FWIW, Ja scored 38 to Tatum’s 37 last Thursday. But he definitely gets up for these games.
JT talked about this with Reddick. JT received more votes than Kyrie but because his 69 votes were split between guard and forward, Kyrie made it because he had more guard votes than JT and Paul George made it because he had more forward votes than JT. https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/06/15/jayson-tatum-misses-out-on-25m-because-more-all-nba-voters-put-paul-george-at-f-than-g/
He doesn't but we have to have two guards on the teams. The better question is whether Tatum should be behind the likes of Durant, James, DeRozan
Durant yes, LeBron no, DeRozan is the usual hard question of how much defense matters relative to extremely elite offense.
Why you sleeping on Lebron?
I'm not really questioning it, but there was a thread last season talking about how Tatum made a leap and I suggested maybe it was just a stretch of good games. Players do have them.
The Celtics get the benefit of ~ an extra $8MM/yr to spend, while the CBA/media get the blame. Tatum getting left off on a technicality wasn't the worst outcome for CAP purposes.
That's true. But there are a host of guys who will get 1st and 2nd team consideration that also have played a lot less than Tatum. Ja, Giannis, Luka, KD, Embiid, Butler
That's the thing with young players. If it is a stretch of good games, we won't know until the good stretch ends. Tatum had some significant room for growth as a playmaker so what we are seeing could very well be real but these "leveling up" posts happen all the time.
It was like an (accidental?) shammgod through a double-team. I've certainly never seen that before.
Yeah, it actually didn't even look intentional. I thought the shamgod was opposite hand, that was just a sick crossover dribble.
funny, I like Booker better now than when he was on those tankers putting up hollow point totals
Jordan was a prolific scorer early because nobody gave a fuck if he shot a million times early in his career. In his first 345 games, he shot 8,025 times. That's 24 shots per game.
This is not fair to Jordan. Part of why nobody gave a fuck about him hogging the ball is because he still shot 52% and got to the line 10 times a game which is really really good.
Chicago was indeed a pretty crappy team that made the playoffs. Because eight of the eleven teams in the conference went to the playoffs, the Cavs were only shitty in the sense that the rest of the roster sucked and LBJ had to drag them to the playoffs. In his fourth season he dragged an NBDL team to the NBA Finals.
Jayson Tatum matched up with Kevin Durant on 38 possessions and allowed 9 points
That really blew my mind. In a close game where every possession mattered, he allowed 9 points on 48 possessions against two of the best shot makers we’ve ever seen.
They also were very effective in double teaming KD and the other players didn't make them pay for it.
Beal has been the rumored draw for years and there have been Donovan Mitchell flirtations. Maybe JT eventually taps that Duke Rolodex?
Yeah anytime KD got a mismatch they threw well timed doubles at him, but the Nets did shoot 44% from three. Quite a few off of those came off of doubling KD, he had 8 assists on 9 potential ones.
I think yes, but more with the generation of guys who are all under contract for awhile right now.
It’s a fake quote, it’s that Twitter accounts shtick.
Yeah, Jordan shooting even contested shots on those Bulls teams was still almost certainly a better shot than anything taken by anyone else on his squad. It's not just that his teammates weren't great; it's that Jordan WAS.
It got me too lol, I sent it to two people before I realized.
Yeah, Jordan was really an outlier in his ability to make contested jumpers at an efficient rate while shooting at an incredible volume. The closest comp I think would be Gervin, who had some really remarkable seasons, like in 79-80 when he shot 53% from the field on 25 fga per game (and averaged 33 ppg). Compare that with the year Kobe averaged 35 ppg (45% on 27 fga per game) and you see the difference.
Is there any place where they account for postseason games? It's kind of maddening that Tatum's two most important 50 point games get treated as if they don't count...
The most frustrating thing is that the play-in game doesn’t even count for postseason stats. It’s just in the void
Murray's done it twice. Mitchell did it twice.
I saw something today that Beal is trying to get to Philadelphia in the offseason to play with Harden and Embiid. Maybe the Tatum/Beal bond isn't as strong as it has been reported.
Actually, I'm OK with that. His best days are behind him
Yeah, I have an irrational hope that the Celtics pursue a Zach Lavine S&T this offseason, not Beal. I can think of a lot of reasons that won't work out but I can dream.
He is either getting 5 for 246 from Washington or 4 for 179 from someone else. (TBH, not sure how sign-and-trades work here). No part of me wants that.
