2013 Jets: Rex back for 2014

steveluck7 · Mar 21, 2013

soxfan121 said:
This is like doubting Phil Jackson or Red Auerbach's talents as a coach because they had all the talent. Yes, you might be right that with no talent, they'd be assclowns instead of Hall of Famers but it's just a thought exercise.

Rex has coached lots of very, very good defenses. Those defenses have had good talent. But don't make the mistake of assuming it is 100% ingredients, 0% chef.

Those comparisons are a bit unfair since those guys have won multiple handfuls of championships.

I do get what you're saying but i just think would only be a cut above a "JAG" coordinator if he were saddled in Dallas, for example. He gets a ton of credit for being his daddy's son and for telling people how great he is.

For my money, I'd rather Spagnuolo as a D coordinator than Rex.

soxfan121 · Mar 21, 2013

Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Of course he's never been even the DC of a SB winning team. Marvin Lewis was the DC for Baltimore when they won their first one.

Rex's defenses got the Jets to two AFC Championship Games with Butt Fumble at QB.

The lack of hardware probably motivates him but I doubt it's held against him when his next employer considers Rexy for his new DC.

I'm not saying Rex is "the best", just that Rex is good being a defensive coordinator. I would think Patriots fans would have more respect for him after the multiple game plans he's used to stifle this historically good offense (at times).

Yeah, he seems out of his depth as a HC because of his inability to coach offense or Sanchez or whathaveyou. He's a defensive Norv Turner - and Norv got 3 chances at head coaching jobs and can still have an OC job if he wants one. Rex is a good defensive coach. That he is also a buffoon should not obscure that.

Smiling Joe Hesketh · Mar 21, 2013

soxfan121 said:
~~Rex's defenses~~ 5 straight missed FGs that his defense had nothing to do with got the Jets to two AFC Championship Games with Butt Fumble at QB.

TheoShmeo · Mar 21, 2013

soxfan121 said:
Rex's defenses got the Jets to two AFC Championship Games with Butt Fumble at QB.

The lack of hardware probably motivates him but I doubt it's held against him when his next employer considers Rexy for his new DC.

I'm not saying Rex is "the best", just that Rex is good being a defensive coordinator. I would think Patriots fans would have more respect for him after the multiple game plans he's used to stifle this historically good offense (at times).

Yeah, he seems out of his depth as a HC because of his inability to coach offense or Sanchez or whathaveyou. He's a defensive Norv Turner - and Norv got 3 chances at head coaching jobs and can still have an OC job if he wants one. Rex is a good defensive coach. That he is also a buffoon should not obscure that.

Agree.

Hell, I wouldn't mind Rex as DC in NE. That's highly unlikely to happen for a variety of reasons but I strongly suspect that the Pats' defense would be better over time with Rex on board.

Smiling Joe Hesketh · Mar 21, 2013

TheoShmeo said:
Agree.

Hell, I wouldn't mind Rex as DC in NE. That's highly unlikely to happen for a variety of reasons but I strongly suspect that the Pats' defense would be better over time with Rex on board.

Jets' ranking in points allowed in Rex' tenure: 1st, 6th, 20th, 20th.

Not sure I'm buying all the defensive genius stuff. Sure, his offense doesn't help out his D at all because it sucks. Still, his trend is not good.

SeanBerry · Mar 21, 2013

And the one year he called the plays was the year they finished in 1st. Just sayin'.

Super Nomario · Mar 21, 2013

Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Jets' ranking in points allowed in Rex' tenure: 1st, 6th, 20th, 20th.

Not sure I'm buying all the defensive genius stuff. Sure, his offense doesn't help out his D at all because it sucks. Still, his trend is not good.

It's the offense. The 20th in points D was 4th in yards per play in 2011, 6th in 2012. The offense screws over the defense with turnovers (4th-most in 2011, tied for most in 2012). The D is still really good.

Leather · Mar 21, 2013

I don't think anyone is arguing that he's not at least a good defensive coach.

It just seems that, by constantly disavowing himself of responsibility for the team's offensive failings, he's hanging his hat entirely on his defensive prowess. And while he's, sure, a good, maybe even very good, defensive coach, he's not beyond reproach on that score, either.

Ed Hillel · Mar 21, 2013

SeanBerry said:
And the one year he called the plays was the year they finished in 1st. Just sayin'.

It was also the year they frontloaded a ton of of contract money on defense. Not sure of Rex's impact, but they had a ton of talent in their prime on that team.

I think Rex is probably a very good defensive coach, but he's also had talent with the Jets. I'd still take him as D Coordinator here, though. It's probably just a combination of good coaching and talent.

As a head coach, I don't think his rah rah style translates as well.

soxfan121 · Mar 21, 2013

Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Jets' ranking in points allowed in Rex' tenure: 1st, 6th, 20th, 20th.

Not sure I'm buying all the defensive genius stuff. Sure, his offense doesn't help out his D at all because it sucks. Still, his trend is not good.

No one but you is trying to sell "genius".

"Great" defensive coach is different by an order of magnitude than "genius".

The context for those rankings has already been discussed and clarified. Rex Ryan is a great defensive coach. He was great in Baltimore and he's been great with the Jets. He should be calling the defensive plays - he is the best defensive play caller on his staff.

He is not a great head coach. He is, almost certainly, a terrible offensive coach. He is proving himself to be an average or below average head coach.

But some missed field goals, some out of context defensive stats and a bias against the Jets in general shouldn't keep us from having an honest conversation about his abilities. And that includes not building a "genius" strawman from a "great" used in reality and then using some inaccurate stats to tear it down.

Dogman · Mar 21, 2013

soxfan121 said:
No one but you is trying to sell "genius".

"Great" defensive coach is different by an order of magnitude than "genius".

The context for those rankings has already been discussed and clarified. Rex Ryan is a great defensive coach. He was great in Baltimore and he's been great with the Jets. He should be calling the defensive plays - he is the best defensive play caller on his staff.

He is not a great head coach. He is, almost certainly, a terrible offensive coach. He is proving himself to be an average or below average head coach.

But some missed field goals, some out of context defensive stats and a bias against the Jets in general shouldn't keep us from having an honest conversation about his abilities. And that includes not building a "genius" strawman from a "great" used in reality and then using some inaccurate stats to tear it down.

The origin of "great" is pretty suspect. As Ed pointed out, they front loaded the talent on that defense so that it would carry the offense because of Sanchez's obvious problems. So, you are calling him great based on two AFCCG appearances and no Superbowl appearances or wins with all that talent. Moreover, look what happened to his defenses when he didn't have all that talent. Hint: it has nothing to do with "out of context" defensive states and bias.

To SJH's point, you would not be calling him "great" had those FG's been good. It's one thing to do what NE's defense did in '03-'04 (or Baltimore's in '00) and clearly dominate on the way to championships without a top 3 offense, it's quite another to say something similar about Ryan with completely different results.

So, no, I think he is good to very good. He is not "great". His record bear this out.

TheoShmeo · Mar 21, 2013

The success that Rexy's Ravens and Jets defenses have generally had against the Pats (excluding the delightful 45-3 drubbing), and his Ravens and Jets defenses have had in the regular season by and large, tempt me to dub him as a "great" defensive coach.

But no matter, he's not coming to the Pats as a defensive coordinator any time soon, and he sucks fat ass as a HC.

Every day he remains in that HC job in NY is a glorious day for Pats fans, regardless of what adjective you select with respect to his defensive chops.

Smiling Joe Hesketh · Mar 21, 2013

Points allowed to the Pats under the Rex regime:

9, 31, 14, 45, 21, 30, 37, 29, 49.

Avg. of 29.44 points per game.

Yes, some of those points are defensive TDs, fumble recoveries, etc. I'm not going through box scores to figure that out. The point generally stands, Rex's "successes" against the Pats came early in his tenure there and have been overblown as well.

Super Nomario · Mar 21, 2013

Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Points allowed to the Pats under the Rex regime:

9, 31, 14, 45, 21, 30, 37, 29, 49.

Avg. of 29.44 points per game.

Yes, some of those points are defensive TDs, fumble recoveries, etc. I'm not going through box scores to figure that out. The point generally stands, Rex's "successes" against the Pats came early in his tenure there and have been overblown as well.

Yeah, but if you don't go through the box scores, then you miss a lot. Looking at the games from the last two years:

10/9/11 (30 points): This was actually a bad defensive performance; the Jets didn't turn the ball over and allowed 446 yards of offense.
11/13/11 (37 points): Jets had 3 turnovers, including a pick-six, and the Jets D forced a safety and held the Pats under 400 yards
10/21/12 (29 points): 9 of the points were a kickoff return TD and a safety, and 3 more came in overtime; the Jets held the Pats' O to 17 points in regulation and 381 yards even with OT
11/22/12 (49 points): 2 fumble return TDs and 3 more turnovers; D forced a safety. Not a good defensive performance, but not as bad as the point total indicates

That's 30 points in the last four games the D had nothing to do with. They've had some bad games, but the Jets' defense has done about as well against the Pats as anybody.

glennhoffmania · Mar 25, 2013

The Jets are in the midst of assembling quite the motley crew of quarterbacks, having compiled a depth chart that includes Mark Sanchez, Tim Tebow, Greg McElroy and David Garrard. Rumors have also tied New York to interest in free agent Kevin Kolb.

And the competition between these mediocre talents is just as muddled as you'd expect, with Jets coach Rex Ryan saying over the weekend nobody is ahead of the pack to win the starting job.

"I don't think there's a clear-cut favorite," Ryan said via the New York Post. “I just think it's going to be competition from day one, and obviously Sanchez will take the first snap and things but that's all you can say. I believe Mark will play a lot better, but I also believe that there's going to be some probably stiffer competition than maybe there's been in the past."

Translation: Sanchez is the de facto starter and will be given the first shot at winning the job but can have his gig stolen if someone steps up in a big way -- only nobody will because there isn't anyone good enough on the roster to beat out the preconceived trust Rex has in the quarterback he drafted?

Whew. And, um, so ... nothing's changed?

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Euclis20 · Mar 25, 2013

Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Jets' ranking in points allowed in Rex' tenure: 1st, 6th, 20th, 20th.

Not sure I'm buying all the defensive genius stuff. Sure, his offense doesn't help out his D at all because it sucks. Still, his trend is not good.

Going a bit more in depth, here are FO's rankings for NYJ's defense over the last 4 years:

2009: 1st
2010: 5th
2011: 2nd
2012: 9th

crystalline · Apr 8, 2013

Revis has an incentive to be a good soldier, though, or his value on the market next year will be damaged. Can the Jets let him play this contract out or will it destroy their cap? If they can absorb it, the Jets might well decide their BATNA is to keep Revis this year, on his best behavior. If Rex is done after this year, he cares a lot about on-field performance this year.

Makes sense the Jets would play hardball in negotiations, especially before the draft.

dcmissle · Apr 9, 2013

I've always thought he's worth a first-round pick -- but no more than a first-round pick -- to the right team. And if I were running that team, I'm not sure I'd even attempt to extend him now.

But no more than a first-round pick. The Jets are in no-man's land. They have over-hyped an excellent player, who coincidentally has beat them like a drum in these set-tos over his contract.

The logical course may be for the Jets to get the most they can by draft time, and turn the page. It's not clear to me they are willing to do that.

Shelterdog · Apr 9, 2013

crystalline said:
Revis has an incentive to be a good soldier, though, or his value on the market next year will be damaged. Can the Jets let him play this contract out or will it destroy their cap? If they can absorb it, the Jets might well decide their BATNA is to keep Revis this year, on his best behavior. If Rex is done after this year, he cares a lot about on-field performance this year.

Makes sense the Jets would play hardball in negotiations, especially before the draft.

The money isn't that bad for Revis this year ($9 million) but If Revis leaves the Jets they still take a $9 million salary cap hit in 2013. And they can't franchise him so if he leaves for the highest bidder after this season at best they get the 97th pick in the 2014 draft as compensation.

SeanBerry · Apr 9, 2013

I really think the Jets will trade Revis to the TB. It will be a 1st rounder this year and a 7th or something and it will happen the Tuesday before the draft. As pft.com points out, he'll have to pass a physical before the trade so it can't happen right before the pick. Also, no one else seems that interested in Revis. It makes sense for the Jets to hold out but next week or so, they'll pull the trigger.

Jets signed TE Jeff Cumberland and Saftey Dawan Landry as well. OK moves I guess. Next year is going to be a disaster. I really hope Revis isn't here and we get the 13th overall pick to build around instead.

soxhop411 · Apr 12, 2013

While poking around the question of whether the Jets could be trying to include quarterback-of-all-tradesTim Tebow in the package (which would keep the Jets from cutting Tebow and seeing him sign with the Patriots), we tripped over a previously unknown nugget. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the discussions between the Jets and Bucs have included the possibility of the Buccaneers assuming the contract of quarterback Mark Sanchez.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/12/jets-could-unload-a-quarterback-as-part-of-revis-trade/

Old Fart Tree · Apr 12, 2013

That would be a frigging outstanding move for the jets. I hope like hell that they can't pull it off.

dcmissle · Apr 12, 2013

Now that would be an accomplishment, taking less in the way of draft comp but jettisoning Sanchez too.

I don't know whether Sanchez will be much good anywhere else, but I'm pretty persuaded he is done in NY.

Stitch01 · Apr 12, 2013

Someone taking Sanchez contract and the Jets being concerned about where Tebow will go after he's cut are both absolutely hilarious.

Super Nomario · Apr 12, 2013

Old Fart Tree said:
That would be a frigging outstanding move for the jets. I hope like hell that they can't pull it off.

dcmissle said:
Now that would be an accomplishment, taking less in the way of draft comp but jettisoning Sanchez too.

I don't know whether Sanchez will be much good anywhere else, but I'm pretty persuaded he is done in NY.

I think it sounds better than it is. The Jets would still be on the hook for any signing bonus money left, so it's not like they get off scot-free even if they trade him. It doesn't help them in 2013, because their other QB options also suck and their skill position players are awful, maybe the worst in the league. They clear 2013 cap space, but at this point in free agency it's too late to do a heck of a lot with it. I think I'd rather have picks, play out the year with Sanchez, and axe him at the end of the season.

dcmissle · Apr 12, 2013

The purported fear of Tebow > Pats is hilarious and, if true, preposterous.

soxfan121 · Apr 12, 2013

Not happening:

A trade of Sanchez would still count $8.9 million toward the Jets’ salary cap next season, and the team probably also would have to pay a sizable portion of the $8.25 million he’s guaranteed in 2013, said Andrew Brandt, a former NFL executive and now an ESPN business analyst.

I do buy the "package Tebow with Revis" idea...Tampa needs paying customers and a backup for Freeman. I can't see Tampa budging on their price for Revis though. They'd take Tebow as a throw-in (they have oodles of cap space) but they wouldn't PAY anything for the privilege of taking Tebow.

Dogman · Apr 12, 2013

Super Nomario said:
I think it sounds better than it is. The Jets would still be on the hook for any signing bonus money left, so it's not like they get off scot-free even if they trade him. It doesn't help them in 2013, because their other QB options also suck and their skill position players are awful, maybe the worst in the league. They clear 2013 cap space, but at this point in free agency it's too late to do a heck of a lot with it. I think I'd rather have picks, play out the year with Sanchez, and axe him at the end of the season.

So they are on the hook for signing bonus money. They would be off the hook for cap hits related to salary for the next 4 years with a very below average, high salaried turnover machine. Add in the fact that they will most likely receive from Tampa, if Sanchez is traded with Revis, a 1st and a 4th or 5th.

Nothing helps them in 2013, it's all about what helps them after this upcoming lost year.

They have to make this trade if it is on the table.

Edit: Why would they be on the hook for 8.9 mil next season? If traded, his bonus money accelerates to this cap year. I can understand paying some freight for this season, but why next year?

soxfan121 · Apr 12, 2013

dcmissle said:
The purported fear of Tebow > Pats is hilarious and, if true, preposterous.

You say this now but if you had my TARDIS...oh, the places we could go.

Slow day at PFT? Hmmm....how about - "Jets looking to trade Tebow AND Sanchez?" Run with it...

Super Nomario · Apr 12, 2013

Dogman2 said:
So they are on the hook for signing bonus money. They would be off the hook for cap hits related to salary for the next 4 years with a very below average, high salaried turnover machine.

Yeah, but they can get out of most of that by cutting him after the 2013 season.

Dogman2 said:
Add in the fact that they will most likely receive from Tampa, if Sanchez is traded with Revis, a 1st and a 4th or 5th.

They're going to get less from Tampa if they include Sanchez than if they don't.

Dogman2 said:
Nothing helps them in 2013, it's all about what helps them after this upcoming lost year.

I agree 100%, but that's why I wouldn't be in a rush to unload Sanchez either. The choice is between trading him now, or playing out the year and cutting him next year when the cap hit is manageable. You save a little more money in scenario A, but Tampa Bay isn't going to give you as many draft picks. Depending on the amount of money saved and the delta in draft picks offered, the rebuilding effort isn't necessarily accelerated by dealing Sanchez now.

dcmissle · Apr 12, 2013

However this turns out, Tebow has two things in spades that Sanchez is bereft of -- mental toughness and resilience. If these guys were pets rather than people, the SPCA would petition the team to keep the former and send the latter to Tampa.

soxfan121 · Apr 12, 2013

dcmissle said:
However this turns out, Tebow has two things in spades that Sanchez is bereft of -- mental toughness and resilience. If these guys were pets rather than people, the SPCA would petition the team to keep the former and send the latter to Tampa.

"That is literally the nicest thing anyone has said about me here in a long time."

Ed Hillel · Apr 12, 2013

ESPN has the headline "Jeff Garcia to Jets: Get Rid of Tebow Now". Is it bad that my first reading was that the Jets had signed Jeff Garcia, and my first reaction was that he'd instantly be their best quarterback?

Dogman · Apr 12, 2013

Super Nomario said:
Yeah, but they can get out of most of that by cutting him after the 2013 season.
They're going to get less from Tampa if they include Sanchez than if they don't.

I agree 100%, but that's why I wouldn't be in a rush to unload Sanchez either. The choice is between trading him now, or playing out the year and cutting him next year when the cap hit is manageable. You save a little more money in scenario A, but Tampa Bay isn't going to give you as many draft picks. Depending on the amount of money saved and the delta in draft picks offered, the rebuilding effort isn't necessarily accelerated by dealing Sanchez now.

I would think that if the Jets dump Sanchez in a trade and subsidize some of that cap hit, Tampa gets their needed backup for considerably less and may be enticed to throw in another pick based on that subsidy and experience (ha!).

So, I guess my question is, why would the Jets still get hit in 2014 if they trade Sanchez now? It seems that they would pay his cap hit in 2013 and unload his salary.

If it's true that they do get hit in 2014 if they trade him now then I agree that waiting is the best option.

mwonow · Apr 13, 2013

Dogman2 said:
I would think that if the Jets dump Sanchez in a trade and subsidize some of that cap hit, Tampa gets their needed backup for considerably less and may be enticed to throw in another pick based on that subsidy and experience (ha!).

So, I guess my question is, why would the Jets still get hit in 2014 if they trade Sanchez now? It seems that they would pay his cap hit in 2013 and unload his salary.

If it's true that they do get hit in 2014 if they trade him now then I agree that waiting is the best option.

I don't believe there's any scenario under which Sanchez and his contract have positive value - I think the Jets would either put a subsidy in for 2013 and receive a lesser package, or would be better off not complicating things if they really want a 1st for DR

PedroKsBambino · Apr 13, 2013

Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Well this is Rex, after all, one of the master self-promoters of our times. No one's seemed to really blame him for the offensive disasters of the last two season even though he's the HC; it's been Schotty, Sparano, and Sanchez who've taken all the blame. Why wouldn't he disavow the worst part of his team? He's not an idiot, he knows full well this is likely to be his last year in NY and his team's going to suck horribly. He's gotten this far in life by bullshitting his way around responsibility for poor performances, it makes sense to me he'd continue to do so.

I don't think that's true at all---I think many people are blaming him for the offense and rightly so. I'm not talking about talk radio and newspapers, who are focusing more on blaming the people you list---I'm talking about actual NFL writers, analysts, and such who follow the game more closely.

We'll find out what NFL execs think after he's fired, but I think this is a case where people are focusing on a media storyline. Rex owns both halves of the problem and no matter how much he or his agent leaks to some writers I am pretty confident NFL-types will see this clearly. So his best plan is to try and win some games...which I imagine he knows by now, too.

tims4wins · Apr 15, 2013

Revis trade talks on hold

soxhop411 · Apr 15, 2013

tims4wins said:
Revis trade talks on hold

trying to make the price higher?

mike freeman ‏@realfreemancbs41s
Bucs source: "Jets are trying to raise Revis asking price with this supposed suspension of trade talks."

Otis Foster · Apr 15, 2013

soxhop411 said:
trying to make the price higher?

mike freeman ‏@realfreemancbs41s
Bucs source: "Jets are trying to raise Revis asking price with this supposed suspension of trade talks."

Revis is a wasting asset. He's like a vacant airline seat as you near take-off. Take what you can get and call it a day. They're unlikely to see the playoffs with or without him.

mwonow · Apr 15, 2013

soxhop411 said:
trying to make the price higher?

mike freeman ‏@realfreemancbs41s
Bucs source: "Jets are trying to raise Revis asking price with this supposed suspension of trade talks."

I don't really get this. They only have one bidder. How does suspending trade talks drive the price up?

Morgan's Magic Snowplow · Apr 15, 2013

mwonow said:
I don't really get this. They only have one bidder. How does suspending trade talks drive the price up?

The Bucs should really just suspend talks themselves, at least until after the draft. I have a hard time understanding why they have even offered as much as they (reportedly) have, given that they are bidding against themselves and dealing with a team that really needs to make the trade.

mwonow · Apr 15, 2013

Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
The Bucs should really just suspend talks themselves, at least until after the draft. I have a hard time understanding why they have even offered as much as they (reportedly) have, given that they are bidding against themselves and dealing with a team that really needs to make the trade.

That's where I am, too. What's the value of Revis to the 2013 Jets? A more competitive team (but not a playoff spot), followed by a 3rd round comp pick in 2015. If I'm the Bucs, I'm offering that third in 2013, plus 1-2 conditionals based on playing time and resigning. If Revis comes back healthy, plays well and resigns with the Bucs, he's a valuable commodity, and the Jets should get paid; if one or both of those things don't happen, imo the Bucs don't want to have painted themselves into a corner...

dbn · Apr 15, 2013

As implied by mwonow, the Jets have no leverage only because there is no second bidder. That fact surprises me. If his trade-price drops, why wouldn't other teams be in? Are there just a lack of teams with the cap-space to acquire him who think they'll be competitive in 2013 after adding Revis?

Does anyone know what Revis' cap number will be for an acquiring team if they do not extend him?

edit: Not sure how accurate this list of remaining cap spaces is but decent+ teams with a lot of space include Cincinnati and Green Bay. Indy has a bit, as well.

SeanBerry · Apr 16, 2013

Bucs have the best pick slot compared to those teams but who knows? I still think Revis goes to TB.

Jets re-signed Calvin Pace today to a 1 year deal. I know Pace is nowhere near what he was but he is still a decent to moderate NFL player and sadly instantly helps.

glennhoffmania · Apr 19, 2013

Why Rex thinks this is a topic that he should comment on escapes me. Then again, in other news, water is still wet.

Plenty of people aren't happy about it, but no one's being as vocal as Jets coach and former Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan, who went off on a straight rant about the O's not moving their home game so the Ravens could kick off in Baltimore.

“Well, who really cares, you've got 81 at home, maybe you could have done the right thing and given one up and then played 82 on the road and then 80 at home,” Ryan said per Seth Waldman of the New York Daily-News. “I really don't think people are going to care about that game.

“It's not just my love of Baltimore, I do love Baltimore, but I love this New York area here better than I do Baltimore now. It's just the way it is. It's not just my loyalty to that fan base."

Link

Leather · Apr 19, 2013

Yea, fuck those fans who bought tickets to that game ahead of time!

What's stupid about his argument is that the Ravens getting to open at home represents entirely a ceremonial thing. The Ravens aren't losing any money (not materially, anyway) by playing their first game on the road; they still get 8 home games. Yet Rex thinks the Orioles should completely sacrifice a home game, and all of the revenue that entails, for nothing.

Popular Jock: "Hey, kid, gimme your lunch money!"
Mathlete: "Why?"
Jock: "'Cause I don't like what my mother packed me."
Mathlete: "No. I'm hungry."

Rex Ryan: "I can't believe that nerd didn't give my star linebacker his lunch money. He eats at school 5 times a week! What a selfish kid!"

dcmissle · Apr 20, 2013

glennhoffmania said:
Why Rex thinks this is a topic that he should comment on escapes me. Then again, in other news, water is still wet.

Link

Showalter can be a dick, but this is awesome:

"Orioles manager Buck Showalter says if Ryan is concerned with anything about Baltimore, he ought to be concerned about the Jets’ meeting with Baltimore this season.
'I think I’d be a little more concerned about November 24 when the Jets come here and try to figure out a way to beat the Ravens, wouldn’t you?,' Showalter said, via CSNBaltimore.com. 'I’d think that would be a little bit more of a challenge. I try to stay out of things I don’t know about. Like I don’t know about the NFL schedule and the NFL challenges. So that would be my advice. I would stay in what is my area of supposed expertise.'"

Van Everyman · Apr 20, 2013

Can someone explain to me why both games can't be played the same time? It's not like they play in the same park.

RedOctober3829 · Apr 20, 2013

Van Everyman said:
Can someone explain to me why both games can't be played the same time? It's not like they play in the same park.

The two stadiums are in close proximity making parking a nightmare.

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