No doubt - but by the standard DCL set, he really tried to fight through itLooked like Lallana went down very easily.
He did go down easily, but without relitigating the whole Calvert-Lewin thing, Holgate did grab and hold him.No doubt - but by the standard DCL set, he really tried to fight through it
His last couple of games have been poor compared to his form the rest of the season.Rooney is about 80% to get sent off if he isn't subbed.
And here comes the sub.Rooney is about 80% to get sent off if he isn't subbed.
I remember our Red friends here not liking Karius that much.Karius has to come collect that ball on the cross
But Holgate doesn't seem to lose it until the verbal altercation. Lip readers on Twitter are claiming Firmino said: CE TA LOUCO? CE TA LOUCO? FILHO DA PUTA,” which translates as: “Are you crazy? Are you crazy? Son of a bitch!”What was the timing, though? Did Firmino say something to Holgate BEFORE Holgate pushed him over the advertising boards? Which might have at least explained (not justified) why Holgate did that? Because if it was after - I'm not condoning the use of any racist language, etc., but Holgate's push was way out of line, so maybe Firmino retaliated?
From what I saw and what I have read it occurred after the shove. Regardless, racial slurs are unacceptable. Of course, to your point, shoving a player into the stands is also unacceptable.What was the timing, though? Did Firmino say something to Holgate BEFORE Holgate pushed him over the advertising boards? Which might have at least explained (not justified) why Holgate did that? Because if it was after - I'm not condoning the use of any racist language, etc., but Holgate's push was way out of line, so maybe Firmino retaliated?
Yes. Holgate can be suspended after the fact for violent conduct, even if there was no foul or booking during the game. Ashley Young is currently on a three-game suspension for throwing an elbow at a Southampton defender which wasn't penalized during the game.From what I saw and what I have read it occurred after the shove. Regardless, racial slurs are unacceptable. Of course, to your point, shoving a player into the stands is also unacceptable.
If Firmino said something out of line he should be punished. There is no doubt that Holgate was out of line and should have been punished. Can he be punished now?
I'm an Everton fan as y'all know and after watching it again today it should have been straight red. If I were watching a replay of some Championship match between two teams I didn't know I would have said "this guy should be sent off." There was no instigating incident that I can see (other than possibly Holgate incurring the penalty, which would be really childish on Holgate's part), it wasn't remotely related to the play ongoing at the time, and Firmino could have been badly hurt.But Holgate doesn't seem to lose it until the verbal altercation. Lip readers on Twitter are claiming Firmino said: CE TA LOUCO? CE TA LOUCO? FILHO DA PUTA,” which translates as: “Are you crazy? Are you crazy? Son of a bitch!”
http://www.empireofthekop.com/2018/01/05/what-firmino-actually-said-to-holgate-despite-racist-allegation/
The Echo has a good outline on the procedure the FA follows in cases like this.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/roberto-firmino-mason-holgate--14120511
Given that outlined procedure I can't see how Firmino would be facing any punishment in the event of conflicting statements.
The other thing to consider is that Liverpool players have been subjected to racist abuse this year - so I imagine the Club will be pressing Firmino to own up to it if he did, indeed racially abuse Holgate.
Still don't understand why it wasn't a yellow card on Holgate in the first place.