Danny Amendola restructures contract

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What's beyond idiotic but virtually guaranteed: Some dimwits will grade us out at D- for the draft. Yes, plural.

What do we have left if we lose our 5th rounder to the Bills (see companion thread) and don't flip JG or Butler?
 

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I wonder if it will be two years or one.

I'm going to guess something like 2/5, with 3m guaranteed.

That would make the caps look like:

2017 $1 million salary $1.5 million pro rated bonus $1.416m prior year bonus Cap hit: $3,916,000 (Cap savings $3,875,000)

2018 $1 million salary $1.5 million pro rated bonus Cap hit: $2,500,000
 

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Update: Amendola's new deal will be a slight increase from the $1.6M he made in 2017, per source.

Looks like Pats will save around $4 million in this restructure as he was scheduled to make $6 million this year.
If this is @ 2 million/yr, it is a steal with his knowledge of the offense and familiarity with Brady, playoff experience and sccess, and Edelman insurance.
 

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That's still a lot. Good 3rd day viewing. thank you.
The way I see it, they've already made their 1st round pick(Cooks), 2nd round pick(Ealy), and hopefully 1 of 2 5th round picks(Gillislee). They hardly have any roster spots up for grabs right now. They only need another edge rusher, ILB, and maybe another safety.

QB: Brady, Jimmy G, Brissett
RB: (Gillislee), Burkhead, Lewis, White, Foster, Develin
WR: Cooks, Edelman, Amendola, Mitchell, Hogan
TE: Gronk, Allen, Lengel, Housel
OL: Thuney, Solder, Cannon, Andrews, Mason, Waddle, Karras, Fleming
DE: Nink, Flowers, Ealy, Grissom
DT: Branch, Valentine, Brown, Guy
LB: Hightower, Van Noy, Roberts, McClellin, Freeny
CB: Gilmore, (Butler), Rowe, C. Jones, J. Jones, Coleman
S: McCourty, Chung, Harmon, Richards
ST: Gostkowski, Allen, Cardona, Slater, Bolden, Ebner, King
 
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QB: Brady, Jimmy G, Brissett
RB: (Gillislee), Burkhead, Lewis, White, Foster, Develin
WR: Cooks, Edelman, Amendola, Mitchell, Hogan
TE: Gronk, Allen, Lengel
OL: Thuney, Solder, Cannon, Andrews, Mason, Waddle, Karras, Fleming
DE: Nink, Flowers, Ealy, Grissom
DT: Branch, Valentine, Brown, Guy
LB: Hightower, Van Noy, Roberts, McClellin
CB: Gilmore, (Butler), Rowe, C. Jones, J. Jones, Coleman
S: McCourty, Chung, Harmon, Richards
ST: Slater, Bolden, Ebner, King
Wow.
 

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The way I see it, they've already made their 1st round pick(Cooks), 2nd round pick(Ealy), and hopefully 1 of 2 5th round picks(Gillislee). They hardly have any roster spots up for grabs right now. They only need another edge rusher, ILB, and maybe another safety.

QB: Brady, Jimmy G, Brissett
RB: (Gillislee), Burkhead, Lewis, White, Foster, Develin
WR: Cooks, Edelman, Amendola, Mitchell, Hogan
TE: Gronk, Allen, Lengel
OL: Thuney, Solder, Cannon, Andrews, Mason, Waddle, Karras, Fleming
DE: Nink, Flowers, Ealy, Grissom
DT: Branch, Valentine, Brown, Guy
LB: Hightower, Van Noy, Roberts, McClellin
CB: Gilmore, (Butler), Rowe, C. Jones, J. Jones, Coleman
S: McCourty, Chung, Harmon, Richards
ST: Gostkowski, Allen, Cardona, Slater, Bolden, Ebner, King
I think this all means that they are keeping JG. There's no way they would want to risk a Brady injury with what they're building here
 

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The way I see it, they've already made their 1st round pick(Cooks), 2nd round pick(Ealy), and hopefully 1 of 2 5th round picks(Gillislee). They hardly have any roster spots up for grabs right now. They only need another edge rusher, ILB, and maybe another safety.

QB: Brady, Jimmy G, Brissett
RB: (Gillislee), Burkhead, Lewis, White, Foster, Develin
WR: Cooks, Edelman, Amendola, Mitchell, Hogan
TE: Gronk, Allen, Lengel
OL: Thuney, Solder, Cannon, Andrews, Mason, Waddle, Karras, Fleming
DE: Nink, Flowers, Ealy, Grissom
DT: Branch, Valentine, Brown, Guy
LB: Hightower, Van Noy, Roberts, McClellin
CB: Gilmore, (Butler), Rowe, C. Jones, J. Jones, Coleman
S: McCourty, Chung, Harmon, Richards
ST: Gostkowski, Allen, Cardona, Slater, Bolden, Ebner, King
Jonathan Freeny should be back to bolster the Linebackers too.
 

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Me thinks they still have one big move left. Maybe for a productive vet who becomes a cap casualty later in the year.
The roster going forward, though, depends a great deal on the Butler outcome. If they keep him, could they maneuver what picks they have left into just 2-3 choices overall?
 

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The roster going forward, though, depends a great deal on the Butler outcome. If they keep him, could they maneuver what picks they have left into just 2-3 choices overall?
They can truly draft for need and not BPA if they wanted to. That's how many spots are up for grabs. Also don't forget the practice squad guys battling for spots.
 

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The way I see it, they've already made their 1st round pick(Cooks), 2nd round pick(Ealy), and hopefully 1 of 2 5th round picks(Gillislee). They hardly have any roster spots up for grabs right now. They only need another edge rusher, ILB, and maybe another safety.

QB: Brady, Jimmy G, Brissett
RB: (Gillislee), Burkhead, Lewis, White, Foster, Develin
WR: Cooks, Edelman, Amendola, Mitchell, Hogan
TE: Gronk, Allen, Lengel, Housel
OL: Thuney, Solder, Cannon, Andrews, Mason, Waddle, Karras, Fleming
DE: Nink, Flowers, Ealy, Grissom
DT: Branch, Valentine, Brown, Guy
LB: Hightower, Van Noy, Roberts, McClellin, Freeny
CB: Gilmore, (Butler), Rowe, C. Jones, J. Jones, Coleman
S: McCourty, Chung, Harmon, Richards
ST: Gostkowski, Allen, Cardona, Slater, Bolden, Ebner, King
They can truly draft for need and not BPA if they wanted to. That's how many spots are up for grabs. Also don't forget the practice squad guys battling for spots.
3rd rd #72 and #96, 4th #131, 5th #183, 6th #200, 7th #239
Agreed with both points. It'd be perfect if the BPA is an edge rusher or ILB of course, but I'd be surprised if they didn't go with BPA with those picks they do have.

edit: oh, wait, I read you incorrectly on the second point. I see what you are saying. I'm still a BPA person, though. My thinking is that the roster is so stacked right now, grab BPAs that will hopefully be key contributors over the next 4-5 years because the 2017/18 season isn't resting on their getting a contributor at position "X".
 

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Wow -- just 1/1.7 for Amendola. A bit surprised it's that low. Most of it is guaranteed.

That's about $4.5 million in cap savings this year. I think there will be a small cap hit next year if he is on the roster for more than 12 games this year, because he gets an active game bonus of $300k, and 4/16ths of this won't be considered likely to be earned this year, since he only played 12 games last yer.

So, call it $4.2 to $4.5 million in cap savings. Pretty favorable for the team, for sure.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/danny-amendola-5905/

Edit: Math
 

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Wow -- just 1/1.7 for Amendola. A bit surprised it's that low. Most of it is guaranteed.
On the one hand, DA caught a lot of balls during nut cutting time in Houston. And made so many big plays in the last two SB runs.

On the other hand, who of Cooks, Edelman, Hogan and Mitchell is Danny ahead of on the depth chart?

Don't get me wrong, I love Danny Amendola and am always relieved when Tom is going to him. I'm just struggling to see how he gets incorporated short of injury, and one could argue that $1.7 mm is a lot of money to spend on a 5th WR/insurance policy.

I know, if he's on the roster, he will eventually contribute in a real way. But the depth chart is what it is.
 

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The pay cut is a substantial one but I doubt he could have gotten much more on the open market. Glad he wants to stay but he's basically an insurance policy at this point. Of course, it's a policy we will probably need at some point this season.
 

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Yeah, I didn't think he'd break the bank, but I would have guessed closer to 2.5m based on his chemistry with the QB.

It's a very inexpensive contract. His vet minimum is $900,000. He's only getting paid a few hundred thousand above that and the last $300,000 is earned only for games he's on the roster (so by definition for those games he will be high enough on the depth chart to get paid.)
 

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They can truly draft for need and not BPA if they wanted to. That's how many spots are up for grabs. Also don't forget the practice squad guys battling for spots.
This might be a draft where its all homerun types. Why draft someone likely to get cut if you can draft an injury risk homerun or the like - a couple of times. Gronk, Flowers, Cannon come to mind.
 

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After two rings, I wonder what makes him so willing to take another giant pay cut. Is his agent telling him that if the Pats cut him his career is likely done if he wants anything above $1.7? I feel like he's a guy that could pretty easily get two years and $5m on the open market. He must really really love playing here if he's sacrificing bigger money for a shot at a THIRD ring.
 

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Would there be any performance incentives? Imagine the depth chart issue becomes moot if any of those guys go down.
 

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After two rings, I wonder what makes him so willing to take another giant pay cut. Is his agent telling him that if the Pats cut him his career is likely done if he wants anything above $1.7? I feel like he's a guy that could pretty easily get two years and $5m on the open market. He must really really love playing here if he's sacrificing bigger money for a shot at a THIRD ring.
That's it. The 3rd ring is why.
 

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Well, it'd allow both him and Jules to say they're in rare company with Jerry Rice...and Troy Brown.
 

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I like Amendola, but the guy averaged less than 2 catches a game when he was healthy, is getting up there in age, and has an injury history. Maybe he gets a bit more on the open market, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't comparable. Probably not worth the cost of moving a family.
 

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I would have thought he could get $2 million out there, maybe a little more with incentives. Just throwing a name out there (though they play different styles), Kamar Aiken's deal with the Colts sort of stands out as what mildly proven vet receivers who know how to run routes can get out there even without crazy numbers. Maybe Amendola is hampered by thoughts that he's a system player and not as valuable without Brady throwing him the ball.

The bottom line is that he has more value to the Patriots than to anyone else, I guess. His quarterback trusts him when the money is on the table, he knows the play book, and, maybe most importantly, he's one of only three players on the team who catches and returns punts. Jones needs to focus on other things this year to avoid a downward spiral and Edelman can't be the only option back there.

Cooks caught some in his rookie year, but he has all of three returns in the last two years. Plus, the Patriots are 7 or fewer days away from having to option Cooks for somewhere north of $8 million for 2018, and I believe fifth year rookie contracts are guaranteed for injury, so perhaps not his highest and best use.
 

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He seemed like he was having a good time over the weekend, skateboarding through the city with Edelman and others. And his Miss Universe GF has New England ties, so maybe he's all set doing his thing here. And maybe he likes winning.

I realize he could do pretty much all of that (maybe except all the winning) pretty much anywhere else he wanted. And possibly make more money. But maybe it wasn't enough money to go through learning a new system, moving, and all that. I'm glad he's sticking around, even if his impact isn't felt until week 19 and on
 

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His career earnings are about $20M at this point. An extra $1.5M or so over the last 3 years of his career isn't going to make any difference in his lifestyle - moving is. He's in a good place.
 

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After two rings, I wonder what makes him so willing to take another giant pay cut. Is his agent telling him that if the Pats cut him his career is likely done if he wants anything above $1.7? I feel like he's a guy that could pretty easily get two years and $5m on the open market. He must really really love playing here if he's sacrificing bigger money for a shot at a THIRD ring.
By all indications he does really love playing here. He has family in the area, has made decent money, and gets to play for the New England Patriots.
 

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Dennard, Spikes, Hernandez...
All 3 are detestable humans (some worse then others) but for risks to reward on the football field the Pats won on all 3 of these guys.

I would be thrilled with 3 guys who contributed similarly on the field from this draft.
 

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I like Amendola, but the guy averaged less than 2 catches a game when he was healthy, is getting up there in age, and has an injury history. Maybe he gets a bit more on the open market, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't comparable. Probably not worth the cost of moving a family.
He's single, with no kids. Moving a family likely didn't have much to do with it. His parents are from Boston and I believe he has extended in the area, but this wasn't about moving kids out of their schools type thing. I think he's content with his setup and at this point playing for the Pats, winning and the bromance with TB and JE are likely worth enough for him to settle for s little less, if that's even the case.
 

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He's single, with no kids. Moving a family likely didn't have much to do with it. His parents are from Boston and I believe he has extended in the area, but this wasn't about moving kids out of their schools type thing. I think he's content with his setup and at this point playing for the Pats, winning and the bromance with TB and JE are likely worth enough for him to settle for s little less, if that's even the case.
For what it's worth, his girl friend is from RI (and is a total smokeshow). That might have made staying local easier, at least at the margins.


https://www.google.com/amp/heavy.com/sports/2017/02/olivia-culpo-danny-amendola-girlfriend-photos-dating-patriots-wags-instagram-super-bowl/amp/
 

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All 3 are detestable humans (some worse then others) but for risks to reward on the football field the Pats won on all 3 of these guys.

I would be thrilled with 3 guys who contributed similarly on the field from this draft.
True on your first point. My point was that all three slipped due to character issues, especially AH and AD.

I'm not sure that the net result of on field positives vs off field negatives would bring BB or RK to repeat such a risk/ reward ratio.
 

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After two rings, I wonder what makes him so willing to take another giant pay cut. Is his agent telling him that if the Pats cut him his career is likely done if he wants anything above $1.7? I feel like he's a guy that could pretty easily get two years and $5m on the open market. He must really really love playing here if he's sacrificing bigger money for a shot at a THIRD ring.
He's made a lot of money by real-people standards, and he has been on some really bad teams. He may figure that he's financially set, playing less means less risk of injury, and playing in a great situation is better than some incremental money he doesn't really need. People have different priorities and he's made his clear---it is not about maximizing money at this point.

I think we can get caught up in the relative wealth of pro athletes without remembering many of them came from normal roots and view themselves as incredibly rich after their first big contract. According to Spotrac, Amendola has already made $19 mil in his career. That's a lot of money, and he's locked in some smallish post-career revenue stream in Boston (tv, radio, ads, etc.) if he needs/wants it.
 

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True on your first point. My point was that all three slipped due to character issues, especially AH and AD.

I'm not sure that the net result of on field positives vs off field negatives would bring BB or RK to repeat such a risk/ reward ratio.
Needless to say, I doubt they draft AH again. Spikes and Dennard, dont see why not.
 

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Needless to say, I doubt they draft AH again. Spikes and Dennard, dont see why not.
But how much different, do you guess, were the pre-draft reports on those three? Is AH's case enough to poison the entire well of "character issue" possibilities?
I don't know, I'm just surmising.
But this is pretty OT for Amendola. Maybe a Dope could move this discussion into a new thread about drafting/signing character issue guys.
 

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Needless to say, I doubt they draft AH again. Spikes and Dennard, dont see why not.
Well yes.
I think if they know a guy was going to be a murderer then no they probably dont draft him. Hell maybe they tightened their protocols on character evaluation because of that situation.

My point was that based on Football, on the field , Hernandez at the 113th pick was a huge coup. Compare him to Pitta, Garrett Graham, Clay Harbor or Hooman as TEs picked after him. We could argue that Geno Atkins would have been a better choice, or Kam Chancellor but other then them I dont see a better player. (lots of better people.)

Sure a big part of that was that Tom Brady was throwing to him, so who knows what Pittas career would look like with him as his QB. Also he no doubt benefited from playing with Gronk. However out of that group only AH had an amazingly complimentary skill set to Gronk (and hence the offense). It wasnt just "2 TEs" . It was that Combination of TEs. Both where very successful, and IMHO AH was just beginning to tap his potential on the football field.