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Bailey10

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Palace-Leicester is a great game for neutrals. Pardew said it would be impossible for this game to finish 0-0. 
 

blueguitar322

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Hammers! Fast start.
 
This year is the most un-Chelsea, un-Mourinho year ever for them. 18 goals allowed in 9 games, 17 minutes.
 

blueguitar322

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Referee in the Chelsea game with a great showing there. Waits and deliberates with the linesman before showing the justified second yellow to Matic.
 

sachmoney

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This is the weakest Chelsea side mentally that I've ever seen. It's wonderful to see them fail. Gotta wonder if Abramovich has his eyes on Pep now after Guardiola said that he wants to go to a London club.
 

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Just a despicable side. I love seeing them buried in yellow for dissent, now they're resorting to dives and faking injuries. 
 

swiftaw

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Mourinho is clearly texting instructions to his assistant on the bench. Not sure if that is allowed but it shouldn't be.
 

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swiftaw said:
Mourinho is clearly texting instructions to his assistant on the bench. Not sure if that is allowed but it shouldn't be.
Our (Kaiserslautern) coach was sent off a few weeks ago, too. He also was in contact with his assistants and someone asked if this is allowed/forbidden. German reports said the rules say you are only forbidden to have contact, if you were banned prior to the match. If you´re send off in a match, this isn´t a problem.
But as well as Kaiserslautern, Mourinho+Chelsea lost, so nobody will complain anyways :)
 

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Watching on NBCSN and I don't get why Kyle Martino is saying Cesc should get "the benefit of the doubt" on the offside call. I usually like him as a commentator, but if any part of the player is ahead of the defender - whether it's a knee or hand - then offside is the correct call. Or maybe I'm just wrong on the rule.
 

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I felt the argument from the booth (that Martino seems to be latching to) was that if the linesman isn't sure he must keep the flag down. It was too close to call in realtime, therefore he couldn't have been sure, therefore he must keep the flag down.
 
I don't agree with that at all, but I think that's what they were trying to say. There are some really, really shitty color guys with NBC- I'm glad the rest of their presentation is top class.
 

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blueguitar322 said:
Watching on NBCSN and I don't get why Kyle Martino is saying Cesc should get "the benefit of the doubt" on the offside call. I usually like him as a commentator, but if any part of the player is ahead of the defender - whether it's a knee or hand - then offside is the correct call. Or maybe I'm just wrong on the rule.
A hand actually doesn't put you offside. It's only if a part of your body that can play the ball is beyond the defender that makes you offside.

Of course, in reality it's extremely difficult to be looking at the attacker, the last (non-keeper) defender, and the player making the pass at the same time, much less determine exactly which part of the body was beyond the defender.
 

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SoxFanInCali said:
A hand actually doesn't put you offside. It's only if a part of your body that can play the ball is beyond the defender that makes you offside.

Of course, in reality it's extremely difficult to be looking at the attacker, the last (non-keeper) defender, and the player making the pass at the same time, much less determine exactly which part of the body was beyond the defender.
Thanks - that makes sense. In this case, both Cesc's knee and hand were offside.
 

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Deulofeu has been Everton's worst player - leaving him on while Lennon exits for Mirallas is perplexing to say the least
 

sachmoney

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PedroSpecialK said:
Deulofeu has been Everton's worst player - leaving him on while Lennon exits for Mirallas is perplexing to say the least
Not to mention his "theatrics" that have gone unpunished.
 
blueguitar322 said:
Apparently Wenger's instructions were for Flamini to play striker and Giroud defender...
To be fair, Giroud is excellent at clearing balls in defensive positions.
 

Terras

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Arsenal and Everton put on a fun game, even with a scoreless second half. Sloppy at the end but lots of chances and lots of cover your butt moments.
 

blueguitar322

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Phew.
 
Giroud, Ozil and Cazorla were all very good. Cech made two immense saves. Although despite the nerves at the end and some typical Arsenal mistakes (pushing too many men forward late in the game when up a goal) I felt like Arsenal were definitely the stronger team. 20 shots vs 10, 13 chances created vs 6, 2 goals + 2 posts vs 1+1.
 
Credit to Everton for the fight. I've always loved Roberto Martinez. They've now played Soton, City, Tottenham, Chelsea, Swansea, Liverpool, United and Arsenal - that's the entire top 8 from last year in their first 10 games. I fully expect them to take tons of points from the next couple months against significantly weaker opposition.
 

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blueguitar322 said:
Watching on NBCSN and I don't get why Kyle Martino is saying Cesc should get "the benefit of the doubt" on the offside call. I usually like him as a commentator, but if any part of the player is ahead of the defender - whether it's a knee or hand - then offside is the correct call. Or maybe I'm just wrong on the rule.
 
No, the rule is that if the linesman is in doubt, the call favors the attacker.
 

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Classic Chelsea, lose, then complain that the linesman should have made a wrong call because he couldn't possibly have really known he was making the right one.
 
Also, the "benefit of the doubt" is made up, it isn't part of the rules. If, as here the linesman sees any part of the body (excepting the arms) beyond the 2nd to last defender the player is offside.
 

blueguitar322

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Nick Kaufman said:
 
No, the rule is that if the linesman is in doubt, the call favors the attacker.
 
But in this case the linesman did not doubt that he had made the correct call. And replay seems to be on his side, if only by an inch. But that's still offside.
 

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This first 45 minutes of Sunderland vs. Newcastle, may have set back soccers appeal by 20 years.
 

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Snoozer of a match so far in the Manchester derby. Both sides playing two defensive midfielders and neither with attacking fullbacks.
Meanwhile Spurs/Bournemouth is entertaining, each defense has been a tire fire with Bournemouth being the worse
 

sachmoney

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United defense is not good (see terrible) and without Agüero and Silva, City has not been able to do nothing to exploit it. It also doesn't help that half of the attacking players seem somewhat disinterested. Pellegrini cannot be happy with this performance so far.
 

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Meanwhile, Artur Boric has taken it upon himself to help Harry Kane get back into form.

2/3rds of the Kane hat trick off of miserable play by Boric
 

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Yeah, regression to the mean is likely.  We saw that with Sanchez this year where he was something like 0 for his first 20 shots and then scored 5 goals in 2 games.  Kane is not as good as Sanchez and he won't break out with a hat trick but he's going to get some goals eventually.
 
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