2015 Boston College Football: Daz'd and Confused

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RedOctober3829 said:
Anyone with any insight as to why BC is playing 2 FCS opponents?  Seems really odd for an ACC team to do that.
New Mexico State backed out late and was replaced with Howard.
 

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Would've had 3 but Michigan wouldn't play us.
Looking forward to getting Addazio's career record against FBS opponents over .500 this year. Or probably not.

But at least recruiting's going well. Right?

And when I troll your putrid team relentlessly this year, you can look back to this as why.
 

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It's funny for you to say that and then watch as Michigan fans collectively shit their pants at Jug because Harbaugh isn't delivering a national championship in year 1 as expected.  I would troll you if Michigan wins less than 8 games, as everyone in the Michigan thread predicted, but, then again, I can take a light-hearted ribbing and I don't really care too much.
 

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It's funny for you to say that and then watch as Michigan fans collectively shit their pants because Harbaugh isn't delivering a national championship in year 1 as expected.  
 
Except nobody's doing that. The best part about this is that unless you believe in the power of the supernatural, you all know that Michigan's return to prominence and BC's continued irrelevance are equally inevitable. There really aren't that many variables involved here. Head coaching, recruiting, talent development, nearby talent, facilities, education, stadium, exposure, fan interest, equipment deals. Which of these are going to ensure Michigan's failure? Which of these are the reasons you can be confident of BC's future? Really, it's just "Michigan SUX!1!"
 
You're basically a bunch of Rays fans in wife beaters chanting 1918 and high-fiving each other.
 

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You do realize you're the only reason anybody in this thread is bringing up Michigan, right? BC doesn't, and shouldn't, care about Michigan. And we don't. We do enjoy ruffling your feathers though and getting responses like that though because you're so absurdly thin skinned you can't let a mild jab go without firing off a few angry posts.

And the above post is in reference to my experience at the Jug on Thursday. From students and adults alike.
 

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You do realize you're the only reason anybody in this thread is bringing up Michigan, right? BC doesn't, and shouldn't, care about Michigan. And we don't. We do enjoy ruffling your feathers though and getting responses like that though because you're so absurdly thin skinned you can't let a mild jab go without firing off a few angry posts.
 
Nah, it's because you have a horrific inferiority complex, which is understandable. I might buy it was about enjoying ruffling my feathers if you didn't cry about me trolling your thread to the mods. As to Michigan fans shitting their collective pants over a road loss to top-25 level team, the actual Michigan fans over in the Michigan thread don't seem to reflect your narrative, nor do any of the posts in the game thread on MGoBlog, nor did the fans at the Alumni Association bar where I watched the game. But I'm sure things were different at the Jug. 
 
Your team has won 16 FBS games in the last four seasons. I wouldn't expect to add more than two or three to that total this season. Good luck against Howard, though. Fingers crossed for improving on the 29,626 home opener attendance.
 

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Whatever inferiority complex you feel BC fans have will pale in comparison to the inferiority complex that Michigan fans have towards the real winning program in Columbus, OH. This ain't 2000-2008 where BC fielded decent teams but never finished the job. BC isn't very good and we know it. But the attention we're getting from fans of another irrelevant program like Michigan is welcomed.
 
Totally irrelevant. Did you hear SportsCenter will be broadcasting from Ann Arbor next Saturday? Must be the interest in Oregon State.
 
You can watch the game on ABC.
 

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WayBackVazquez said:
 
Nah, it's because you have a horrific inferiority complex, which is understandable. I might buy it was about enjoying ruffling my feathers if you didn't cry about me trolling your thread to the mods. As to Michigan fans shitting their collective pants over a road loss to top-25 level team, the actual Michigan fans over in the Michigan thread don't seem to reflect your narrative, nor do any of the posts in the game thread on MGoBlog, nor did the fans at the Alumni Association bar where I watched the game. But I'm sure things were different at the Jug. 
 
Your team has won 16 FBS games in the last four seasons. I wouldn't expect to add more than two or three to that total this season. Good luck against Howard, though. Fingers crossed for improving on the 29,626 home opener attendance.
When did I cry to the mods?

And I'm sorry I had a different experience watching the game than you did. Now kindly take the Michigan talk to the Michigan thread where people aren't discussing BC and are discussing Michigan. Congratulations on the continued interest in your alma mater's team that is driven by one of the largest alumni bases in the world.
 

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When did I cry to the mods?

And I'm sorry I had a different experience watching the game than you did. Now kindly take the Michigan talk to the Michigan thread where people aren't discussing BC and are discussing Michigan.
 
I meant you plural. And no, I kindly won't. The thread title, and two unprovoked posts about Michigan demonstrate that there's interest in this thread about comparing the teams. Sorry. Maybe you should pink me.
 

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Then compare them. Add some substance to this thread. How does their offense match up? Is Wade as dumb as your fifth year transfer? Which kicker sucks less? Which OL is less athletic and adept at blocking? Will Michigan have more empty seats for the NW game in November like they did from the halfway point last year or will BC at the end of the year? All burning questions I'm sure you're dying to answer.
 

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Then compare them. Add some substance to this thread. How does their offense match up? Is Wade as dumb as your fifth year transfer? Which kicker sucks less? Which OL is less athletic and adept at blocking? Will Michigan have more empty seats for the NW game in November like they did from the halfway point last year or will BC at the end of the year? All burning questions I'm sure you're dying to answer.
 
I think I've already posted more of substance than most of the BC fans in this thread have, but this is part of the problem with scheduling FCS cupcakes OOC. (NMST wasn't much better, nor is Buffalo next season.) BC looked pretty awful in the first half against a below-average FCS team over which it should enjoy a significant talent advantage. The OL looked as though it will struggle to get any push against a legitimate FBS opponent once we get to October and they play one. The QB looked uncomfortable, and other than maybe Syracuse and Wake, there's likely to be trouble in the run game, forcing this kid to throw the ball.Really hard to judge the defense against an FCS team. Yes, it was the first game. Michigan lost to Appy St. in a season that ended win a bowl win over Florida. But Maine wasn't coming off an FCS championship.
 
I struggle to think of a phase or subphase of the game in which Michigan is not better. Kicker is a question mark, I suppose. The new QB made a few bad throws in a hostile environment in his first game, but looked to me like a significant upgrade over the past two years. The OL didn't allow a sack to the team that led the nation in them last year. The DL looked very impressive against the run facing a preseason Heisman candidate. Is there a single player on the Eagles roster anywhere close to the talent level of Butt or Darboh? I think most teams are going to effectively fade half the field because of Peppers. This team appears bowl-bound to me, and I expect something along the lines of a three touchdown win next week. They'll probably be sitting at 4-1 heading into the NU game, and have 7 or 8 wins headed into the bowl game.
 
Oh, and attendance-wise, seriously? BC didn't break 30,000 in its home opener. There were nowhere close to half empty seats at Michigan Stadium last year. You can keep citing your imaginary friends at the Jug and claiming "I was there," but you know they televise these games, right? In any event, the Big House will be full next week, while Alumni will struggle to break 26,000. Also, recruiting seems to be getting worse and worse, and I thought that was Dazz's decided advantage, to paraphrase the HC of a once common rival.
 

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Well, one victory in a controlled scrimmage. Looks like another victory in yet another controlled scrimmage on Saturday. When they start playing real programs in a couple of weeks I'll chime in. But in a weird way it is probably good they have an extended training camp like this. Lots of work to do. I don't follow recruiting (I probably should) but how did the team get so young like this? Was it a matter of not having 85 scholarship athletes on the roster over the last 4 years? Just seems odd that there would be so many guys on the 2 deep with virtually no experience. This will be a slog. I do think they can win 7 games though. After next week's scrimmage they need 5 more wins. No guarantees but I see possible W's in NIU, Wake, NC State, Syracuse and Virginia Tech. We'll see.
 

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WayBackVazquez said:
 
I meant you plural. And no, I kindly won't. The thread title, and two unprovoked posts about Michigan demonstrate that there's interest in this thread about comparing the teams. Sorry. Maybe you should pink me.
 
As the thread-starter and author of the title, I meant it with no snark or sarcasm. We're not Michigan and never will be, which is why I find your obsession with comparing the two a little curious. There are plenty of reasons to shit on BC without having to bring Michigan into the equation.
 

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The Allented Mr Ripley said:
As the thread-starter and author of the title, I meant it with no snark or sarcasm. We're not Michigan and never will be, which is why I find your obsession with comparing the two a little curious. There are plenty of reasons to shit on BC without having to bring Michigan into the equation.
Posts 56 and 66 brought Michigan into the equation. My post (65) was snarkless and had nothing to do with Michigan, which has never even played Howard or NMST.
 
This is, of course, how it's happened in the past as well.
 

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Thank God BC refuses to play UConn. This is a much better alternative for BC fans.[/quote

This was a last minute replacement for NMSU. And i think UConn will always have a tough time getting BC to schedule them while the president that was sued personally is still at the helm.
 

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Yeah you're right UConn's schedule was out and I'm pretty sure they aren't going to back out of a game with Army out of respect just to play BC. 
 
I would assume Leahy isn't standing in the way though. Shouldn't he be practicing what he preaches re: forgiveness? BC doesn't want to give UConn any lifelines when it comes to football. And the BC fans seem to be OK playing the New Mexico State's of the world instead of UConn so I can't imagine it will change in the near future.
 

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I'm on the record of supporting a BC/UConn series. Neither of our programs are relevant so I'd much rather play UConn than a school like Maine.
 
How dare you! Of course we're both relevant..Both programs are 2-0!
 

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Thank God BC refuses to play UConn. This is a much better alternative for BC fans.[/quote

This was a last minute replacement for NMSU. And i think UConn will always have a tough time getting BC to schedule them while the president that was sued personally is still at the helm.
Jesuits take a vow of poverty. I'd be surprised if Fr. Leahy was perturbed by being named personally in that lawsuit.

It's best for BC if they're the only P5 school in New England. The conflict with CT pols and between the fan bases just makes it easier for BC to pursue its self-interest.

Also, a BC-UConn series wouldn't make economic sense for BC unless UConn agreed to play at the Heights every year, which would be hard for them to swallow.
 

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I think most of the bad feelings were with GDF. That said, if we play one local game I would rather it not be UConn. I would prefer to play a BCS conference team if we are going FBS.

Nothing to gain for BC do play UConn.
 

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At this point in the relative lives of BC and UConn football it makes little sense for BC to put them in the schedule. From a business side if I'm BC I don't play UConn they have their 8 ACC games, their ND/Power 5 games their FCS game and one OOC game. If you are going to play a New England FBS school it would most likely be UMass. They are the state school of Mass. Which is the home of BC. I have been an advocate for the UConn game but I think that train has left the station.

In fact I don't even think the UConn guys even started a thread for the 2015 season on SOSH. How the mighty have fallen.
 

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Dave Stapleton said:
I think most of the bad feelings were with GDF. That said, if we play one local game I would rather it not be UConn. I would prefer to play a BCS conference team if we are going FBS.

Nothing to gain for BC do play UConn.
 
From a business standpoint, the ideal non-conference opponent for BC is an FBS school that BC is likely to beat (helps for bowl eligibility) and that won't ask for a reciprocal home game. A regional rival that would sell a few extra tickets would be nice, but isn't essential.
 
UConn is good enough to give BC a run for its money most years and probably wouldn't agree to play @BC every year. Not a good fit.

UMass would be ideal, but the perennial road game is probably hard for them to swallow (strictly from a pride standpoint -- BC could make it financially worth their while).
 

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after the shit show that was the Howard game, and i was playing in an old man softball tournament down the cape so wasn't there, its stime to put MassAggie back on the schedule every year, BUT either a 2-1 deal (two home to one away0 or make sure the away every other year if its 1-1 is at Gillette

i've seen enough of the Howards and MAC stable and of course the GDF Memorial 'Good For New England Game"
 

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Don't feed the troll.  
 
What he said. And WBV, you've been asked before to just ignore it. It's the BC thread, it might not bow down to almighty Michigan all the time. Let it go.
 

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I want to punch Addazio in the mouth for that turtling at the end of the half. Jesus.
 
Agree,  FSU screws up their last drive of the half with the kid stepping out of bounds, and then missing the (for him) chipshot FG,  and Daz responds by turtling with the ball almost to midfield
 

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Honestly I think the tank at the end of the half was an absolute crap decision by Daz, and ripped whatever heart the offense had out.
 
There is not another team in the country who would turtle in that situation. And in doing so Daz basically told the word, my offense sucks, I have no confidence in their ability to make a play, and I have no confidence in their ability not to do something incredibly stupid.
 

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I have to admit I wasn't paying full attention after the missed FG, are you talking about after the first down run by Willis just letting the clock run out?
 

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You're right, I guess I'm so used to it it didn't even register. I just remember having a passive thought about getting the ball to start the second half and nothing beyond that. The irony of honoring TOB during this game is pretty rich. I don't like fondly remembering Jags (and he had Matt Ryan for half of his tenure), but he would probably not have done that.
 
This game overall was just soul-crushing. Four plays over 10 yards and none over 20. No turnovers or game-changing sacks. It felt like we were on the edge of a big break the entire game up to the fumble, but in the end the most excited I got was probably over a couple punts. There were many, many parallels to last year's USC game tonight which seduced me a little bit, but ultimately these were the same old Eagles.
 

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They'll win 7 games if they can generate even a mediocre offense. The problem is they are now going to the second and third string QBs along with second string OL who are not good enough to start on this team. That is a long haul and may be to much to ask. The schedule is set up now with no BYE week til November 14th. That means they have to fix this on the fly. Not sure they can do it
 

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what a waste of a great performance by the D, Landry was a stud, even if he whiffed on Goulston in the end zone, he was in the FSU backfield all night. The sheer amount of dive plays into the line on first down made me think Joe Yukicka was back on the sidelines, Hillman was getting stuffed all night, now with Wade out what are we going to do for Offence, Single Wing?

in case any of you guys walked in past the ESPN stage and were wondering who those assholes tailgating inside the fence right behind the stage it was this guy and crew. Tried to get Lindsay and Robert Smith over for pulled pork sandwiches but their handlers got them out of Dodge before we could offer them shots of Bushmills
 

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maufman said:
 
From a business standpoint, the ideal non-conference opponent for BC is an FBS school that BC is likely to beat (helps for bowl eligibility) and that won't ask for a reciprocal home game. A regional rival that would sell a few extra tickets would be nice, but isn't essential.
 
UConn is good enough to give BC a run for its money most years and probably wouldn't agree to play @BC every year. Not a good fit.

UMass would be ideal, but the perennial road game is probably hard for them to swallow (strictly from a pride standpoint -- BC could make it financially worth their while).
UConn is @Mizzou today. That's a much bigger payday for UConn than @BC would be.

Of course, UConn has zero chance of winning the game.
 

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Wade is out for the season with a broken ankle per Pete Thamel.

I assume that means the Jeff Smith era begins. This OL better improve in a hurry.
 

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UConn is @Mizzou today. That's a much bigger payday for UConn than @BC would be.

Of course, UConn has zero chance of winning the game.
But UConn has already scored more points than BC did all night.
 

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So,  I am following on gamecast.  Did BC seriously just call a run play rather than try a Hail Mary on the last play of the Half on the Northern Illinois side of the field?   Was it at least some sort of trick play?
 

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You might think BC lost this game. 
 
Hey, the offense was going to suck even with their starting QB. And now they've lost him. But the defense appears to have a chance to be one of the best in recent history.
 
Enjoy the ride.
 

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You might think BC lost this game. 
 
Hey, the offense was going to suck even with their starting QB. And now they've lost him. But the defense appears to have a chance to be one of the best in recent history.
 
Enjoy the ride.
Agreed. This defense is just fantastic. I can't remember a BC team (maybe since Raji) that could rush 4 and have a chance.

Recruiting on the defensive side looks to have been plus the last few years, particularly the secondary.