Neither it nor it's proud parents knew that one day it would become famous.This thread was born on a day that the team was 2 games under .500 in April.
Neither it nor it's proud parents knew that one day it would become famous.This thread was born on a day that the team was 2 games under .500 in April.
An Easter miracle!Neither it nor it's proud parents knew that one day it would become famous.
With the way the team has been playing lately, do you think they should be looking to sell right now?The team is still two games under .500.
Just saying.
Depends if they can sell high on Pivetta or Wacha or HillWith the way the team has been playing lately, do you think they should be looking to sell right now?
Selling high is prudent, no?With the way the team has been playing lately, do you think they should be looking to sell right now?
itsNeither it nor it's proud parents knew that one day it would become famous.
Mild dyslexia. I know the rule, I tell the fingers, I think it goes right, but it does not. You're welcome to correct it any time, but, FWIW, it's not going to improve.
No.With the way the team has been playing lately, do you think they should be looking to sell right now?
Just think of how much value everyone that people wanted traded in April has added in the last 2 months!SELL EVERYONE!!!!
I hope then that if the Sox go 4-10 in those games that you will not be quick to say I Told You SoIf the 14 games against the Rays and the mfy doesn't go well this thread could be relevant again. I am not rooting against the Sox, but I feel the need to point out your snark might be a bit too soon and in any case not needed.
Teams have to play 76 division games so since we’re almost to the halfway point of the season, NY has had basically the correct percentage of in-division games so far. BOS’s schedule is quite backloaded, I’ve said it before but the schedule makers did a very bad job this season.Looking at the expanded standings, what's most incredible about the Yankees' start to this season is that they're 26-12 (.684, or 111-win pace) against the AL East. Not only have they played a TON of games within the division, but they've absolutely crushed it. I wonder what will happen with them once they start playing the lesser teams in other divisions. Will they play at an .800 pace then? Or will they still come back to earth because no team can win 125 games in a regular season?
That makes sense. I’m just amazed at how well the Yanks have done within a very tough division. They’re having a helluva season so far.Teams have to play 76 division games so since we’re almost to the halfway point of the season, NY has had basically the correct percentage of in-division games so far. BOS’s schedule is quite backloaded, I’ve said it before but the schedule makers did a very bad job this season.
All of the bridge jumpers will be back looking to finally make this thread relevant.Truth is, this thread was never relevant. It was started on May 24th, just 16 days after opening day. The thread was a complete shit show for a month and then it lay dormant for another month. Now, two months after it's premature conception, the Sox are in second place in the division, sit in the top WC position and have the 3rd best record in the league. Make no mistake there is work to be done and while all of the doomsdayers point to the slew of divisional games left to play, I ask if it's not unreasonable to see opportunity there. No matter how you feel about him, ATM the team seems to have found a guy who looks like the lead off hitter that they have been looking for. No matter how you feel about him, ATM the team seems to have found a guy who might be ready to assume the closer's role. All of a sudden, first base and right field aren't as big of a problem as they were. There's still room for improvement, but Franchy and RFsnyder have helped stabilize those positions. Offensively, everybody in the lineup has been contributing lately, the defense seems much improved, oh and that new guy at second seems to have shown some improvement. Pivetta, Wacha, Winckowski.... Nice job holding the rotation together fellas.If the 14 games against the Rays and the mfy doesn't go well this thread could be relevant again. I am not rooting against the Sox, but I feel the need to point out your snark might be a bit too soon and in any case not needed.
This clarification is most appreciated.I am not rooting against the Sox
Disagree. The Sox are sellers. They've been marketing some serious whoop-ass, and even giving it away for free now and again.All of the bridge jumpers will be back looking to finally make this thread relevant.
More seriously, there is still a long way to go. It's possible epic-nose dives or injuries will make the thread relevant by the ASB, but the same can be said for any team. Apart from that, the Sox positioned themselves in the standings to be competitive in the WC scrum, and their showing against the tougher teams between now and the ASB will probably be a reasonable bellwether for the season. Their fate is in their hands.Sure things can turn to shit, it's a long season. And the fact that it's a LONG season is exactly why the Boston Red Sox do not become sellers just 16 days in. Is this level of play sustainable for the rest of the season? Probably not. Is it reasonable think that they can continue to play a better brand of baseball and remain in the WC race? I think so.
I agree with the general point, but it invites an interesting question. Suppose you somehow knew your team was going to suck out of the gate and then find its stride, while your division favorite/rival was going to go on an epic tear.Teams have to play 76 division games so since we’re almost to the halfway point of the season, NY has had basically the correct percentage of in-division games so far. BOS’s schedule is quite backloaded, I’ve said it before but the schedule makers did a very bad job this season.
How much of their great turnaround is based on not playing as many games against the division?I agree with the general point, but it invites an interesting question. Suppose you somehow knew your team was going to suck out of the gate and then find its stride, while your division favorite/rival was going to go on an epic tear.
In that scenario, do you want to face in-division rivals more often in your crappy beginning, equally throughout, or more often later in the season?
I am not sure.
I don’t know, with Matt Barnes’ ERA (7.94) at close to the same as hos AAV ($8.0m) , I don’t think there are going to be any buyers.The fortunate thing is they have some pieces they can sell no matter their record (Diekman, Hernandez, maybe Hill/Wacha, maybe Barnes) no matter if they’re going for it or rebuilding.
I am frustrated, too, but it’s still much too early to give up on this season. After a long winter, the first weeks of baseball are always like this. It makes me think of Chris Shelton and Eric Thames; we thought they might be gods.
There are areas of immediate concern (Matt Barnes, for one), but the team will get hot and come July we’ll be around .500, not .385. We’ll also have three times as much information to go on.
This thread was very relevant given how well the Al east was doing the first month or so. There was no question that certain guys would turn it around, but it was fair to question if the sox could make up the ground when those guys did turn it around. I will admit I didn't see the Sox turning it around to such an insane degree, but it still didn't make this thread irrelevant.All of the bridge jumpers will be back looking to finally make this thread relevant.Truth is, this thread was never relevant. It was started on May 24th, just 16 days after opening day. The thread was a complete shit show for a month and then it lay dormant for another month. Now, two months after it's premature conception, the Sox are in second place in the division, sit in the top WC position and have the 3rd best record in the league. Make no mistake there is work to be done and while all of the doomsdayers point to the slew of divisional games left to play, I ask if it's not unreasonable to see opportunity there. No matter how you feel about him, ATM the team seems to have found a guy who looks like the lead off hitter that they have been looking for. No matter how you feel about him, ATM the team seems to have found a guy who might be ready to assume the closer's role. All of a sudden, first base and right field aren't as big of a problem as they were. There's still room for improvement, but Franchy and RFsnyder have helped stabilize those positions. Offensively, everybody in the lineup has been contributing lately, the defense seems much improved, oh and that new guy at second seems to have shown some improvement. Pivetta, Wacha, Winckowski.... Nice job holding the rotation together fellas.
Sure things can turn to shit, it's a long season. And the fact that it's a LONG season is exactly why the Boston Red Sox do not become sellers just 16 days in. Is this level of play sustainable for the rest of the season? Probably not. Is it reasonable think that they can continue to play a better brand of baseball and remain in the WC race? I think so.
Perhaps, but you seem to have reveled in their troubles earlier and appear to be looking forward to a hard road against the Rays and Yankees. I am not sure if you are a Red Sox fan or not based on your posts. Which is fine, we are welcoming to all fans here. But perhaps you should identify your allegiance so we can tell if you are just disappointed in the teams' makeup and progress, or if this is what you are hoping forThis thread was very relevant given how well the Al east was doing the first month or so. There was no question that certain guys would turn it around, but it was fair to question if the sox could make up the ground when those guys did turn it around. I will admit I didn't see the Sox turning it around to such an insane degree, but it still didn't make this thread irrelevant.
No, it really wasn't. Deciding that a team with as much talent as the Red Sox should be "sellers" based on the first month or so is a knee-jerk reactionary type of thread ... not one based on logic or historical perspective.This thread was very relevant given how well the Al east was doing the first month or so.
And thinking the Sox would rebound and climb out of their hole didn't seem too logical given how the rest of the AL east was playing. As for historical how many teams that started ten and ninteen make the playoffs? How many win the world series?No, it really wasn't. Deciding that a team with as much talent as the Red Sox should be "sellers" based on the first month or so is a knee-jerk reactionary type of thread ... not one based on logic or historical perspective.
Here's an interesting article that comes close to answering your question. It's notes the teams with the slowest starts at the 25, 50 and 81 game marks to make the playoffs. For the record the Sox were 10-15 after 25 games and 23-27 after 50 games. Also for the record once again, this thread was started after a 7-9 start.And thinking the Sox would rebound and climb out of their hole didn't seem too logical given how the rest of the AL east was playing. As for historical how many teams that started ten and ninteen make the playoffs? How many win the world series?
Logic had nothing to do with it. You lost your nerve because the Sox gave up 3 in the bottom of the 10th to lose a game in Tampa.And thinking the Sox would rebound and climb out of their hole didn't seem too logical given how the rest of the AL east was playing.
Add that Nick Pivetta wasn't going to remain a pitcher with a 10.03 ERA, but rather pitch like an All StarLogic had nothing to do with it. You lost your nerve because the Sox gave up 3 in the bottom of the 10th to lose a game in Tampa.
We didn’t know about 10,000 things on April 24, like:
1. How great the Yankee first half would be
2. Key injuries to Rays and BJ’s
3. Emergence of pitching assets: Schreiber, Wacha, Houck, Winck
4. Contributions of Duran, Franchy and Refsnyder
5. Story could hit the ball (after he made peace with his Texas roots)
6. This team made great strides in defense
Frankly, I don’t see how logic played any part in waving the white flag on April 24.
The thread was started April 24, based on an earlier post in a game thread. Even as an "in the event" thread, it was far too earlyI don't think the thread was ever "who should we trade now that we are sellers". More like "who would we trade in the event that we become sellers. Which was a perfectly reasonable scenario at the time. I'm glad it doesn't look like that will come to fruition, barring a disaster over the next 4 weeks.
It seems there is a simple solution. If you don't like the topic of a particular thread then don't post. Moondog has it right. Becoming sellees see.ed more likely at the point that the thread was created and it led to some interesting conversations. You are not the thread police.The thread was started April 24, based on an earlier post in a game thread. Even as an "in the event" thread, it was far too early
Or, you can stop polluting thread after thread with this nonsense, and stop with the defense of this ridiculous thread. You may or may not mean to, but you are coming across as a troll. The “I’m not rooting against the Red Sox but if they lose a bunch of games in a row, they’re going to be just as bad off as they were at the start of the season” only needed to be said the first dozen or so times once the team started rolling. I, for one, first mocked that trope a month or so ago. Now it just seems like you’re enjoying pissing people off. The Sox keep winning but you keeping banging the same old sky-is-falling drum.It seems there is a simple solution. If you don't like the topic of a particular thread then don't post. Moondog has it right. Becoming sellees see.ed more likely at the point that the thread was created and it led to some interesting conversations. You are not the thread police.
Thread police??? Now THERE'S an oldie but goodie!It seems there is a simple solution. If you don't like the topic of a particular thread then don't post. Moondog has it right. Becoming sellees see.ed more likely at the point that the thread was created and it led to some interesting conversations. You are not the thread police.
You do realize there have been many posters who have participated in this thread. There is a difference between weighing in on the topic of a thread and debating a threads need to exist. And for the record I have not been banging the sky is falling drum. I disageee with some of Cora's moves, but overall I am thrilled with how the team is doing.Or, you can stop polluting thread after thread with this nonsense, and stop with the defense of this ridiculous thread. You may or may not mean to, but you are coming across as a troll. The “I’m not rooting against the Red Sox but if they lose a bunch of games in a row, they’re going to be just as bad off as they were at the start of the season” only needed to be said the first dozen or so times once the team started rolling. I, for one, first mocked that trope a month or so ago. Now it just seems like you’re enjoying pissing people off. The Sox keep winning but you keeping banging the same old sky-is-falling drum.
Yes, yes you have.You do realize there have been many posters who have participated in this thread. There is a difference between weighing in on the topic of a thread and debating a threads need to exist. And for the record I have not been banging the sky is falling drum. I disageee with some of Cora's moves, but overall I am thrilled with how the team is doing.
Would you care to present evidence? I have criticize Cora and I have pointed out about 2 to 4 weeks ago it was much too early to breathe easy. Also I agree with many posters on this board that the 14 games against the Yanks and Rays can possibly determine which direction Bloom goes. None of that is saying the sky is falling.Yes, yes you have.
this seems to be consensus. other than one person’sopinionstatements to the contrary.
I am, though. If it were solely up to me, you would have been gone weeks ago but I have been inexplicably overruled on that thus far. I am locking this thread though, which indeed never needed to be started and is now going again for no reason but your inability to admit you were wrong then and you are still wrong.It seems there is a simple solution. If you don't like the topic of a particular thread then don't post. Moondog has it right. Becoming sellees see.ed more likely at the point that the thread was created and it led to some interesting conversations. You are not the thread police.