I have it from former players at Rutgers that he’s a dick. Like, in disrespectful ways of other people, including players.
I have never been able to reconcile what I have heard about Schiano and Belichick’s friendship.
I report, you decide.
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I have never been able to reconcile what I have heard about Schiano and Belichick’s friendship.
I report, you decide.
BB’s guy Lombardi seems to love him too. But he has always seemed like a jackass to me.
BB's friends can be dicks?
LB Channing Crowder got drafted by Miami and ran into Saban in the men's room at training camp.
CC {flustered, trying to be polite}: "Hi coach....uh...how's your wife?"
Saban {staring}: "....She'll be a lot better when you learn to cover backs on third down."
LB Channing Crowder got drafted by Miami and ran into Saban in the men's room at training camp.
CC {flustered, trying to be polite}: "Hi coach....uh...how's your wife?"
Saban {staring}: "....She'll be a lot better when you learn to cover backs on third down."
So in that 30 for 30 BB explained he worked for Parcells. As in, I give advice, he decides. HC is the dictator.
So too here. Encouraging people to go for guys’ knees is crap. For the purpose of blowing up victory formulations to steal a game is particularly stupid, Golic endorsed crap.
I don’t think it would be tolerated in NE for 5 minutes. Cuz who is the dictator? That is not the team’s culture.
I think the Pats would find an appropriate role for him — one that gives Flores room to grow and preserves his career with the Pats.
And I’m fine with doing him a solid if BB thinks it’s warranted.
Reiss on the subject
I might reframe the context of the question because Schiano wouldn't have to interview for a job with the Patriots. He is so close with Belichick that I believe he could be hired tomorrow if he told Belichick he was interested in joining his staff in a similar type of role that Belichick had under Bill Parcells in 1996 (assistant head coach working with a specific position). That could always happen, but at this point, I'm not sure it has reached that level.
I might reframe the context of the question because Schiano wouldn't have to interview for a job with the Patriots. He is so close with Belichick that I believe he could be hired tomorrow if he told Belichick he was interested in joining his staff in a similar type of role that Belichick had under Bill Parcells in 1996 (assistant head coach working with a specific position). That could always happen, but at this point, I'm not sure it has reached that level.
Regardless of who is reporting this story, I could very well see this as being a possibility. It would be a very Belichick move for the following reasons:
1. At this point it is a certainty that he is losing his two top lieutenants with a chance that Joe Judge and Dante Scarnecchia could also move on. As currently constructed, next year's coaching staff will be light on experience above position coach. Belichick is a strong believer of depth at all levels of the organization and while Flores and O'Shea might be good options for coordinator roles, they don't seem to be ready to step into Belichick's shoes if need be. Adding a guy who has a bit more experience and is clearly trusted by Belichick adds a layer of depth to step in if needed.
2. Would seem somewhat similar to the Dom Capers and Michael Lombardi hires. Perfect storm of need for a guy to step in on a temporary basis and a guy who needs some image rehab.
One thing is guaranteed, this coaching staff will look much different next year.
1. At this point it is a certainty that he is losing his two top lieutenants with a chance that Joe Judge and Dante Scarnecchia could also move on. As currently constructed, next year's coaching staff will be light on experience above position coach. Belichick is a strong believer of depth at all levels of the organization and while Flores and O'Shea might be good options for coordinator roles, they don't seem to be ready to step into Belichick's shoes if need be. Adding a guy who has a bit more experience and is clearly trusted by Belichick adds a layer of depth to step in if needed.
2. Would seem somewhat similar to the Dom Capers and Michael Lombardi hires. Perfect storm of need for a guy to step in on a temporary basis and a guy who needs some image rehab.
One thing is guaranteed, this coaching staff will look much different next year.
It absolutely could happen for very sound football reasons (an inexperienced staff after the promotions) and cosmic ones — face it, the outrage industry must be, simply MUST be, fed. And the outrage will be fulsome, nationally, regionally and here. And it will be epic when Belichick tells everyone to go shit in a hat.
Sounds like McDaniels may be wavering re: Indy. I wonder if there are signals that BB may be done sooner rather than later (as in a year or two) and Josh understands he's next in line.
Is Schiano more appealing after last night's debacle? Clearly Belichick / Patricia / Flores / etc. have no idea how to defend the RPO stuff and Schiano, coming from the college game, would be more intimately familiar.
You actually need good players in the front 7 to defend the RPOs which the patriots have very few of.
Lombardi said post game ringer pod that schiano is not a candidate. Good coach but not going to be DC. Mentioned another internal guy
Talent was an issue, but they also seemed unprepared. Even though the Jaguars burned them on RPOs and they should have expected the Eagles to do the same. They had no idea what they were doing.
Eagles all but emptied their playbook against Minnesota two weeks ago. Hard to fathom what the Pats’ D was working on since then. Seems like somebody should have been in position to stop a play by accident at some point.
We knew that he wasn't going to be the DC but coming on as AHC/LB is not out of the question.
This would be my guess, or at least Belichick has told him something like "I'm going to take a few weeks after the Super Bowl to think about my future and then I'll let you know." McD could just be waiting to hear either (a) Belichick is leaning towards retiring in the next few years and wants McD to be his successor or (b) Belichick thought about it and wants to coach for a while longer, in which case McD will go to Indy.
Last night's fiasco was due far more to the talent (or lack thereof) on the front 7 than the schema. If you cannot get pressure on the QB rushing 4,5, or 6, the scheme really doesn't matter. If you miss easy tackles, the scheme matters even less.
I know the Eagles OL is better than the Titans, and some of their talent and scheme is too, but the same front seven had 8 sacks in the divisional round. And people were touting the Titans OL as a strength before that game.
I'm not complaining about the refs, but there was stuff going on in the trenches last night that wasn't allowed during the Titans and Jaguars games. The kind of stuff allowed is a great equalizer. The Pats should have been able to overcome it, they didn't. But saying "the same Pats players played against an equally good line in game X with good results means that it was the fault of the scheme/gameplan in this game" overlooks quite a bit.
Edit: Fixed my englishes
Execution matters as well, and that is a variable that is tougher for coaches to control. Or predict.
I think the Eagles OL is far better than most the Pats have seen this season. And without Wise (who presumably wasn't fully recovered from his concussion) playing much, there's really not much talent there aside from Brown and Van Noy, none of whom scream "All Pro".
Reminded me a bit of 2009: no scheme would make a defense led by Adalius Thomas and Derrick Burgess, both of whom were beyond finished by that point, be any good.
The Pats probably benefitted from it on offense though. Brady had all day to throw. I’ll gladly take any game called the way yesterday was.
The talent and lack of rush was a factor, definitely. But the Eagles also converted a bunch of the key opportunities with misdirection plays, plays where the Patriots were fooled out of their shoes and non-competitive. They looked unprepared, in addition to being bereft of talent.
Again, not complaining - only saying that additional time allows Foles to maximize his skills without panic. If you call that stuff on both sides - I think Brady handles it better than Foles (but I'm biased).
Just quibbling, I think I agree with your point.
Coordinated at Arky when Tflow was a senior. Although could have used him yesterday, and he probably lives walking distance from the stadium.
Ryan Hannable @RyanHannable 15m15 minutes ago
According to @kirkmin, Patriots special teams coach Joe Judge going to Indy with Josh McDaniels
According to @kirkmin, Patriots special teams coach Joe Judge going to Indy with Josh McDaniels
Had 2 stints in New England (91-92) and (99-present) with the Bears mixed in there.
If Scar and Fears retire (and who would blame them) there's so little left. O'Shea. Ventrone. Flores. Boyer. Daly. Jr. Belichick. And Caley.