Week 10

Smiling Joe Hesketh

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To the "unwatchable" point, with which I agree, *close* is all the NFL cares about. The Pats-Colts game was "burn the tapes" bad, but it was close.
I think the league has correctly concluded that its core fans dont care about objective "quality" as much as they do "close/even our shit-tastic team playing like shit has a chance to win."
Look at NE. If the QB play had been merely "well-formed log" shitty instead of "call your doctor" shitty, theyd be in the hunt. Now, *we* would know that in any objective sense, they still suck, but the league is unconcerned about having four 8-8 teams battling for a playoff spots in week 17.
This is why I'm so angry about Mac. He is killing the franchise because if he could even provide Dalton-level play the Pats would be in the playoff mix.

Instead he's worse than Peterman. Nathan, not J.
 

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Firing the OC midseason when you’ve had a very productive offense (why is it a fireable offense that Allen is on a turnover spree? Or that Diggs, per usual, is agitating over targets?) is certainly a choice. Without additional context (has he had abrasion with McDermott, did he tell him to go fuck himself, etc), it is hard to see this as anything other than a reactionary sacrifice.
 
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Firing the OC midseason when you’ve had a very productive offensive (why is it a fireable offense that Allen is on a turnover spree? Or that Diggs, per usual, is agitating over targets?) is certainly a choice. Without additional context (has he had abrasion with McDermott, did he tell him to go fuck himself, etc), it is hard to see this as anything other than a reactionary sacrifice.
Reminder - McDermott is calling the D and chose to call a 0 blitz twice at the end of the game. That second one ended up with Jeudy wide open with no safety help over the top that directly caused the pass interference. He is a joke.
 

Smiling Joe Hesketh

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Once again, everyone eventually comes around to my POV. Been saying that for years.

Coach Hardo has always been a fraud. He's a bad coach and faux tough guy who is firing others to cover for his own vast deficiencies.
 

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So here's my question--you have a FG block team. That team consists of 11 players. Why would 12 run out on the field? I'm not talking about McDermott being a dolt or any of that. I'm talking simple logistics. The FG Block team has 11 players. Who the fuck run out there that wasn't on that team?
 

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So here's my question--you have a FG block team. That team consists of 11 players. Why would 12 run out on the field? I'm not talking about McDermott being a dolt or any of that. I'm talking simple logistics. The FG Block team has 11 players. Who the fuck run out there that wasn't on that team?
Might've been that someone didn't come off.
 

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Yeah--that's what I mean. Whoever that guy is, he has to KNOW he's not on the FG Block team, no?
I wonder if there was an injury earlier and both the previously-injured guy and his replacement wound up on the field. Otherwise, you're right - there's no way that should happen.
 

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Yeah, certainly seems like something that should've been communicated to the players during the timeout. FG block be ready, if you're not on field goal block hustle your ass off. If you have questions, ask now.

Not sure what McDermott's goal was with the timeout, but if his end goal was to get the ball back for a desperation play he probably should've waited until around 15 seconds left to call the TO. Means Denver doesn't have time to kneel and rush the kick (or makes far more difficult for them to pull off) and ensures he gets a KR or 1 play to end it. Denver had pulled it off with 20 seconds left in the first half following a completion so he had already seen them execute rushing the FG team on.
 

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I wonder if there was an injury earlier and both the previously-injured guy and his replacement wound up on the field. Otherwise, you're right - there's no way that should happen.
that was my guess - one of the regulars couldn't go, two guys thought they were the fill-in guy. Somebody being over-conscientious.
 

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Yeah, certainly seems like something that should've been communicated to the players during the timeout. FG block be ready, if you're not on field goal block hustle your ass off. If you have questions, ask now.

Not sure what McDermott's goal was with the timeout, but if his end goal was to get the ball back for a desperation play he probably should've waited until around 15 seconds left to call the TO. Means Denver doesn't have time to kneel and rush the kick (or makes far more difficult for them to pull off) and ensures he gets a KR or 1 play to end it. Denver had pulled it off with 20 seconds left in the first half following a completion so he had already seen them execute rushing the FG team on.
Fair point, though I think the counter for Denver if BUF called the TO at 10 seconds left is to roll out Wilson to burn time on a throwaway OOB.

Of course, the clock would’ve run out anyways with the 12 men on the field penalty, but for this hypo we could assume that would not have happened.
 

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The injury seems likely but teams have different special teams packages. Punt block vs punt return. Might they also have different FG packages and there was confusion which was called?
 

DJnVa

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that was my guess - one of the regulars couldn't go, two guys thought they were the fill-in guy. Somebody being over-conscientious.
Me, as injury replacement, to guy I thought was hurt: "Uh, so you're better huh? Shit..."
 

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Yeah--that's what I mean. Whoever that guy is, he has to KNOW he's not on the FG Block team, no?
COuple things could happen, injuries either in week or in-game change who is on the unit and someone forgets (or coaches don't communicate it). Or... someone doesn't get the word on which unit is on, so he's on the normal FG unit, but they have a sub-unit for all out blocks that is different.