Brad Beal traded to Suns
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Is it? I thought it seemed pretty shitty. But the real winning is getting him off the books for expiring contracts. Paul will be traded when possible or bought out if not possible, I’d guess.
Edit - I guess it depends how far out the swaps are.
So it's basically Shamet and some swaps for Beal. So depends what the swaps are for me.
I kinda like this deal for Suns just to go Paul-less.
But who's gonna play point for the Suns now? They have 2 undersized shooting guards now (albeit one of them a top-12 NBA player).
I kinda like this deal for Suns just to go Paul-less.
But who's gonna play point for the Suns now? They have 2 undersized shooting guards now (albeit one of them a top-12 NBA player).
So the Suns are now playing 2 players over $45m and another two players over $30m?
Seems like they pretty much have to trade Ayton now.
Seems like they pretty much have to trade Ayton now.
Beal, he's a decent enough passer given how ball dominant all 3 guys are. Suns made a whole team of guys who want to dribble into a mid-range jumper
I guess. He's never averaged 7AST/G in any season his career.
Beal is a guy that dribbles into a long-range jumper, is that better?
You know…Smart/Gallinari/picks for Ayton might not be the worst thing for each team?
Doesn’t this set Phoenix up for having three max contracts? Won’t that make it very hard to operate within he new CBA? Or can we assume that this is a one year push for a title with either Ayton or Beal gone next year..?
FYI, CP3 can't go back to the Suns even if released.
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They only have 24 and 26 available for swaps.
So safe to say 24 is worthless, 26 unlikely to be used either.
ok thanks. I forgot how far out you could go.
You think he and Kyrie will get along ok?
Ayton is a really big, really bad contract. $30+ million for negative defense, no outside shooting, no passing, and ok efficiency. Are you paying that money for his decent rebounding? I want no part of that.
Since they got this deal done so soon, I'll be interested to see if Washington has a deal setup to flip Chris Paul before the league year ends to eat some other bad money and grab an asset.
Because they got back a plate of garbage here, this is a pure salary dump.
Because they got back a plate of garbage here, this is a pure salary dump.
Would you need to send even a first round pick? Smart would be a great fit for their new Big Three, and ditto for a healthy Gallinari off the bench.
White/Brown/Tatum/Horford/Ayton
Brogdon/Hauser/RWill off the bench
Need to figure out GWill and Pritchard, and also get more bench help, but that wouldn't be terrible at all.
It's considered by many the worst contract in the NBA. To rid yourselves of an albatross and get anything at all in return is a win.
Which sort of begs the question why the hell they offered it in the first place. Prior regime notwithstanding.
I guess i misheard the commentator, I guess Clippers are expected to try to trade for Paul from Washington
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AST/G doesn't really matter. As to the latter... That's my point.
PHX gave up very little but built a team that (pending another move) makes little sense.
Have to look it up to make sure but I believe it expires on his waiving it the first time
It was always a bad deal. The new CBA made it gawd awful.
The "it's just the owner's money" crowd got neutered
It doesn't.
He's not waiving his no trade clause, he's waiving his right to exercise it on this trade.
yeah part of the return is where he ends up—as it won’t be Washington.
I have to think they had a choice of Ayton, Herro, or shamet/cap space/return for Paul. So choosing the last suggests a full rebuild im
Only way Herro isn’t an option is if he’s going for Lilliard, again just my view.
So the worst of it comes in 2 years, so I would assume their plan is to just sell out on the next 3 years, then let KD walk, Ayton too if not traded. Basically planning to try and win in the first 2-3 years then either be very bad, or trade Booker to hard reset.
problem is.... I think this trio is a pretty bad fit, so winning a title seems unlikely
Remains to be seen what happens with Ayton and the rest of that roster, but honestly Beal is not what I would have done with their remaining assets/room.
He is basically an older, worse, more injured version of Booker. I suppose perhaps this was the only way they felt they could upgrade the roster but doesn't feel like a good use or resources to me.
He is basically an older, worse, more injured version of Booker. I suppose perhaps this was the only way they felt they could upgrade the roster but doesn't feel like a good use or resources to me.
But the only resource they had to use was money. And yes that is a resource, but I assume they didn't think they were going to be able to get a similar asset for free
Let's see what WAS gets for Paul, because that tells us some of what PHX could have done. They also would have had an MLE.
MLE, possible if they had been able to make a Paul trade with no money coming back.
He's one helluva 3rd option. He won't be asked to carry the offense, so he'll be getting a lot more catch and shoot opportunities as a tertiary scorer.
Wouldn't have needed to take back that little to get to tax MLE, non-tax would have been tougher. Adding $15M like they did in this deal makes it close to impossible.
Edit- actually added $20M in this deal for some reason I thought Paul's guarantee was higher
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