Anthony Davis: No Loyalty

Deathofthebambino · Feb 1, 2019

Here it is:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25902808/anthony-davis-sr-never-want-my-son-play-boston

"I would never want my son to play for Boston after what they done to Isaiah Thomas," Anthony Davis Sr. told ESPN on Friday. "No loyalty. Guy gives his heart and soul and they traded him."

Davis Sr. clarified that this is solely his opinion, and he can't speak for his son.

"This is just my opinion, not Anthony's," he said. "I've just seen things over the years with Boston and there's no loyalty."

lexrageorge · Feb 1, 2019

The irony is that if Thomas was still on the Celtics (rehabbing), it's even more unlikely Davis would want to stay after being traded there.

Cesar Crespo · Feb 1, 2019

He's not wrong. Of course, there's no loyalty in sports.

JCizzle · Feb 1, 2019

bosox79 said:
He's not wrong. Of course, there's no loyalty in sports.

I mean, as evidenced by his own son haha. I agree with your sentiment

BigSoxFan · Feb 1, 2019

Deathofthebambino said:
Here it is:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25902808/anthony-davis-sr-never-want-my-son-play-boston

"I would never want my son to play for Boston after what they done to Isaiah Thomas," Anthony Davis Sr. told ESPN on Friday. "No loyalty. Guy gives his heart and soul and they traded him."

Davis Sr. clarified that this is solely his opinion, and he can't speak for his son.

"This is just my opinion, not Anthony's," he said. "I've just seen things over the years with Boston and there's no loyalty."

Ok...

Who else haven’t the Celtics been loyal to? I feel like every superstar has a moron for a dad.

benhogan · Feb 1, 2019

Danny's to-do list is growing:
1. Bring back IT, and back up that Brinks truck
2. deal Tatum, Smart, Brown and TL to NOLA
3. deal all our acquired draft picks to NOLA
4. Convince Kyrie to resign on July 1
5. Convince Rich Paul and AD to eventually re-sign and not be a rental
6. Ship out Al Horford and Gordon Hayward

Is it possible to get "buyers remorse" before purchasing something?

Ed Hillel · Feb 1, 2019

bosox79 said:
He's not wrong. Of course, there's no loyalty in sports.

Not wrong about what!? Are you being serious? The Celtics “owed” IT a shit ton of money when it was clear as day he was broken down? Danny is building a team to win, not a fairy tale.

Again, what loyalty is his son showing to New Orleans? Maybe Daddy Davis and Kyrie could form their own team.

Cesar Crespo · Feb 1, 2019

BigSoxFan said:
Ok...

Who else haven’t the Celtics been loyal to? I feel like every superstar has a moron for a dad.

Jae Crowder and Antoine Walker immediately come to mind. He also just said "Boston." The Patriots aren't known for their loyalty.

Cesar Crespo · Feb 1, 2019

Ed Hillel said:
Not wrong about what!? Are you being serious? The Celtics “owed” IT a shit ton of money when it was clear as day he was broken down? Danny is building a team to win, not a fairy tale.

Teams aren't loyal. Players aren't loyal. It has nothing to do with IT. Ainge would trade Tatum tomorrow to get AD. Where is the loyalty to Jayson Tatum?

Cesar Crespo · Feb 1, 2019

Players are nothing more than commodities.

Ed Hillel · Feb 1, 2019

bosox79 said:
Teams aren't loyal. Players aren't loyal. It has nothing to do with IT. Ainge would trade Tatum tomorrow to get AD. Where is the loyalty to Jayson Tatum?

There isn’t any, it’s a business, I agree. Why should this guy, whose son is decidedly not being loyal, single out Boston over being “not loyal?” Is Magic loyal to his team if he ships them all out for his son? So his son can go play with LoyalBron? I mean yikes.

Cesar Crespo · Feb 1, 2019

Ed Hillel said:
There isn’t any, it’s a business, I agree. Why should this guy, whose son is decidedly not being loyal, single out Boston over being “not loyal?” Is Magic loyal to his team if he ships them all out for his son?

His comment is dumb.

It is dumb. My comment was tongue in cheek.

Gash Prex · Feb 1, 2019

Well there it is Danny, time to give up on davis and let him be traded to LA. Might as well give up on Kyrie too - Rich Paul....er the media has made it clear what people think of Boston.

Big John · Feb 1, 2019

bosox79 said:
Players are nothing more than commodities.

I do not agree with that. Players are multi million-dollar entertainment properties, like film or TV stars. Commodities are fungible. Star players are not. Players don't give up their sneaker contracts or endorsement deals when they change teams.

Deathofthebambino · Feb 1, 2019

bosox79 said:
Teams aren't loyal. Players aren't loyal. It has nothing to do with IT. Ainge would trade Tatum tomorrow to get AD. Where is the loyalty to Jayson Tatum?

That's ok though, because Tatum's Dad already gave his stamp of approval and said he'd trade his son for AD too? Shit, Tatum said he'd trade himself for AD. LOL

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/01/08/jayson-tatum-anthony-davis-celtics-pelicans-trade-rumors-nba/

Appearing on the “Celtics Beat” podcast with Adam Kaufman, Celtics broadcaster Cedric Maxwell told a story from last year when Tatum’s father had a bone to pick with the C’s radio analyst.

“You said you’d trade my son for Anthony Davis.’ And I said, ‘And?’ And he said, ‘Well, I probably would trade him too if he wasn’t my son,'” Max recalled.

When Maxwell then brought that story to Tatum, the youngin’ also agreed.

“Yeah, I’d trade me, too, for Anthony Davis,” Tatum told Max (courtesy of NBC Sports Boston).

lovegtm · Feb 1, 2019

benhogan said:
Danny's to-do list is growing:
1. Bring back IT, and back up that Brinks truck
2. deal Tatum, Smart, Brown and TL to NOLA
3. deal all our acquired draft picks to NOLA
4. Convince Kyrie to resign on July 1
5. Convince Rich Paul and AD to eventually re-sign and not be a rental
6. Ship out Al Horford and Gordon Hayward

Is it possible to get "buyers remorse" before purchasing something?

My feelings exactly right now, although those feelings are subject to change.

Cesar Crespo · Feb 1, 2019

Big John said:
I do not agree with that. Players are multi million-dollar entertainment properties, like film or TV stars. Commodities are fungible. Star players are not. Players don't give up their sneaker contracts or endorsement deals when they change teams.

Why should any GM or owner care about Anthony Davis's sneaker contract when it comes to acquiring him? If Kyrie Irving suffered a severe injury tonight, the Celtics would not sign him regardless of what kind of sneaker contract he has.

Cesar Crespo · Feb 1, 2019

Would people want the Celtics to verbally commit to Kyrie if he did with the C's? And if he did get injured a week later? Is it ok if the C's changed their mind?

RedOctober3829 · Feb 1, 2019

This is so incredibly ridiculous. The Celtics franchise is about as loyal as they come with their players and former players.

Big John · Feb 1, 2019

bosox79 said:
Would people want the Celtics to verbally commit to Kyrie if he did with the C's? And if he did get injured a week later? Is it ok if the C's changed their mind?

Sure, it's a business. At least if Kyrie blows out his knee he has a guaranteed contract through the end of next year for more money than most of us will make in a lifetime. If Jennifer Lawrence is disfigured in a car crash, does the studio owe her anything? Can it change its mind about casting her in the next big movie? Of course, she's already made more money than most of us will make in a lifetime.

Deathofthebambino · Feb 1, 2019

Hey Guys, there's an actual basketball game about to start.

Quick, to the game thread.

Cesar Crespo · Feb 1, 2019

Big John said:
Sure, it's a business. At least if Kyrie blows out his knee he has a guaranteed contract through the end of next year for more money than most of us will make in a lifetime. If Jennifer Lawrence is disfigured in a car crash, does the studio owe her anything? Can it change its mind about casting her in the next big movie? Of course, she's already made more money than most of us will make in a lifetime.

Probably depends on the contract Jennifer Lawrence signed with the studio. I'm not sure what your point is. That they are both commodities?

Big John · Feb 1, 2019

bosox79 said:
Probably depends on the contract Jennifer Lawrence signed with the studio. I'm not sure what your point is. That they are both commodities?

By your definition, yes. By mine, no. Commodities are fungible, like pork bellies.

benhogan · Feb 1, 2019

bosox79 said:
Teams aren't loyal. Players aren't loyal. It has nothing to do with IT. Ainge would trade Tatum tomorrow to get AD. Where is the loyalty to Jayson Tatum?

Avery Bishop : There is no real loyalty, and the first person who taught me that was you.

Jerry Maguire : I figure I was trying to sleep with you at the time.

Avery Bishop : Well, it worked.

nattysez · Feb 1, 2019

Respectfully, I don't think there's any point to debating the logic of anything that's going on with AD. He and his agent are going to do whatever it takes to get him traded to LA before the end of next week. Killing other teams' interest in him is part of it.

At this point, I think it's time for Danny to move on to plan B. AD isn't coming.

Deathofthebambino · Feb 1, 2019

bosox79 said:
Would people want the Celtics to verbally commit to Kyrie if he did with the C's? And if he did get injured a week later? Is it ok if the C's changed their mind?

That doesn't make sense. If Kyrie got hurt while under his new max long-term contract, would he agree to waive the rest of what the Celtics owe him?"

Of course not. Injuries are an uncontrolled variable for both sides. If Kyrie gets hurt between now and July 1st, it's not the Celtics who screwed him, it's the NBA's stupid CBA rules that require him to wait until July 1st to resign.

Whether or not Kyrie leaves is eminently controllable. By Kyrie. It's not a fair comparison.

CreedBratton · Feb 1, 2019

nattysez said:
Respectfully, I don't think there's any point to debating the logic of anything that's going on with AD. He and his agent are going to do whatever it takes to get him traded to LA before the end of next week. Killing other teams' interest in him is part of it.

At this point, I think it's time for Danny to move on to plan B. AD isn't coming.

Sadly there is no plan B. There won’t be a superstar this good available for many, many years, if ever. We need him to win a title. Unless Giannis magically becomes available years down the road, there won’t be a star this good again. It’s a shame The AD stuff is going down this way because I bet Danny would like the do over on getting a Paul George or Kawhi.

Cesar Crespo · Feb 1, 2019

CreedBratton said:
Sadly there is no plan B. There won’t be a superstar this good available for many, many years, if ever. We need him to win a title. Unless Giannis magically becomes available years down the road, there won’t be a star this good again. It’s a shame The AD stuff is going down this way because I bet Danny would like the do over on getting a Paul George or Kawhi.

There may no be plan B now, but guys who aren't available now could be a year from now. KAT comes to mind.

bosockboy · Feb 1, 2019

nattysez said:
Respectfully, I don't think there's any point to debating the logic of anything that's going on with AD. He and his agent are going to do whatever it takes to get him traded to LA before the end of next week. Killing other teams' interest in him is part of it.

At this point, I think it's time for Danny to move on to plan B. AD isn't coming.

All of this is coordinated to attack Boston from every angle by Klutch. Danny has to decide if one year of AD is worth it.

JokersWildJIMED · Feb 1, 2019

CreedBratton said:
Sadly there is no plan B. There won’t be a superstar this good available for many, many years, if ever. We need him to win a title. Unless Giannis magically becomes available years down the road, there won’t be a star this good again. It’s a shame The AD stuff is going down this way because I bet Danny would like the do over on getting a Paul George or Kawhi.

And when that superstar is available, many years from now, he and his agent will coordinate to go to the Lakers

BigSoxFan · Feb 1, 2019

bosox79 said:
There may no be plan B now, but guys who aren't available now could be a year from now. KAT comes to mind.

Towns just signed a 5 year / $190M deal with the Wolves in September and isn’t a FA until 2024. Zero chance he becomes available a year from now.

The Social Chair · Feb 1, 2019

Deathofthebambino said:
ESPN just showed a text from Anthony Davis' dad saying he'd never want to let his son play in Boston "after what they did to Isaiah Thomas."

This is a Ramona Shelburne story. She probably has a room at the Buss estate. She is a plant, not a journalist.

She is to Jeanie Buss what Hannity is to Trump.

Red Averages · Feb 1, 2019

JCizzle said:
I mean, as evidenced by his own son haha. I agree with your sentiment

Thank you!

“How dare this team trade a player so loyal”

Signed father of son demanding a trade away from a team willing to pay him hundreds of millions of dollars.

RedOctober3829 · Feb 1, 2019

IT has literally missed the last 2 years with injuries. Were they supposed to pay him max money for that? Give me a break with no loyalty.

DeJesus Built My Hotrod · Feb 1, 2019

Klutch, the Lakers, Davis and Davis' dad have an agenda. The question is whether Demps et al feel compelled to deal Davis now and, if so, what other teams will gamble on him. Toronto is the popular dark horse but I bet there are other teams who will make it difficult for the Klutch-Lakers crew agenda.

As for Boston, if Davis isn't traded by the deadline, they are still in it. But given Kyrie's comments, I am thinking hard about trading away a significant portion of his young assets for a player who doesn't seem to want to stay. Btw, good on Pierce and Jalen for calling out the Lakers/Klutch for doing everything in their power to make Davis to LA happen.

DannyDarwinism · Feb 1, 2019

The Social Chair said:
This is a Ramona Shelburne story. She probably has a room at the Buss estate. She is a plant, not a journalist.

She is to Jeanie Buss what Hannity is to Trump.

This. Shelburne is really tight with Jeanie. Obviously AD Sr. said it, which isn’t great, but if anything, Shelburne putting this story out makes me wonder if the Lakers are nervous about the Celtics chances. NBA PSYOPs, they’re faaan-tastic.

bankshot1 · Feb 1, 2019

Loyalty?

thats funny.

if you want loyalty get a dog.

Cesar Crespo · Feb 1, 2019

BigSoxFan said:
Towns just signed a 5 year / $190M deal with the Wolves in September and isn’t a FA until 2024. Zero chance he becomes available a year from now.

Yeah, bad example. Point remains, someone always becomes available.

DeJesus Built My Hotrod · Feb 1, 2019

bankshot1 said:
Loyalty?

thats funny.

if you want loyalty get a dog.

LeBron has a loyal lap dog. He refers to him as Rich Paul

Marbleheader · Feb 1, 2019

I really used to like the NBA. Shit like this makes it hard for me to embrace the game today. Danny can do everything right for 6 years and fall short but the Lakers can just roll out of bed and land superstars.

bankshot1 · Feb 1, 2019

DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:
LeBron has a loyal lap dog. He refers to him as Rich Paul

heh

the real issue(s) are the tampering and collusion seemingly sanctioned by the league.

While the Lakers may benefit in their latest attempt to strip mine a dominant big, (see Wilt, KAJ and Shaq) the damage to the competitive position of the smaller market teams seems secondary.

DeJesus Built My Hotrod · Feb 1, 2019

Marbleheader said:
I really used to like the NBA. Shit like this makes it hard for me to embrace the game today. Danny can do everything right for 6 years and fall short but the Lakers can just roll out of bed and land superstars.

Well, Woj was just on the ESPN broadcast and made it sound like New Orleans isn't inclined to succumb to what everyone, including the propaganda-spouting ESPN talking heads, is referring to as a "campaign". Anything is possible but knowing that it should benefit the Pelicans to hold firm, I am betting Davis is still in New Orleans this time next week. And if not, I would bet he isn't going to LA.

The Social Chair · Feb 1, 2019

The Lakers have failed to get stars for a decade.

Sprowl · Feb 1, 2019

RedOctober3829 said:
This is so incredibly ridiculous. The Celtics franchise is about as loyal as they come with their players and former players.

Red Auerbach was. Danny Ainge is not, and that's alright with me. It's alright with most of SoSH, who predicted that Izayer would get flipped throughout his spectacular 1.5 years in Boston.

It does sting, however, coming from AD senior.

DeJesus Built My Hotrod · Feb 1, 2019

The Social Chair said:
The Lakers have failed to get stars for a decade.

Kliq · Feb 1, 2019

The Social Chair said:
The Lakers have failed to get stars for a decade.

Yup. It wouldn’t be shocking to see Davis end up in LA; but he could also join the list of Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook and Paul George as superstars who were destined to go to LA and then didn’t.

BigSoxFan · Feb 1, 2019

The Social Chair said:
The Lakers have failed to get stars for a decade.

Other than that LeBron guy, sure.

Deathofthebambino · Feb 1, 2019

DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:
Well, Woj was just on the ESPN broadcast and made it sound like New Orleans isn't inclined to succumb to what everyone, including the propaganda-spouting ESPN talking heads, is referring to as a "campaign". Anything is possible but knowing that it should benefit the Pelicans to hold firm, I am betting Davis is still in New Orleans this time next week. And if not, I would bet he isn't going to LA.

Let's say New Orleans gets passed the trade deadline. Then what? The problem is, with each passing day, and each new story/commentary/reaction from every corner, I still feel like the chances of AD coming to Boston get further and further away, and of course, if that's the case, the chances of Kyrie re-signing here get smaller and smaller.

We may get passed this trading deadline, but if the waters get poisoned enough because of these comments from people like AD Sr., it's not like all of a sudden, come summer, AD is going to be all aboard the "I can't wait to get Boston" train. And how much do people really want to give up at that point knowing there is basically zero chance he resigns after next year? Are folks really willing to give up Tatum or Brown/Smart and a slew of draft picks for one season of AD?

This whole thing just fucking sucks.

I just want this fucking current team to turn the corner, and start fucking dominating and take down the Warriors when nobody believes they can. That's what I want. And then I want the AD's of the world begging to come play here withTatum and Brown and Kyrie after he signs his new deal.

Deathofthebambino · Feb 1, 2019

Oh yeah, and Fuck Durant. I hope he signs in New York, and then nobody joins him, and he ends up in NBA loserland for the remaining years of his toolbag career.

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