Week 7: The Game Thread

[moretsyndrome]

My favorite means of avoiding the contemplation of inevitable death begins in just a few hours.

TV maps here

Jaguars @ Saints kick it off tonight at 8:15 on Amazon. Trevor Lawrence expected to play. I still like, but don't love, the Saints here.

Discuss, in the unlimited space provided below.

 

[moretsyndrome]

Get yer byes here!

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[Jed Zeppelin]

This game is trying to be exciting but it’s still giving Big Thursday Energy.

 

[mauf]

Saints are +2 on turnovers but trail 7-3. Opportunity here for JAX to stay cool and reassert control.

 

[Justthetippett]

These Jaguars give me 1996 Pats vibes. Very talented. Still learning how to not beat themselves.

 

[Tony C]

Not sure if this has been a discussion during previous weeks -- likely it has -- but this is the first time I've seen a game with the Prime Vision/Next Gen Stats AI thing. Super impressed....love the wide angle, with indicators of players/routes, etc. So far the indicated blitzes haven't happened, but fun to watch.

 

[mauf]

These Jaguars give me 1996 Pats vibes. Very talented. Still learning how to not beat themselves.

Good parallel, but the AFC had no elite teams besides Denver in 1996, so the Pats didn’t need as much luck to reach the Super Bowl as the Jags will need.

 

[Cellar-Door]

Does anyone know if anybody has publicly available stats on estimated points lost on drops and fumbles.. I'm curious how much the Jags are leading the league by... are we talking like 10% or like 90%?

 

[mauf]

Gotta GFI there down 14-3, but giving the ball back to the Jags just shy of midfield is tough. Saints need a stop here.

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Gotta GFI there down 14-3, but giving the ball back to the Jags just shy of midfield is tough. Saints need a stop here.

That and the 3rd down play the previous drive both felt like the Saints could’ve used a timeout. Rushed and failed plays.

 

[scott bankheadcase]

Not sure if this has been a discussion during previous weeks -- likely it has -- but this is the first time I've seen a game with the Prime Vision/Next Gen Stats AI thing. Super impressed....love the wide angle, with indicators of players/routes, etc. So far the indicated blitzes haven't happened, but fun to watch.

Yeah i’ve watched for three drives now and it is impressive.

I’m not sure if I love or hate watching it this way, but it’s definitely interesting and different.

I think it’s something I’d be into for a game like this, where I don’t really care who wins.

 

[mauf]

And this time NO punts on 4th and 3 across midfield. I don’t get it.

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

That one’s on Olave. If he keeps his feet that hits him right in the numbers.

 

[mauf]

Back-to-back 3-and-outs for the Saints’ D.

 

[luckiestman]

Until the Saints hire Gruden to coach Carr I’m not taking them seriously

 

[Justthetippett]

Good parallel, but the AFC had no elite teams besides Denver in 1996, so the Pats didn’t need as much luck to reach the Super Bowl as the Jags will need.

They'll definitely have to beat at least one of KC, Buff, Miami to get through, but they're capable. And injuries can create a lot of that luck.

 

[luckiestman]

I respect his beautiful eyes, they are truly beautiful, but I would be irate if the Jesters were paying Carr 30 million of Woody’s bucks or whatever his salary is

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Mac Lawrence

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Wow this ref has some pythons.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Trickery!!!

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Saw that coming on the up man’s weird leg kick.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Trevor Jones

 

[CoffeeNerdness]

Why is Lawrence targeting Spirow Agnew so much... Especially with Lattimore on him smh.

 

[mauf]

Incomplete. Hell of an effort by Lattimore.

 

[moretsyndrome]

Probably should have taken a closer look at the Saints’ SOS before picking this one. Yikes.

 

[mauf]

Why is Lawrence targeting Spirow Agnew so much... Especially with Lattimore on him smh.

I can’t decide whether the route or the throw was worse. Lucky to get that one back.

 

[luckiestman]

Ive seen a lot of Saints games this year. Their D is impressive, the O seems to play well below the talent level.

 

[luckiestman]

Carr is treating the Jags DBs like they are Ronnie Lott, Deion Sanders, Champ Bailey. Darrell Revis, and Ed Reed

 

[luckiestman]

If we could somehow convince these teams to believe that a first down was 11 yards but we really kept it at 10, we would have a shootout on our hands.

 

[CoffeeNerdness]

Calvin Ridley just caught a screen pass for zero yards and they showed him on the sidelines huffing and puffing like he broke off a 68 yard run. Cracked me up.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Mac Carr!

 

[Marciano490]

Calvin Ridley just caught a screen pass for zero yards and they showed him on the sidelines huffing and puffing like he broke off a 68 yard run. Cracked me up.

Maybe he cleared the over on receptions.

 

[luckiestman]

I had to look up who the Saints OC is

Pete Carmichael pack your knives and go home

edit: I realized I had looked this up earlier this season to see who was running this shitshow

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Carr still stares down his receivers and looks like he doesn’t do anything pre-snap. Rushers are just pinning their ears back and the Saints O has no way to punish, at least as long as their receivers can’t get open or keep getting bodied by DBs.

They should also probably scrap their non-Taysom run game. Every run up the gut into the teeth of the D, very odd.

 

[Cellar-Door]

Shaheed is so wasted in NO, playing behind Thomas who he's clearly better than, and Carr keeps missing him when he's open.

 

[Mystic Merlin]

I don’t care what Herbstreit is pushing, Kamara looks like a shell of himself. Crazy this is already his 7th year.

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Gonna keep running it up the gut I guess.

 

[BigSoxFan]

Gonna keep running it up the gut I guess.

I mean, just use Taysom if this is the strategy

 

[Cellar-Door]

I had to look up who the Saints OC is

Pete Carmichael pack your knives and go home

edit: I realized I had looked this up earlier this season to see who was running this shitshow

dead last in the league in play action, 3rd from the bottom in motion... it's got a lot in common with what the Patriots ran last year.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

I don’t care what Herbstreit is pushing, Kamara looks like a shell of himself. Crazy this is already his 7th year.

Case in point that third down

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

I mean, just use Taysom if this is the strategy

Yep.

 

[Mystic Merlin]

I’d go for two there.

 

[luckiestman]

The Saints kicker looks like the type of kid that yells at his girlfriend

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Case in point that third down

To be fair, whichever receiver was tasked with blocking Lloyd completely whiffed but Kamara was slowwwwwww trying to get to that edge.

 

[Cellar-Door]

Did I miss Williams getting hurt? Because, why would you sign a guy who was a monster in short yardage last year, just so you can run an aging 5'6 RB up the gut?

 

[luckiestman]

Everyone else thinks of the Wizard of Oz when Al says the Jags’ RB name, right?

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

To be fair, whichever receiver was tasked with blocking Lloyd completely whiffed but Kamara was slowwwwwww trying to get to that edge.

Agreed and don't want to diminish Lloyd's play. But AK has looked slower to my eyes as well this season/game.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Agreed and don't want to diminish Lloyd's play. But AK has looked slower to my eyes as well this season/game.

Maybe you don't see things as quickly as you used to

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Maybe you don't see things as quickly as you used to

Sadly, you aren't wrong, Ale.

 

[luckiestman]

I’m just glad 41 has his ribs if it was him that got stacked up on 2nd and goal