2017-18 NBA Regular Season Game/Observation Thread

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So after 14 straight wins, back to back home losses for the Rockets against the shitty LA teams, with Harden scoring 51 points in each.
Their fans/stans/supporters will point to the absence of Paul, Capela and Mbah a Moute but the Clippers are shorthanded as well. Houston, even at full strength, shouldn't yet be considered elite.
 

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Who else do you foresee being in the Lou market?
This list is suspect because it doesn't include the Celtics or the Raptors, for example but its a start. I think the 76ers could also be a player.

That said, I think the Celtics should have a leg up on most teams given the assets they control. The first question is what Danny is willing to surrender for a rental with Bird rights.

The other question is - does LA win enough games over the next month that they too become buyers at the deadline or simply stand pat to compete for a lower seed in the West.
 

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This list is suspect because it doesn't include the Celtics or the Raptors, for example but its a start. I think the 76ers could also be a player.

That said, I think the Celtics should have a leg up on most teams given the assets they control. The first question is what Danny is willing to surrender for a rental with Bird rights.

The other question is - does LA win enough games over the next month that they too become buyers at the deadline or simply stand pat to compete for a lower seed in the West.
I've been wondering about whether or not they really will end up being sellers.
 

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Blake will come back, get injured again, and they'll be sellers.

I wish they could find a way to dump Gallinari too.
You could staple him to Jordan if they are serious about dealing him. His contract makes him very tough to deal though. That said, if he gets healthy, he could still be very effective for the Clippers.
 

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Kuzma is gonna be a star. This displeases me.
Don't know about his defense, but he is far and away the best player on that team on the offensive end, IMO. Even better than Ingram. He's got 27 tonight, and he's the first rookie to score 25 points in 3 straight games for the Lakers since like Nick Van Exel, and he's got a chance to be the first rookie to lead the team in scoring since Elgin Baylor.

I can't find it right now, but somewhere around here, when the Lakers finally put him in the starting lineup, I said that night it would be the move that changed their season.
 

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Man, It's not wonder Golden State keeps winning. There have been some amazingly horrible calls and non-calls, all of which have gone against the Lakers in this game, including about a half dozen in the last 10 minutes.
 

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And there's another one. They called KCP with a foul earlier on as clean a block as you'll ever see, Lonzo just got hammered at the rim, no call leads to a fast break, and now KCP gets fouled on a 3 pointer, no call, leads to a fast break, and a 2 point game turns into an 8 point game with 2 minutes left. The Lakers deserved to win this one, as much as I hate saying that.
 

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Bell is too and that should displease everyone other than SRN and other Dubs fans. Both were there for just about anyone in the draft...
 

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Ahahaha, Lonzo picks Durant clean, and Durant flops on the ground like he was shot, and they call Lonzo for a trip or something. I don't think he even touched his leg.
 

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Durant will win defensive player of the year, if he's allowed to hack everyone constantly and have the announcers ballwash his "blocking" ability.
 

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Beasley follows up last nights 32 points/12 boards against the C's with 6 points in 13 minutes in a Knicks loss. WTF? How do these awful basketball players just have career nights against the C's.
 

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Beasley follows up last nights 32 points/12 boards against the C's with 6 points in 13 minutes in a Knicks loss. WTF? How do these awful basketball players just have career nights against the C's.
Beasley averaged 17 points in 22 minutes in the 10 games before tonight, so it's not just Boston he's been scoring against recently. I think he just isn't in good enough shape to have much left on a back to back after the insane effort he gave down the stretch against Boston (28 points in the final 16:25).
 

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Warriors win their 11th straight to take pole position for the #1 seed and help out the Celtics' pick — but not before blowing all of a 23-point third quarter lead and watching Kuzma and the scrappy Lukers take a brief fourth quarter advantage.

Ball 5-6 from 3; KD and KT combine for 5-19. Get well soon, Steph!

Jordan Bell got the start and played his best game as a pro: 20 pts (9-13 fg), 10 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk, 1 tov. Warriors were +22 in the 25 minutes he played and -15 in the minutes he sat.
 

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Jordan Bell got the start and played his best game as a pro: 20 pts (9-13 fg), 10 reb, 3 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk, 1 tov.
Bell this year's second-round steal. I realize he doesn't fit into Brad's system as well as Semi, but I wish the Celts could've gotten him.
 

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Don't know about his defense,
Worst among PFs in DRPM by a good margin, fwiw. Not exactly promising, but less concerning for a rookie (even an old one) carrying such a heavy load on offense. With his length and agility I wouldn't be surprised us he at least becomes a neutral defender.

Bell is too and that should displease everyone other than SRN and other Dubs fans. Both were there for just about anyone in the draft...
Having stanned hard for Bell pre-draft, I'm happy that he keeps boxing out on the Risen Drocca's trolling bricks. But shooters' gonna shoot.
 

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Austin Rivers puts Rozier to shame with how much he pounds the ball. Yeesh
Welcome to SoSH, where players are criticized for dropping a 36/7 against the 2nd best team in the league in a double digit road win while shooting 40% from 3 for the season.
 

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Except his length is below average. He also makes some really bad play making decisions.


edit: Assuming you mean wingspan and reach.
His wingspan was measured as 7'0.25" at the combine. That might be slightly below average for an NBA PF (I can't find positional averages for the NBA), but unless you have something that shows otherwise, I think it's fine for a small ball four who plays primarily on the perimeter. Tatum, for example, is listed at 6'11" or 7'0", depending on the source.

I don't really get the reference to his play-making decisions with respect to his defense, unless you think it indicates poor court sense, in which case I wouldn't necessarily disagree. He's a strong negative on defense right now and he didn't put up very impressive steal/block numbers in college, but he has quick feet for a guy his size, which would give me a glimmer of hope if I were a Lakers fan.
 

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Nuggets are about to complete a blowout of the Warriors (on night two of a back to back).

Back to the Clippers loss - while I take no joy in ElUno's pain - that team needs assets and they have some pieces to deal. Another few losses and they will become legitimate sellers. Let's see what they get for Lou Will and, perhaps, Jordan...
 

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Nuggets are about to complete a blowout of the Warriors (on night two of a back to back).

Back to the Clippers loss - while I take no joy in ElUno's pain - that team needs assets and they have some pieces to deal. Another few losses and they will become legitimate sellers. Let's see what they get for Lou Will and, perhaps, Jordan...
Williams and Rivers had 74 of the Clippers' 112 points, and Jordan had 18 boards.
 

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These officials in the Laker game. Man. Miss an obvious foul on a 3 pt shot by Kuzma. Then miss an obvious backcourt violation. Both in the last 30 seconds or so. Ugh
 

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I’m not sure how Warriors fans feel (they probably don’t care and they really shouldn’t) but Durant is a little disappointing to me in that I think he is worried about efficiency and shot selection a little too much. It seems crazy to me that he only has I believe one 50 point game in his career; when you consider he has to be one of the five or so most skilled pure-scorers the league has ever seen. Tonight GS clearly needed scoring and he only put up 17 shots. As a fan without any stake in the result of the game; I just want to see him shoot 35 times in a game every once and a while. His career winning percentage is a clear indicator that his playing style is the right way to win basketball games; but nothing livens up a boring mid-season slate of games than a player gunning for 60 points. I feel like Durant should have given us a half-dozen of those in his career.
 

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Good win for my Nuggets (and btw, both teams were on a back to back, with both on the road for Denver. Not sure which you were referencing).
Props to the young Nuggets — I missed the game, but I assume the Ws shooting 3-27 from 3 had at least something to do with Mike Malone’s crew playing great D.

Fun fact: in the previous 26 games the Warriors had played without either Steph or KD (not both), they were ... 26-0.
 
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His wingspan was measured as 7'0.25" at the combine. That might be slightly below average for an NBA PF (I can't find positional averages for the NBA), but unless you have something that shows otherwise, I think it's fine for a small ball four who plays primarily on the perimeter. Tatum, for example, is listed at 6'11" or 7'0", depending on the source.

I don't really get the reference to his play-making decisions with respect to his defense, unless you think it indicates poor court sense, in which case I wouldn't necessarily disagree. He's a strong negative on defense right now and he didn't put up very impressive steal/block numbers in college, but he has quick feet for a guy his size, which would give me a glimmer of hope if I were a Lakers fan.

I meant in regards to his passing. He goes for the fancy passes a lot and they result in turnovers. He's kind of a black hole.
 

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I’m not sure how Warriors fans feel (they probably don’t care and they really shouldn’t) but Durant is a little disappointing to me in that I think he is worried about efficiency and shot selection a little too much. It seems crazy to me that he only has I believe one 50 point game in his career; when you consider he has to be one of the five or so most skilled pure-scorers the league has ever seen. Tonight GS clearly needed scoring and he only put up 17 shots. As a fan without any stake in the result of the game; I just want to see him shoot 35 times in a game every once and a while. His career winning percentage is a clear indicator that his playing style is the right way to win basketball games; but nothing livens up a boring mid-season slate of games than a player gunning for 60 points. I feel like Durant should have given us a half-dozen of those in his career.
I’ll cop to a twinge of envy after those Harden b2b 51-point games that KD and Steph don’t go god-mode/ballhog-mode a bit more often. They’re obviously capable of doing so at high-ish efficiency, and you’re right that it’s fun to watch when it happens.

But then I remembered the last time a Warrior scored 51 in b2b games — the legendary Antawn Jamison in 2000-01. And remembered that Houston lost both those Harden 51 games. And thought about how seldom great scorers who play for great teams (whether LeBron, KD, Steph, Kyrie et al.) call their own number enough to get 50.

Channeling Steve Kerr a bit: even if you can put up 35-40 fga on solid efficiency, by doing so you’re also effectively freezing out the other guys. And when you allow all the other guys to eat on O, it tends to inspire them to get after it more on D, and generally contributes to team harmony. So on balance I’m cool with leaving those god-mode games to the Jamisons and Devin Bookers of the world whose teams care less about things like defense, team harmony and winning.