Game 1 vs. Philadelphia—Just Win
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Why is Smart even in there for that play? I love Marcus, but he shouldn’t be handling the ball on a must score possession off a timeout.
The lack of focus and maturity with the Celtics is fucking maddening. Like I said in the OP, don’t take any team lightly. No fucking defense all night long.
Steph Curry...
Jimmy Butler...
James Harden...
Tatum can't do what they do...
They want the ball and want the moment - in the 4th quarter - and they take it.
Tatum doesn't want it.
That possession where Brogdan throws the ball to Maxey?
Go watch that...
That's Tatum's shot to take. He needs to make sure everyone gets out of his way and makes that basket to seal the victory.
He's afraid --- I don't know what you people are watching if you can't see that.
The most troubling sequence to me was the one that ended with the shot clock violation non-call Maxey layup.
Brown could have taken the ball to the hole against Harden, but held up, retreated (probably to kill clock), and then everyone passed it around like they didn't want to take the shot.
They looked tentative. I want to say scared, but that's a hard thing to assume. Whatever the reason, though, pretty much everyone on the floor had a chance and didn't take it.
Brown could have taken the ball to the hole against Harden, but held up, retreated (probably to kill clock), and then everyone passed it around like they didn't want to take the shot.
They looked tentative. I want to say scared, but that's a hard thing to assume. Whatever the reason, though, pretty much everyone on the floor had a chance and didn't take it.
Where to make dinner reservations in Cancun.
Check your sarcasm meter. I've been highly critical of the teams focus and discipline and their belief in their invincibility
They yield the perimeter like it’s fucking November. Is this really the defense or are they just completely lazy and uncoachable?
Yeah you're right they kept the same team, elevated the assistant coach and as a result they just went soft.
That's definitely what happened.
Not some natural sports variance everyone us grasping to fit a narrative to.
Bingo. That Brogdon turnover is one of the most fucking inexplicable things I have ever seen. It’s disrespectful to idiots to call it idiotic.
For one, the shot clock is expiring..no one is getting a shot off at that point. For another, theres no one fucking there and no one was there most of the possession.
I just don’t understand how the fuck you could do something that dumb in that situation. Just hold onto the ball and eat it, don’t fire it into the backcourt
There were a ton of fouls that simply weren't called tonite.. it doesn't mean there wasn't any contact. The refs were absolutely horrible tonight.
First half that had only two free throws is an indication of how messed up it was. It's not like there weren't fouls that could've been called... they just didn't.
Then when they found their whistles in the fourth quarter they were even worse.
I give a ton of credit to the Sixers in that possession. They were right in the grill of every player who touched the ball.
I don’t mind Reggie as a color commentator guy.
I just want to know if we can hire Nick Nurse.
I just want to know if we can hire Nick Nurse.
Turnovers are part of basketball - they happen to each and every team, each game. Smart's were bad as were Brown's but those sorts of fumbles happen pretty regularly in the playoffs. That Brogdon one - and I don't think it reflects on him as a player overall - it was just a brainfart - was remarkable though. I can't recall that sort of late game execution fail in a long time.
Yeah ..he was fucking going to the basket looking for the pass from Brogdon
But yeah.. "he doesn't want it".. sure
Jaylen and Jason have been one of the winningest duos in the regular season and playoffs EVER.. but he doesn't want it.
Horford on Harden with the game on the line is an odd choice, to say the least.
And just because you're too stubborn to see what's right in front of you - doesn't make it false.
Go watch the possession.
It's Tatum's possession.
He didn't want it.
I think you’re really missing the plot here is that’s your assessment. That play was DOA. It was a shit ATO from Mazzulla…which is becoming a common theme of his this playoffs
His teammates fucked him there, mostly Jaylen, who turned down the 3, then got off balance and floated the ball back to I think Tatum with barely any time left to do anything.
Tatum should not be immune from criticism becasue he puts up numbers. That dumbo play where Brogden threw it to Philly started with Tatum not shooting. And he had a couple of soft turnovers when doubled.
None of us that remember talk about Bird or Pierce;s numbers, we remember guys who did not shy from the moment.
That said the team D is far more to blame than Tatum, he should not have to rescue them.
None of us that remember talk about Bird or Pierce;s numbers, we remember guys who did not shy from the moment.
That said the team D is far more to blame than Tatum, he should not have to rescue them.
Was great, around 5 min I suggested Js, Brogdon, TL, and .... for the final rotation
CJM should be texting BS during the gamee for tips
Or they can just double him as he comes over half court and make somebody else beat them. It happened with Trae Young too.
This is such a pathetic post.
For years the narrative was Tatum ISOs at the end of game didn't work. Now they try to run their offense in the final minutes and Tatum isn't an alpha anymore.
What have any of those guys you mentioned won? Why does he want to be like Jimmy Butler? Tatum has already accomplished more in his career than Jimmy or Harden. I'd take him any day of the week.
I'm sorry he doesn't pass your weird manly alpha shot taker test.
I am not saying anything bad about the Celtics that possession. That’s the one that ended with Harden fucking hacking Tatum and getting no call. Situation reversed and Harden is crying in the corner and sucking his thumb while wildly gesturing at the refs
Dude. Step away from the keyboard. Are you seriously saying that Harden is now the king of big moments? Have you EVER watched him in the playoffs other than tonight? He might be one of the least clutch superstars in NBA history.
I watched the whole game - your inference that Tatum was "scared" is completely asinine and goes against everything we've seen from the guy in 5 years of playoff basketball - including tonight. James Harden? Like are you serious? He had a hot shooting night helped by our poor defense. He's not better than Tatum or less "scared" than Tatum.
Go take a walk or something and stop trying to psychoanalyze Tatum just because they made some mistakes and lost a basketball game.
How do you propose they get better at that?
Joe's defense is the same, switch everything. So every fucking team is dragging Al out to the 3 point line, having his man set the screen, and you end up with Al covering Harden or Maxey or Trae or Murray..Over and over again. If Al's guy goes out to set the screen, they need to start switching on the back end, and let Jaylen or Tatum or Smart or White or Brogdon pick up the ballhandler on the switch.
As soon as Harden or whoever has Horford on them, he can't get in their face, because they'll go by him, so they just shoot a wide open 3, lather, rinse, repeat.
I think there's supposed to be somebody at the top of the key there... but with time running down I think every went to try and get the board.
Doc: "The officials let us play tonight."
Doc: "Who wants to see a FT shooting contest?" Your two best players shoot endless FTs every game!!
Doc: "Who wants to see a FT shooting contest?" Your two best players shoot endless FTs every game!!
Since game 2 of the last series they have given up 130, 121, 119, 120 & 119 points, all more than any game in last years playoff run. It’s tough to win when you give up that many points. They are very easy to score on and are not defending screens well at all. I do think some of it is effort but think it goes a bit deeper than that at this point. Ime had them buy in on the defensive end and it doesn’t appear CJM has. Would rather just win in a shootout.
We have to sit here and watch people who dont know what they are watching incorrectly drag players for less. Brogdon thought there was another shooter relocating to that spot but nobody else thought that way. I don't think anyone screwed him. He just misread the play.
Just because you keep saying “narrative” doesn’t mean the team didn’t spit the bit tonight.
It would be nice if maybe Tucker got called just once for setting NFL type blocks to set those screens.. constantly was out there like a fullback creating space for Harden.
I don’t understand the reflexive need for everyone to demand positivity after a loss but aim with you fully here. Mooch said up above that any other wing in the league switches with Tatum and I can’t disagree with that more. He was crazy hot in the first half and he does a hell of a job rebounding in a team that often plays undersized but he just can’t consistently get shots when the whole defense is keyed on him the way other top wings do. He is able to do it sometimes, for sure, but we have seen it in the run last year and this year as well.
The only thing separating this Celtics group from the Bruins is that Jimmy Butler missed a 3 last year. They’ve got the same DNA