Was (Not Wasdin) said:
Plenty of teams would be happy to schedule BC at home, but you're right about not wanting to go to Boston.
2015 Boston College Football: Daz'd and Confused
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Plenty of teams would be happy to schedule BC at home, but you're right about not wanting to go to Boston.
WayBackVazquez said:
They'd be happy to get this year's edition, of course. And probably happy to get the 2007 version, with a top-10 ranking and a bunch of future NFL guys led by Matt Ryan-that's a great team to bring in. But it is those in between teams that are good enough to win, and BC has had a few of them in the last few years, that no one wants as a designated homecoming opponent.
One other thing-BC has, I believe, the smallest Alumni Association of any school in the P5, and until very recently very New England-New York-New Jersey centered. This also adds to the lack of appeal in bringing them in as a visiting team.
I've never understood why they don't target some of the top academic schools from the other conferences-Stanford (maybe out of reach at this point), Northwestern, Cal, BYU, Vanderbilt-and get some kind of a rotating thing going with all of them. They have played almost all of them in the very recent past. I really dont need any more MACtion.
kenneycb said:
Well if the OOC schedule becomes UConn, UMass, URI (or other NE FCS team), then that 4th opponent better be a very legit p5 team every year or it is just the ugliest OOC schedule possible. ANd sadly under Bates and Daz, I expect #4 to be Buffalo or Army more often than not
I guess it all has changed because BC routinely in the 70's, 80's and 90's played Power 5 mid and upper level schools on home/home deals. (i.e. Stanford, USC, A&M, Alabama,Texas,Cal, tOSU, Michigan, Mich State, Northwestern, etc.) and they played teams like Tulane on a yearly basis. They just need to get the ACC to play 9 league games. To me that's a no brainer.
As to playing in front of potential recruits, I will give you that but the quid pro quo is that if you are going to play teams multiple times, you give each team at least one home or nearby home game in the contract.
Finally, with respect to teams coming to Boston and having to stay in Waltham, other than the West Coast teams that arrive usually on a Thursday for a Saturday game, the visiting team will fly into Boston (or any other place a road team is going) on Friday, mid day, head over to the stadium for a walk through, then head to the hotel where they are sequestered, absent maybe being taken out to a movie at a local theater. They have lights out around 10-11. The following day they are up early for a team meal and meetings, then it's off to the stadium 2 hours before game time, suit up, play the game and once the game is over and the pressers are done and everyone showers up, the buses head to the airport and they are flying back to their home campus, within 4 hours of the game ending per NCAA rules. No road team comes to any city and has much, if any, downtime to go out and hang around. Those guys are under tight control on the road. A typical road trip will have a team literally on the ground in the opposing city for about 30-32 hours. Watch the Notre Dame series on Showtime and this will prove my point. ND flies in the day before the game and flies out right after its over. That's SOP for every FBS program. The coaches sometime stay back and recruit if they have prospects in the region, but the players are long gone once the game ends.
As to playing in front of potential recruits, I will give you that but the quid pro quo is that if you are going to play teams multiple times, you give each team at least one home or nearby home game in the contract.
Finally, with respect to teams coming to Boston and having to stay in Waltham, other than the West Coast teams that arrive usually on a Thursday for a Saturday game, the visiting team will fly into Boston (or any other place a road team is going) on Friday, mid day, head over to the stadium for a walk through, then head to the hotel where they are sequestered, absent maybe being taken out to a movie at a local theater. They have lights out around 10-11. The following day they are up early for a team meal and meetings, then it's off to the stadium 2 hours before game time, suit up, play the game and once the game is over and the pressers are done and everyone showers up, the buses head to the airport and they are flying back to their home campus, within 4 hours of the game ending per NCAA rules. No road team comes to any city and has much, if any, downtime to go out and hang around. Those guys are under tight control on the road. A typical road trip will have a team literally on the ground in the opposing city for about 30-32 hours. Watch the Notre Dame series on Showtime and this will prove my point. ND flies in the day before the game and flies out right after its over. That's SOP for every FBS program. The coaches sometime stay back and recruit if they have prospects in the region, but the players are long gone once the game ends.
Actually, BC has the largest alumni association of any catholic university in the country, including Notre Dame. It has over 12,000 alums in California so why they don;t play more games out there (or here I should say) is kind of odd. They could play the Pac 12 as well as MWC schools (SD State, San Jose State) They also have a big alumni pool in Chicagoland, Florida metro DC.Was (Not Wasdin) said:
Don't look now but the current OOC schedule for 2016 is UMass (9/17) and Buffalo (10/1) with two game yet to fill. One will be UConn, maybe, and the other will be either URI, Maine or UNH. Your dreams are coming true.BigMike said:
Why is BC insisting on playing an FCS school? Even if they played UMass, Buffalo and UConn, can't they find a top 25 program for their 4th?
I found this piece about scheduling (and how difficult it is to get a good OOC opponent from earlier this year:
http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-football-schedule/2015/1/30/7948789/boston-college-football-schedule-2016-options
The TL; DR summary:
http://www.bcinterruption.com/boston-college-football-schedule/2015/1/30/7948789/boston-college-football-schedule-2016-options
The TL; DR summary:
I would jump on that BYU deal and ink them for 4 games over the next 6-7 years. Slot them in for non ND years and push The ACC to adopt a 9 game conference schedule. Get rid of the FCS and round robin UConn/UMass in a 6 year cycle of home/home/Gillette games so that one of the 3 schools cycles out of the rotation for 2 years but you get 4 FBS games in a 6 year cycle for everyone. That way you have 9 ACC schools, ND/BYU, UConn/UMass and leave a wildcard game out there for either a Power 5 or one of the Southern AAC schools (Tulane, SMU, USF, UCF) or someone from the MWC (Colorado State, San Diego State, San Jose State, Boise, etc..
Get rid of the FCS stuff, including Holy Cross.
Get rid of the FCS stuff, including Holy Cross.
berniecarbo1 said:
I am with you BYU is a tremendously appealing OOC opponent. Legitimate bottom part of the top 25 most years, fantastic stadium, clean program.
Sadly they will never drop the FCS opponent until they are forced to by rule changes to eliminate those matchups. Gotta have that free win for bowl eligibility
This defense is so good. All they need is a marginal offense and the team could be pretty good.
I thought last week's game was a shitstorm. It looks like a gold medal performance compared to this pice of crap. My god both of these teams suck.
This game, as most in recent years, will turn on special teams.
This game, as most in recent years, will turn on special teams.
Gotta have something to do with the coaching. Kid was a good recruit.
http://www.southernpigskin.com/recruiting/colton-lichtenberg-commits-to-boston-college/
http://www.southernpigskin.com/recruiting/colton-lichtenberg-commits-to-boston-college/
Amazing you say that. At the Pinstripe Bowl the Penn State fans asked the same thing when the debacle in OT occurred.4 6 3 DP said:
Unfortunately Bates gave Daz an extension I believe through 2020 so he ain't going anywhere.
I thought you were in favor of this to stop him from taking the HC job at Alabama when Saban leaves?berniecarbo1 said:
He was sniffing around high profile openings and his agent bluffed Bates into the extension.
To me this is like when Clemson told Dabo he was fired if he didn't hire Chad Morris as the OC. I thought Ryan Day was terrible and I was dead wrong. Todd Fitch is wretched and if Bates wants a legitimate program he'll tell Daz who he's hiring at OC and to stay the hell out of the way. And then leave Don Brown alone too. Which pretty much means his job is to be Sgt Slaughter and let the grownups coach.
To me this is like when Clemson told Dabo he was fired if he didn't hire Chad Morris as the OC. I thought Ryan Day was terrible and I was dead wrong. Todd Fitch is wretched and if Bates wants a legitimate program he'll tell Daz who he's hiring at OC and to stay the hell out of the way. And then leave Don Brown alone too. Which pretty much means his job is to be Sgt Slaughter and let the grownups coach.
Is there any doubt this will be a shitty hand off up the middle followed by another missed chip shot FG?
What happened? Is the game over? ESPN's gamecast has apparently frozen, and I'm not motivated enough to find it on tv. Last I saw, they had 2nd and goal from the 1 with about 50 seconds left.
In retrospect it's a miracle Wake got 3 on their possession that started with a first and goal at the BC 5-yard line.
A miracle for Wake, I mean.
A miracle for Wake, I mean.
I reserve the right to change my mind. I don't know what to say. Guess I was wrong. They should have let him go to wherever he wanted. I thought he would turn out to be a good hire and it looked that way at times in the 2 years but obviously his recruiting skills were overrated, in game calling has been exposed as pathetic.
He is a very pedestrian coach. And I'm starting to think this staff (defense excused) is very poor and not a legit FBS level.
Next week they will lose again. This season is now one of finding a quarterback going forward, and trying to get some sort of rhythm on O that they at least can score a couple of touchdowns a game. That will be a monumental challenge. I don't see many wins left on this schedule with this offense and special teams.
He is a very pedestrian coach. And I'm starting to think this staff (defense excused) is very poor and not a legit FBS level.
Next week they will lose again. This season is now one of finding a quarterback going forward, and trying to get some sort of rhythm on O that they at least can score a couple of touchdowns a game. That will be a monumental challenge. I don't see many wins left on this schedule with this offense and special teams.
Honestly it is baffling to watch this team. I don't think they know what the offense is even supposed to be anymore. We are changing QB drive to drive sometimes within drives.
There are 49 different formations, we have Flutie on the field and we have no back and 5 WR. Then we are 3 TE, We are playing straight power football, or read option, or maybe now just plain old Option football. One week 50% of the passes go deep downfield the next week we don't try to throw the ball more than about 10-12 yards downfield.
No wonder the QB's look unprepared, the people making the choices are unprepared. Good grief this team must have about 40 plays from 15 formations in the playbook, and 75% of them are running. Yet they don't seem to have One play from one formation where they know what they are doing and can rely on it when they need a play
There are 49 different formations, we have Flutie on the field and we have no back and 5 WR. Then we are 3 TE, We are playing straight power football, or read option, or maybe now just plain old Option football. One week 50% of the passes go deep downfield the next week we don't try to throw the ball more than about 10-12 yards downfield.
No wonder the QB's look unprepared, the people making the choices are unprepared. Good grief this team must have about 40 plays from 15 formations in the playbook, and 75% of them are running. Yet they don't seem to have One play from one formation where they know what they are doing and can rely on it when they need a play
I've said before I don't believe Daz prioritizes the 2 minute offense like most teams in the country do. I don't think they practice it, and when they have a chance to run it in games he refuses to because of his conservative nature.
I think that leads into what happens to this team today when they have a chance late in the game and are only able to get off 3 snaps in the final 56 seconds with the game on the line. Playing offense with urgency is against everything Daz is about. So when the ball is spotted with 27 seconds to go and they can't find a way to get 2 snaps off that is 100% on Daz.
I think that leads into what happens to this team today when they have a chance late in the game and are only able to get off 3 snaps in the final 56 seconds with the game on the line. Playing offense with urgency is against everything Daz is about. So when the ball is spotted with 27 seconds to go and they can't find a way to get 2 snaps off that is 100% on Daz.
No amount of trolling could add to or diminish the utter frustration this BC fan feels about that tire fire of a last play. It's brutal seeing a D this stout wasted because of these quarterbacks and Daz's ineptitude.