Tanaka partially torn UCL; out minimum of 6 weeks
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I hate the Yankees, but that sucks.
If the results are bad, I wonder if it makes them turn up the heat on pursuing pitching (Price, Hamels, Lee), or just let the season play out.
If the results are bad, I wonder if it makes them turn up the heat on pursuing pitching (Price, Hamels, Lee), or just let the season play out.
Even with a healthy Tanaka, they'd be idiotic to move prospects to try to win this season (which doesn't mean they won't), but if Tanaka goes down, they should be sellers (not that they probably have anything anybody wants to give up anything for).
It might just be the World Series wins, but I don't have the hatred for Tanaka that I did for Irabu and Matsui for some reason.
smastroyin said:
I have no hatred of Tanaka, but I'd love to see a huge deal blow up in the Yankees' face. The Dice-K deal was very risky and this one blew it out of the water. I won't shed a tear if it gets added onto the pile of awful NY contracts.
smastroyin said:
Its nothing personal regarding Tanaka. It is personal regarding the Yankees. I'll never forget what their fans did to me from 1986-2003
Amen.StuckOnYouk said:
Only in my case, it started a lot earlier than that.
Seeing the Yankees get limited return on their $500 mm investment from last off season is one of the few bright spots in an otherwise dreary baseball season. (Though cutting AJP in favor of Vazquez is another one on this fine day).
Tanaka isn't all that objectionable himself but anything that makes the Yankee organization and their entitled media and fans unhappy is a ray of sunshine in my eyes.
RedOctober3829 said:
Well, if your star pitcher is going to have something in his arm give out, this is the one thing you'd pick. This might even be a sliver lining situation as it will kill their chances of competing for a playoff spot this year, and probably next year giving them an excuse to hit the reset button. Jeter will be gone, Kuroda will almost certainly be retired, and the team can focus on rebuilding and getting the huge crop of international amateurs they just signed into low A so they can start sifting through the coal for some diamonds.
Of course, this is the Yankees, so they'll probably just sign Scherzer, Lester, Santana and Floyd, then grab Hanley to play short, bring back Melky to replace Soriano and go to war with a 250 million dollar payroll.
glennhoffmania said:
I'd say Teixeira's contract has been worse to date, and I wouldn't be shocked if it stayed that way over their next 2.5 seasons with the team, even with Sabathia being shut down.
TheoShmeo said:
I'll see your Amen and raise you a Praise Be to God.
Celebrating the misfortunes that befall the MFY franchise is not about the player (except A-Rod maybe), but about the assholes in the Upper Tier who'd break out the "19-18" or "Bill-y Buck-ner" if you so much as applauded a Brian Daubach base hit. Or threw shit at you or wanted to fight when it's four of them and it's you with your girlfriend.
These are not good people. Never forget.
Add: I'm sure Abbey and Terrynever sat in the good seats, not Upper Tier, and are exempt from the above polemic.
There is zero chance that NY waits for a bunch of international teenagers to start contributing. They'll sign at least one of Lester, Scherzer and Shields this year. Maybe they sign Markakis for RF. I wouldn't bet on Hanley but they obviously need two middle infielders and they have nothing to trade to get them. The potential 2B FA pool is very shallow but there are a couple of SS that will be available.
glennhoffmania said:
I was more thinking they'd wait long enough to see if any of them are viable trade chips. But yeah, they are probably far more likely to just splash the pot and we'll have a "All your free agents are belong to us" thread in this forum by January.
jon abbey said:
I honestly see them only doing a big money deal with one of the pitchers. I could see them doing smaller deals with guys like Asdrubal or Hardy, and an OF like Willingham, Morse or Denorfia.
Corsi said:
Wow way to leave us hanging. Fucking reveal the info you just heard (not you, Corsi).
glennhoffmania said:
It probably means he doesn't have inside information. If he's wrong he can say that he meant the Yankees would fall out of contention without Tanaka for a few weeks and that he wouldn't pitch in meaningful games again this year. If Tanaka needs TJ surgery, he'll be back on the mound after the All Star Break next year at some point.
It's retweet/favorite bait.
Ok then maybe it's the fact that there is no rivalry this year and schadenfreude feels empty with how poorly the Sox are playing. Add to that the fact that I don't think the Yankees have a great either, with or without Tanaka.
Bryan Hoch @BryanHoch 9m
Masahiro Tanaka had an MRI, results will be evaluated by team physician Christopher Ahmad. He complained of soreness in elbow.
Masahiro Tanaka had an MRI, results will be evaluated by team physician Christopher Ahmad. He complained of soreness in elbow.
RedOctober3829 said:
The dreaded forearm tightness.
That does sound painful. Pinstripes have sharp edges.Snodgrass'Muff said:
Yes, all too often. It's not so clear that catching it early really makes any difference. If that's the case, then see Tanaka in 2016, not 2015.soxhop411 said:
orphan said:
I think they want to be ultracareful, and this way they make sure he doesn't have to go to the All-Star Game. He'd be eligible to be activated pretty soon after games restart, if he's ok.
The MRI was done today, but they said on the YES broadcast that the doctor they want to look at it is out of town, a bit odd.
Maybe they want multiple opinions or are stalling for time. I can't imagine that they have the MRI scans just sitting around mysteriously like an unopened Christmas present. Surely other doctors could be consulted or they could just email the scans to the doctor who is out of town.
There is a medical convention in Seattle going on where the top orthos are currently. Ahmad is there. Presumably they'll email him the results.jon abbey said:
I wouldn't be surprised either way with this one - McCann said that he was leaving the ball up in his start yesterday, and a slight loss of velocity or command is frequently the first sign of a torn UCL
That is completely ridiculous if true. The guy is a team employee and Tanaka's right arm is one of the team's most valuable assets. Tell Ahmad to come the fuck back to New York.
Bryan Hoch @BryanHoch 11mMorgan's Magic Snowplow said:
Masahiro Tanaka is flying to Seattle to see Dr. Christopher Ahmad. There is a conference there being attended by all the top orthopedics.
So we should know more by the end of tomorrow
With:
Tanaka's elbow,
Sabathia perhaps needing micro fracture surgery,
Tex drifting downward as an offensive force,
the 37 year old Beltran drifting downward,
Ellsbury's continued loss of power,
and A-Rod returning after a year's layoff,
its appropriate to take a glance at salary commitments going forward: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ah4PW47PiAi-dFFCSURtblVhZHIwU1lrVTBkWU9VMGc&output=html
The 30 year old McCann is the only one who seems to have a chance of adjusting to the league and raising his game. Though that's far from a sure thing.
Who is the core of this team going forward? Phelps, Gardner, McCann, Ellsbury?
Tanaka's elbow,
Sabathia perhaps needing micro fracture surgery,
Tex drifting downward as an offensive force,
the 37 year old Beltran drifting downward,
Ellsbury's continued loss of power,
and A-Rod returning after a year's layoff,
its appropriate to take a glance at salary commitments going forward: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ah4PW47PiAi-dFFCSURtblVhZHIwU1lrVTBkWU9VMGc&output=html
The 30 year old McCann is the only one who seems to have a chance of adjusting to the league and raising his game. Though that's far from a sure thing.
Who is the core of this team going forward? Phelps, Gardner, McCann, Ellsbury?