Charles Lee to join the Celtics coaching staff

radsoxfan

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 9, 2009
13,749
Seems like more good news….

Lee, Silas and Cassell is an absurdly big upgrade from the Ime holdover crew with 1 foot out the door.

edit: not Silas, Woj deleted his initial tweet and re-posted
 
Last edited:

Eddie Jurak

canderson-lite
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Dec 12, 2002
44,831
Melrose, MA
I hope this doesn't end in a duel.

More seriously, given the likely return of coach and key players, putting together a high level coaching staff is something that needed to happen. For a whole host of reasons including maintaining credibility with the players.
 

moondog80

heart is two sizes two small
SoSH Member
Sep 20, 2005
8,280
Seems like more good news….

Lee, Silas and Cassell is an absurdly big upgrade from the Ime holdover crew with 1 foot out the door.
Silas went to Detroit. But your point otherwise holds.
 

Justthetippett

New Member
Aug 9, 2015
2,521
Great news. Mazzulla is going to perform with their support or they have multiple in house options if he goes sideways.
 

GB5

New Member
Aug 26, 2013
690
As I asked in another thread how do the assistants manage this stuff. Lee was # 1 in Milwaukee, Cassel #1 in Philly. Do we have to worry about ego’s etc..when building a staff?
 

RorschachsMask

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 23, 2011
5,355
Lynn
As I asked in another thread how do the assistants manage this stuff. Lee was # 1 in Milwaukee, Cassel #1 in Philly. Do we have to worry about ego’s etc..when building a staff?
I’d assume Cassell will get the title of associate head coach, and Lee gets lead assistant.

The bench has gotten a MASSIVE upgrade in the last week.
 

luckiestman

Son of the Harpy
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
32,903
This is the most I’ve heard about Celtics assistant coaches in my life. Maybe Thibs was close. I hope these guys are excellent and that it matters.
 

lars10

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 31, 2007
11,875
As I asked in another thread how do the assistants manage this stuff. Lee was # 1 in Milwaukee, Cassel #1 in Philly. Do we have to worry about ego’s etc..when building a staff?
At the very least we got the assistants from two of our biggest rivals who I’d imagine would best know how to play Embiid and Giannis.

Cassel seems to be good with guards.. wonder if Lee is equally as good with another position group… from the outside it looks like the beginnings of a decent staff.
 

lars10

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 31, 2007
11,875
Can you name a single assistant coach on the Nuggets and Heat?
Did any of us know who Joe Mazzula was before this year? I think the major difference is obviously having a brand new coach vs. coaches who have been in the league for a decade or two.
 

HomeRunBaker

bet squelcher
SoSH Member
Jan 15, 2004
30,391
Can you name a single assistant coach on the Nuggets and Heat?
Most on the front row bench in their respective positions are comparable and that includes the head coach. Not only wasn't Joe even on the front row a year ago but none of his assistants were either. It was literally the blind leading the blind which won't be the case this upcoming season. How much of a difference will it make? Hard to measure but it has to help putting us on level ground of experience.
 

Auger34

used to be tbb
SoSH Member
Apr 23, 2010
9,704
Can you name a single assistant coach on the Nuggets and Heat?
Nuggets have Ryan Suanders on their staff (Flips son). They also have Popeye Jones and Rick Adelmans son (only knew about the last two because Van Gundy talked about it on a broadcast).

Heat have former Notre Dame guard Chris Quinn
 

RorschachsMask

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 23, 2011
5,355
Lynn
Nuggets have Ryan Suanders on their staff (Flips son). They also have Popeye Jones and Rick Adelmans son (only knew about the last two because Van Gundy talked about it on a broadcast).

Heat have former Notre Dame guard Chris Quinn
Young Adelman is the next big assistant to emerge for head coaching jobs.

He’s a stud.
 

Auger34

used to be tbb
SoSH Member
Apr 23, 2010
9,704
This is a HUGE hire, same with Cassell. Celtics got two of the best assistants available on the market.

I am guessing the next hire (and the remaining front row spot) will be a former Celtic assistant with Mazzulla ties (Jerome Allen or Jamie Young)
 

Ale Xander

Hamilton
SoSH Member
Oct 31, 2013
73,537
I am happy that they got him, but I am sad about what could have been if they had Lee and Cassell this year.
 

koufax32

He'll cry if he wants to...
SoSH Member
Dec 8, 2006
9,115
Duval
Communication skills (thanks, Bucknell).

Not sure that's a Joey Mazz strength . . .
I’m fine if his only communication is to slap CJM on the back of the head when he starts saying “MOAR THREEEES” during a practice or a timeout.
 

ugmo33

Member
SoSH Member
May 6, 2016
166
This is the most I’ve heard about Celtics assistant coaches in my life. Maybe Thibs was close. I hope these guys are excellent and that it matters.
I think that points to how unique last season's coaching situation was, you never hear about assistant coaches leaving en masse and normally they get hired alongside the head coach so you don't really notice. Given that so many people complained about the coaching in the playoffs this should be a really good thing
 

JCizzle

Member
SoSH Member
Dec 11, 2006
20,704
Big fan of this. I hope Joe gets the advice he needs to be a 20+ year coach for this team.
 

shoosh77

Member
SoSH Member
Oct 19, 2009
4,408
New Canaan, CT
Any one of them close to veteran ring chasers? Would be nice if it would be a selling point to the likes of a Chris Paul to come here.
 

Nomar813

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
7,846
Any one of them close to veteran ring chasers? Would be nice if it would be a selling point to the likes of a Chris Paul to come here.
Could always bring in Cliff Paul handle the team's contract insurance.
 

bankshot1

Member
SoSH Member
Feb 12, 2003
24,824
where I was last at
I hope strengthened the coaching bench bodes well for greater communication, a clearer vision, better in game decisions and player buy-in for that vision. Before this lack of assistant coaching was becoming a public problem, I recall questioning why there was not greater communication between CJM and his assistants, as it appeared increasingly obvious he was floundering and needed some help. I'm hoping for the best.
 

Lose Remerswaal

Experiencing Furry Panic
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
I hope strengthened the coaching bench bodes well for greater communication, a clearer vision, better in game decisions and player buy-in for that vision. Before this lack of assistant coaching was becoming a public problem, I recall questioning why there was not greater communication between CJM and his assistants, as it appeared increasingly obvious he was floundering and needed some help. I'm hoping for the best.
I hope it improves three point defense. Cuz if Miami hadn’t been lights it from three, the C’s would still be playing.
 

Euclis20

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 3, 2004
8,256
Imaginationland
Played against him for several years too. Still can't imagine Paul ever ending up here with our backcourt rotation already set.
Yeah, trading away one of Brogdon/Smart/White would be a virtual requirement for him, and probably Pritchard too. He still averaged 14/9 in 32 minutes this year, I don't think he's ready to sign up for 20-25 minutes just yet (and that's the most he'd get on the current roster).
 

The Mort Report

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 5, 2007
7,137
Concord
I hope strengthened the coaching bench bodes well for greater communication, a clearer vision, better in game decisions and player buy-in for that vision. Before this lack of assistant coaching was becoming a public problem, I recall questioning why there was not greater communication between CJM and his assistants, as it appeared increasingly obvious he was floundering and needed some help. I'm hoping for the best.
I think an undersold aspect is the fact that Stoudamire left the staff around the beginning of March, who was the top assistant. I can't say for sure how a coaching staff is structured in the NBA, but I'd imagine it was Stoudamire's job to dictate to the other coaches for Mazzulla. So not only was Mazzulla dealing with no offseason prep to be a HC with a staff he had no say in, he also lost his probably biggest communicator right near the end of the season and from what I can tell no one took his place. Everyone has different communication styles, so to change that near the end of the season on the fly would also be a major hindrance
 

benhogan

Granite Truther
SoSH Member
Nov 2, 2007
20,410
Santa Monica
Joe's life just got A LOT easier especially during those 48 minutes.
Agreed. Game planning & season planning just got a whole bunch better

I'm sure IME's leftover assistants were professional but I wouldn't be surprised if they were grumbling under their breath that Ime got a raw deal all season.

I'm still in favor of Drew Hanlen (or another Pure Sweat coach) getting hired as a skills coach.
 

DeJesus Built My Hotrod

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
Dec 24, 2002
48,751
Hanlen would be an interesting get but I suspect his earnings far outstrip what any NBA team could practically offer him.
 

lars10

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 31, 2007
11,875
I hope it improves three point defense. Cuz if Miami hadn’t been lights it from three, the C’s would still be playing.
As has been discussed elsewhere.. Miami is getting more wide open looks against Denver than they did against the Celts.. Martin, Vincent and Strus are just shooting a lot closer to the actual players they are.
 

Lose Remerswaal

Experiencing Furry Panic
Lifetime Member
SoSH Member
As has been discussed elsewhere.. Miami is getting more wide open looks against Denver than they did against the Celts.. Martin, Vincent and Strus are just shooting a lot closer to the actual players they are.
I am aware. My real point was if Miami hadn’t been so incredibly good at shooting these announcements couldn’t have been made yet cuz the C’s would still be playing.
 

joe dokes

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 18, 2005
30,614
This bodes well as long as the egos are kept in check.
Someone correct me if it's ever been reported, but I can't recall ever hearing about a situation where the assistant coaches' egos have ever been a noted problem on any team - either amongst themselves or w/r/t the head coach. Even with some abject failures like Calipari, and even as his burning funeral pyre was being floated down river, there weren't stories about his assistants chuckling behind their back at his incompetence, or in-fighting among them. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, of course.
 

the moops

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 19, 2016
4,757
Saint Paul, MN
Someone correct me if it's ever been reported, but I can't recall ever hearing about a situation where the assistant coaches' egos have ever been a noted problem on any team - either amongst themselves or w/r/t the head coach. Even with some abject failures like Calipari, and even as his burning funeral pyre was being floated down river, there weren't stories about his assistants chuckling behind their back at his incompetence, or in-fighting among them. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, of course.
I agree with this. NBA coaching is a small circle of people who all know each other. A really good way at getting kicked out of that circle is to go behind your head coaches back and try and seize control
 

HomeRunBaker

bet squelcher
SoSH Member
Jan 15, 2004
30,391
Someone correct me if it's ever been reported, but I can't recall ever hearing about a situation where the assistant coaches' egos have ever been a noted problem on any team - either amongst themselves or w/r/t the head coach. Even with some abject failures like Calipari, and even as his burning funeral pyre was being floated down river, there weren't stories about his assistants chuckling behind their back at his incompetence, or in-fighting among them. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, of course.
There was that Warrior fiasco with the infamous Darren Erman when Scalabrine was, I believe, on the staff. I'm sure similar occurs elsewhere just not busted out in the open. It's a cutthroat business as everyone is trying to get the next promotion or the next head job. Nothing would surprise me in these ranks.
 

Auger34

used to be tbb
SoSH Member
Apr 23, 2010
9,704
There was that Warrior fiasco with the infamous Darren Erman when Scalabrine was, I believe, on the staff. I'm sure similar occurs elsewhere just not busted out in the open. It's a cutthroat business as everyone is trying to get the next promotion or the next head job. Nothing would surprise me in these ranks.
Wasnt there something with Jason Kidd and Lawrence Frank too? I believe when Kidd was the Nets coach he accused Frank of trying to sabotage him and steal his job
 

slamminsammya

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 31, 2006
9,427
San Francisco
I've never thought so much about assistant coaches in basketball. I doubt it makes much difference at all, with some historical exceptions for revolutionary minds.