find players that make sense before even getting into what the team is looking for. Because of the roster the Celtics currently have, the player pretty much has to be a forward. It can't be someone too ball dominant because the Celtics have Tatum/White/Holiday....has to be someone who can shoot to keep the spacing. Basically has to be a top 75 player.
Remove OG because of the S&T implications (that also removes Siakam)...
So I believe there are 5 players that fit? Mikal Bridges, Brandon Ingram, Jalen Williams and Franz Wagner. If anyone comes up with anymore, feel free to add it here
The guy I'd be looking at in a possible future Jaylen trade is Bam.I think this is a fair critique and I am interested in the type of player you would want to trade Brown for.
My biggest concern is something that @PedroKsBambino touched on in the game thread last night and that's that this team just doesn't seem to have championship discipline. I don't know if it's more Jaylen or Jayson but it seems like it's both of them. I don't think anyone has ever said "they don't beat themselves" when talking about this core.
So I believe there are 5 players that fit? Mikal Bridges, Brandon Ingram, Jalen Williams and Franz Wagner. If anyone comes up with anymore, feel free to add it here
Jaren Jackson Jr? I agree with the thinking around Bam, but I can't even visualize him outside of a Heat uniform. JJJ is like the next most similar player, so that's where my head has gone in the past. If Morant totally flames out, I could see the makings of a deal there— Memphis is really short on shot creation at the moment— although there'd have to be a ton of salary coming along with him. Would set us up for a post-Al future, in any case.The guy I'd be looking at in a possible future Jaylen trade is Bam.
Would probably need Butler to hit the wall, and Bam to ask out of a great market to go play with Tatum.
But that's the dream target for me.
It was pretty visible too. Was basically the same guys around both Brown and Tatum (PP, Kornet, Hauser), and it all worked way better with Tatum.
View: https://twitter.com/SeanGrandePBP/status/1723203782526238755It was pretty visible too. Was basically the same guys around both Brown and Tatum (PP, Kornet, Hauser), and it all worked way better with Tatum.
I thought PP had a really good game on both ends. The Nets don't have anyone who can shoot over you in the post, and he's very good at staying up into guys on the perimeter.
Kornet is also playing with more and more force now.
Joe doesn't seem particularly afraid to give the PP/Hauser/Kornet group extended minutes this year, regardless of immediate results, which is encouraging.
It's really bizarre, because there should be a non-Tatum combination of KP, Jrue, White and Brown that doesn't hemorrhage points, but they just can't find it yet.Barnes is untouchable untouchable.
View: https://twitter.com/SeanGrandePBP/status/1723203782526238755
CTG tells the same story
This is like the perfect one-sentence description of Jaylen Brown.With Jaylen I think you can say that, as talented as he is, there's some inefficiency and redundancy there that isn't helpful.
Am I reading that tweet correctly that the Celtics are much better with Brown OFF the court?Barnes is untouchable untouchable.
View: https://twitter.com/SeanGrandePBP/status/1723203782526238755
CTG tells the same story
Not only that, he would be the worst player on the Celtics (which is of course not true). I think there's probably some weird SSS going on, especially given how the C's have blown out some teams and had a few horrible quarters.Am I reading that tweet correctly that the Celtics are much better with Brown OFF the court?
It’s usually the case, but when he’s out, Tatum is almost always in. So his on/off numbers will always be extreme, especially as he’s not a guy who will raise the play of other guys.Am I reading that tweet correctly that the Celtics are much better with Brown OFF the court?
Sure, that's one way to look at these numbers.Am I reading that tweet correctly that the Celtics are much better with Brown OFF the court?
And one of those 4 guys is Payton Pritchard who has had some abominable outings. Yeah, I really don’t think this matters at this point in the seasonSo far, only four guys have had positive on/off’s , so you’ll definitely see it correct somewhat.
That’s just because he’s stapled to Tatum, their net with him and Tatum in is +23.3. Pritchard has been mostly horrible lol. Which leads to the next point.And one of those 4 guys is Payton Pritchard who has had some abominable outings. Yeah, I really don’t think this matters at this point in the season
This is what really needs to be sorted out. If the starters are going to play the first and last 6 minutes of each half, how best to split up the Top 6 For the remaining 24 minutes.I think we need to stagger Tatum and Holiday, as they are clearly the two best creators on the team.