NFL Trade Deadline Thread

EL Jeffe

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Chase Young is having a nice year. If NE is trading for him, and have the parameters of an extension worked out, it makes plenty of sense to trade for a young cornerstone player like him. A Young/White combo is VERY intriguing.
 

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Why Chase Young? Last year of his deal, would be a win now move. Would only be interested at a super low price, like a 5th rounder at most.
presumably if they really are interested because they want to upgrade Uche to Sweat and re-sign or tag him.

If say the price on Sweat is a 3rd, and you can sell Uche for a 4th or similar that's a nice upgrade and you can tag him if he won't extend.

Young would be a very needed piece going forward, he's far more capable of playing more snaps than Uche.
 

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Chase Young is having a nice year. If NE is trading for him, and have the parameters of an extension worked out, it makes plenty of sense to trade for a young cornerstone player like him. A Young/White combo is VERY intriguing.
I'm just not really buying that Young would forego reaching free agency to agree to an extension now unless stupid money were involved, and I don't think Bill is the type to give guys stupid money.
 

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I'm just not really buying that Young would forego reaching free agency to agree to an extension now unless stupid money were involved, and I don't think Bill is the type to give guys stupid money.
Bill would just tag him 1 year 20M? given all the cap we have not terrible, and helps you work out a long term deal.
 

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I wonder how good Young is at throwing and catching footballs? Seems like the biggest need on the team. Or defense, again.
 

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You really expect them to trade for a viable QB?
No, but to save draft capital so they can draft a quality QB or easily move around the draft for one.

Why spend draft capital on an elite pass rusher when the rest of your team is gutted? When you have a black hole at the most important position on the field?

To sell more jerseys while you go 5-12?
 

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Wonder if the AZ trade means that Murray is ready to return. - and if so, how sharp he'll be. I ask as a wholly indifferent viewer who may or may not have the Browns over AZ as his next survivor pick.
 

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Wonder if the AZ trade means that Murray is ready to return. - and if so, how sharp he'll be. I ask as a wholly indifferent viewer who may or may not have the Browns over AZ as his next survivor pick.
Last I checked it sounded like he will be back next week.
 

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It would make sense for a team like Detroit to spend a fourth or fifth rounder to rent a pass rush specialist like Uche.
The only 2 useful defenders not under contract next season are Uche and Dugger. Getting value for one of them and signing the other long term would be a real smart move by BB the GM.
 

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Wonder if the AZ trade means that Murray is ready to return. - and if so, how sharp he'll be. I ask as a wholly indifferent viewer who may or may not have the Browns over AZ as his next survivor pick.
he's back either this week or next, so yeah definitely. Have to activate him soon either way.
 

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I don't ever believe a word out of Gannons' lying mouth, but he said yesterday that Thule was starting vs Cle this weekend.
 
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I would rather not trade Uche for a 4th or 5th b/c we would likely get better than that in a compensatory pick when he signs in FA this off-season.
 

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I would rather not trade Uche for a 4th or 5th b/c we would likely get better than that in a compensatory pick when he signs in FA this off-season.
Only if the Pats don't sign an offsetting FA. Not really sure he'd net them better than a 4th anyway. Plus you get the pick a year earlier. But since the Pats will have cap space and hopefully will be active in FA, they may not be qualify for any picks.
 

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Is Young even that guy to begin with? Does the fact that they didn't even pick up his fifth year option not give you the slightest pause?
I absolutely think he is. AFAIK, Washington didn't pick up the 5th year option solely because they were hedging against some serious injury concerns. He was very good as a rookie and he's putting up really good rush numbers (5 sacks, 9 hurries, 18 pressures) this year.

That said, giving up a 2 and then having to franchise him (if it came to that) wouldn't be ideal.
 

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Only if the Pats don't sign an offsetting FA. Not really sure he'd net them better than a 4th anyway. Plus you get the pick a year earlier. But since the Pats will have cap space and hopefully will be active in FA, they may not be qualify for any picks.
I was going to post this about the Bears situation, too - they have the most cap room in the NFL for next year right now, so the chances they get a comp pick if Sweat walks are low. Hence the increased likelihood of an earlier signing or tagging.
 

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I would rather not trade Uche for a 4th or 5th b/c we would likely get better than that in a compensatory pick when he signs in FA this off-season.
I think it's unlikely they get a good comp pick for Uche.
He's not going to be the top player at his position likely, how many snaps will he play? Also... we have the most cap space in the league, so the odds we sign quite a few players higher on the CFA list is high.
 

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I just noticed the Saints are $87 million over next year. Always a fun time with the Saints.

Top 5 under:
1) Bears $95.7m
2) Titans $87.5m
3) Commanders $79.5 (could be the reason they didn't want to wait for a comp pick on Sweat either)
4) Patriots $77.9m
5) Texans $74.5m

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2024/
 

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Is Young even that guy to begin with? Does the fact that they didn't even pick up his fifth year option not give you the slightest pause?
Yeah, paying $20 million for a guy that his current team wouldn't pay $17m for seems like hubris -- unless you see a serious system mismatch.

His cap hit for the rest of this year is not nothing either. But maybe if you really like a guy, having a window of exclusive time to extend and threat to franchise makes some sense.
 

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I just noticed the Saints are $87 million over next year. Always a fun time with the Saints.

Top 5 under:
1) Bears $95.7m
2) Titans $87.5m
3) Commanders $79.5 (could be the reason they didn't want to wait for a comp pick on Sweat either)
4) Patriots $77.9m
5) Texans $74.5m

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2024/
Wow, the Bears will potentially have 2 of the top 5 picks and are $95m under the cap. That would be hard to screw up (but I’m sure the Bears will try).
 

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Won't WAS want more back for Young than Sweat or at least same comp? There is no way NE should entertain giving up anything close to what Young will go for.
 

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Yeah, paying $20 million for a guy that his current team wouldn't pay $17m for seems like hubris -- unless you see a serious system mismatch.

His cap hit for the rest of this year is not nothing either. But maybe if you really like a guy, having a window of exclusive time to extend and threat to franchise makes some sense.
Maybe, but a lot of teams make 5th year option mistakes, they made that decision a year ago and at the time it was generally seen as a hedge against his injury history with the option to tag him for not much more if he had a good year (paying an extra 3M to get another year look at a guy isn't crazy when he has had serious knee issues).

The thing on the tag also is... it's less about paying him that than leverage. You can tag him to scare off anyone else then work out a longer deal instead.
 

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Won't WAS want more back for Young than Sweat or at least same comp? There is no way NE should entertain giving up anything close to what Young will go for.
They were trading one to potentially keep the other. So I'd say Young is off the market now. They have a ton of money tied up in the rest of their DL already, so they couldn't afford all 4.
 

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Hopefully he shows up against the run, too, because they’ve been awful on run defense this year. Their reputation and media focus on the skill injuries and the Great Purdy Debate have distracted from that.
 

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This will work until it won't. And then it'll take years for them to work their way out of the abyss. So hope it works now!
They traded a third-round compensatory pick. How does this have them staring into the abyss?
 

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Hopefully he shows up against the run, too, because they’ve been awful on run defense this year. Their reputation and media focus on the skill injuries and the Great Purdy Debate have distracted from that.
And the defense has been like the weakest part of that team so far, especially the run defense.