2014 Miami Dolphins: Raw Doggin' It
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Clears Cleaver said:
Sherman needed to be replaced at OC, but it complicates Tannehill's evaluation. In tracking a QB's progress, it's much easier to do when the major variables are controlled. Changing your offensive system is a major freakin' variable. It could explain some of the regression we've seen, and provides hope that Tannehill improves drastically as the season progresses.
The Mike Wallace touchdown exemplifies his new attitude this season. He powered through three defenders at the goal line for his TD on that screen pass. Just sheer will power got him in. Great to see that type of intensity from a guy known his whole career as a finesse player.
Lamar Miller looked great again and racked up two scores at the goal line, as he too continues to look like a different player, breaking tackles like he never did his first two seasons. This team will have a very potent 1-2 punch when Moreno is back and healthy.
Tannehill looked a lot better, but then again, playing the Raiders will do that.
If a team could ever use a bye week, it's the fins. Albert got nicked up this game. Misi, Pouncey, and Jones should all be back for the GB game.
2-2 at the bye is probably what a lot of us had the fins pinned for, and is probably more impressive than it looks on paper due to all the players Miami has been missing.
Lamar Miller looked great again and racked up two scores at the goal line, as he too continues to look like a different player, breaking tackles like he never did his first two seasons. This team will have a very potent 1-2 punch when Moreno is back and healthy.
Tannehill looked a lot better, but then again, playing the Raiders will do that.
If a team could ever use a bye week, it's the fins. Albert got nicked up this game. Misi, Pouncey, and Jones should all be back for the GB game.
2-2 at the bye is probably what a lot of us had the fins pinned for, and is probably more impressive than it looks on paper due to all the players Miami has been missing.
Crap, that's right. Second bust. Ugh.smastroyin said:
So reshad, pouncey, misi, Shelley smith, McCain,...anyone else coming back in two weeks?
Read will Davis was a disaster this week. Ugh. They need a slot CB
That's fair. I need to watch the 30 min version of this game. Seems like they ran well, too.pdaj said:
Clears Cleaver said:
Jimmy Wilson will be moving back to slot CB once Reshad returns. It actually improves the whole secondary, as Delmas will shift over to FS and play center field, Jones will come back at SS, and Wilson will man the slot.
I feel like the impact that Jelani Jenkins has had on the defense thus far cannot be overstated. At aguably Miami's greatest position of need, he has not only stepped in and played well for Ellerbe, but he's absolutely flourished.
With an overall grade of +8.0, he's currently PFF's #1 rated 4-3 outside linebacker. I feel that 4 weeks in, it's safe to say that his play isn't a fluke. He may not finish the season as the highest rated linebacker in the league, but he's shown himself to a very valuable asset to this team.
It's nice to see a mid-late round draft pick really blossom. The last guy I can remember really taking off would be Reshad Jones, being a 5th rounder a few years back. Guys like Long and Pouncey have developed into Pro-Bowlers, but you really expect that out of your first rounders. When you get that level of production in the later rounds, that's how you build a contender.
With an overall grade of +8.0, he's currently PFF's #1 rated 4-3 outside linebacker. I feel that 4 weeks in, it's safe to say that his play isn't a fluke. He may not finish the season as the highest rated linebacker in the league, but he's shown himself to a very valuable asset to this team.
It's nice to see a mid-late round draft pick really blossom. The last guy I can remember really taking off would be Reshad Jones, being a 5th rounder a few years back. Guys like Long and Pouncey have developed into Pro-Bowlers, but you really expect that out of your first rounders. When you get that level of production in the later rounds, that's how you build a contender.
I don't think it's a coincidence that Jones and Jenkins were also two of the rare times Ireland used a mid-late rd. pick on a productive SEC player.
I know he picked a few in his final draft (along with Jenkins), but it always boggled my mind how ireland could go 5 years picking just 2 players from the nations best conference. When your picking later in the draft why wouldn't you take some chances were there is the best athletes and competition.
Needless to say I was estatic with the way Tannehill responded to adversity. However, the issue with him and really the team as a whole, has been consistency, so we'll see. At least there's some positive vibes going into the bye...and watching the MNF game, if this score holds, the KC loss (while disappointing) may not be so bad after all.
I know he picked a few in his final draft (along with Jenkins), but it always boggled my mind how ireland could go 5 years picking just 2 players from the nations best conference. When your picking later in the draft why wouldn't you take some chances were there is the best athletes and competition.
Needless to say I was estatic with the way Tannehill responded to adversity. However, the issue with him and really the team as a whole, has been consistency, so we'll see. At least there's some positive vibes going into the bye...and watching the MNF game, if this score holds, the KC loss (while disappointing) may not be so bad after all.
In all seriousness, a state of the AFC East right now:
It's wide open. Clears was roasted for saying that a few weeks ago. This Patriots team is more vulnerable than in past seasons. Miami, NE, and Buffalo are all 2-2, and Buffalo is now handing the keys over to Kyle Orton. The Jets may or may not be playing Michael Vick next week and that may or may not be an improvement for them.
If Miami can put together any type of consistency, which has been elusive for them for the past several seasons, they are a good enough, and talented enough team to win this division. We've seen them at their best (NE 2nd half, Oakland 1st half) and when they are clicking, they're a very good team. No question about it. It's there for the taking this season. 9 wins may win it. 10 almost certainly will.
I think it all comes back to Tannehill. When he's on, and the offense has a rhythm, and he's hitting his receivers in stride and making the correct reads, it looks like a completely different team than when he's off.
It's wide open. Clears was roasted for saying that a few weeks ago. This Patriots team is more vulnerable than in past seasons. Miami, NE, and Buffalo are all 2-2, and Buffalo is now handing the keys over to Kyle Orton. The Jets may or may not be playing Michael Vick next week and that may or may not be an improvement for them.
If Miami can put together any type of consistency, which has been elusive for them for the past several seasons, they are a good enough, and talented enough team to win this division. We've seen them at their best (NE 2nd half, Oakland 1st half) and when they are clicking, they're a very good team. No question about it. It's there for the taking this season. 9 wins may win it. 10 almost certainly will.
I think it all comes back to Tannehill. When he's on, and the offense has a rhythm, and he's hitting his receivers in stride and making the correct reads, it looks like a completely different team than when he's off.
The Harbaugh-is-done-in-SF talk has gotten even louder this week. Got to think it's playoffs or bust now for Philbin in Miami. A 9-7, "winning" finish with no playoffs would make things interesting.
RIrooter09 said:
It's a weird story. He was arrested for resisting arrest - without violence - and his attorney claims that this was done to him by the arresting officers once he was in custody:
Today, the PFT link says:
Hey, almost made it through the bye week without incident...
Pats looked great. Bills stole one. One of them will be 4-2 after this week. Green Bay is favored by three and likely to have 30k fans at the game. Must win? That's probably overstating things but a home game off the bye week should almost always be a win in that league.
Pats looked great. Bills stole one. One of them will be 4-2 after this week. Green Bay is favored by three and likely to have 30k fans at the game. Must win? That's probably overstating things but a home game off the bye week should almost always be a win in that league.
Green Bay is going to be very tough to beat, even in Miami, especially as their run game seems to have sprung to life.
Pouncey to guard?
It seems that it's at least a possibility for a week or two while Shelley Smith is still healing up.
It raises an interesting question. What is Miami's best 5? Surely Pouncey, Albert, James, and Colledge are 4 of 5. With Smith out, is Satele at center and Pouncey at RG better than Pouncey at center and Dallas Thomas at RG.
It also raises the question, what is Pouncey's best position? He's a pro bowl center, but he might be an even better guard. With his ability to pull and get out in front on screens, he could be an all pro guard as well.
Not only that, but it sounds as if he would welcome a change to playing guard.
It seems that it's at least a possibility for a week or two while Shelley Smith is still healing up.
It raises an interesting question. What is Miami's best 5? Surely Pouncey, Albert, James, and Colledge are 4 of 5. With Smith out, is Satele at center and Pouncey at RG better than Pouncey at center and Dallas Thomas at RG.
It also raises the question, what is Pouncey's best position? He's a pro bowl center, but he might be an even better guard. With his ability to pull and get out in front on screens, he could be an all pro guard as well.
Not only that, but it sounds as if he would welcome a change to playing guard.
Very interesting stuff, and I'll be interested in seeing how this plays out, and even more so when Smith is healthy and ready to play.
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Say what you will, but that's an all-time classic mug shot. It's up there with the all-time greats:
The Downey:
The Nolte:
And of course, the Bieber, the Willie Nelson, and the Charles Barkley.
The Nolte:
And of course, the Bieber, the Willie Nelson, and the Charles Barkley.
But here's a little more clarity on the Shelby arrest, from an ESPN article:
I guess he got that question answered pretty thoroughly. Looks like someone never watched Chris Rock's PSA, "how not to get your ass kicked by the police".
The Shelby news sucks for him -- he was playing well. Hopefully when all the details come out, it'll prove to be a relatively minor incident. He's never been in trouble before. In any case, the Fins are deepest at D-line; I'm not losing any sleep over this.
I'm really excited for Sunday. The Packers seem really satisfied and relaxed. Love it.
Add the fact that it's a home game off the BYE against Philbin's former team, and this just reads classic trap game for GB.
Big win if "we" can pull it off.
I'm really excited for Sunday. The Packers seem really satisfied and relaxed. Love it.
Add the fact that it's a home game off the BYE against Philbin's former team, and this just reads classic trap game for GB.
Big win if "we" can pull it off.
Pouncey practicing at Guard? ugh.
I just want to see them mnake plays in the passing game and stop GB run and limit big plays
I just want to see them mnake plays in the passing game and stop GB run and limit big plays
Cortland Finnegan is looking doubtful for Sunday which somewhat negates the return of Reshad Jones to the secondary. Would've been nice to have all hands on deck back there to help suppress those big plays.
My simple questions beyond the usual Tannehill watch: Will the defense apply enough pressure on Rogers and contain Lacy enough to keep themselves in the game? Will the O-line remain solid, and how will it respond to the return of Pouncey? Will Miller continue his strong play? Has Charles Clay become healthy enough to be a force rather than simply a potential factor? Will the Dolphins actually experience any kind of home field advantage?
Can Miami win with anything less than 28 points? They're still way too inconsistent and mistake-prone to inspire my confidence. And a dominant win "at" a shitty Raiders team in turmoil a million miles from Oakland doesn't exactly light my fire. And yet I do believe if they play near their potential, they could pull if off.
So, while I'm not exactly sharing in this...
...this is enough to entice me:
My simple questions beyond the usual Tannehill watch: Will the defense apply enough pressure on Rogers and contain Lacy enough to keep themselves in the game? Will the O-line remain solid, and how will it respond to the return of Pouncey? Will Miller continue his strong play? Has Charles Clay become healthy enough to be a force rather than simply a potential factor? Will the Dolphins actually experience any kind of home field advantage?
Can Miami win with anything less than 28 points? They're still way too inconsistent and mistake-prone to inspire my confidence. And a dominant win "at" a shitty Raiders team in turmoil a million miles from Oakland doesn't exactly light my fire. And yet I do believe if they play near their potential, they could pull if off.
So, while I'm not exactly sharing in this...
pdaj said:
...this is enough to entice me:
pdaj said:
Love that he knows the type of antibiotic he wants too. Guessing that wasn't his first bareback rodeo.
Not a must-win in the technical sense, but this game will put a huge stamp on this team's identity. What exactly do we have here? They're coming off a bye and they're darn near full strength, roster-wise. No excuses. The biggest key to the game for me: Control the ball and control the clock. The Packers achilles heal is their run defense. I don't expect Moreno to get a ton of carries, but I'm hoping he'll be involved enough to keep Miller fresh and keep him playing at a high level. I'm really hoping for a big game from Miller. He's due to break off a big run. Conversely, keep the damn ball away from Rogers.
Realistically, I think the Dolphins will keep it close but ultimately come up short. But if they are a genuine playoff contender, they "need" this game. Not to mention that 2-3 with a tough schedule upcoming would look legitimately close to insurmountable.
Realistically, I think the Dolphins will keep it close but ultimately come up short. But if they are a genuine playoff contender, they "need" this game. Not to mention that 2-3 with a tough schedule upcoming would look legitimately close to insurmountable.
Special teams has also spoon fed them some opportunities. These aren't the Raiders. Tannehill is quickly proving he's nowhere close to a playoff-caliber QB, and quite possibly not starting-caliber. Pathetic.sodenj5 said:
Tannehill shouldn't be a starting QB. And I'm completely in favor of not signing this offseason and drafting another QB. he just not smart enough or accurate enough with his reads. and that is not coachable. he's just not good enough.
They could come back and win this game as its hot and humid, but when GB plays 7 or 8 in the box and you can't find the right WR paired off on a safety or LB, I don't know what to say.
They could come back and win this game as its hot and humid, but when GB plays 7 or 8 in the box and you can't find the right WR paired off on a safety or LB, I don't know what to say.
2 plays epitomizing Tannehill's serious limitations. Under pressure but enough time to hit a wide open Wallace 20 yards downfield--the throw's not even close. Then on the following play, plenty of time to throw the ball away but ends up eating the ball and losing 8 yards, effectively killing the drive.
This defensive unit deserves better.
This defensive unit deserves better.
This is why I say that Bill Parcels should be a legend around here. His ability to convince Stephen Ross that Jeff Ireland was a future star talent evaluator destroyed this franchise and parcels kind of screwed the Jets too.
The defense is playing as well as you can possibly expect playing Rodgers. The offense has to put a drive together.
I have faith that they'll make adjusemts at the half. This game is still very winnable if Tannehill can remove his head from his ass.
I have faith that they'll make adjusemts at the half. This game is still very winnable if Tannehill can remove his head from his ass.
sodenj5 said:
if that is the criteria, then they won't win. They beat up NE and Oakland because they were able to run the ball on first, second and third down and throw off play action. GB has 7 or 8 in the box every play and Tannehill cannot beat them. Now Albert is hurt, too. good luck with Dallas Thomas playing RT. lolol
Great drive answering that Rodgers ridiculousness. running the ball in the second half as these teams get tired in the humidity. Have to somehow get a stop. Rodgers is so good...
GREAT drive. GREAT. took advantage of the Packers having CBs injured and got the ball outside the numbers
this is third game where the coaches have made adjustments at half time and team has been incredibly efficient on offense in second half
this is third game where the coaches have made adjustments at half time and team has been incredibly efficient on offense in second half
Here we go. Can the Miami running game grind out a drive to seal the deal? It'd be a shame to let this great defensive effort go to waste.
Thanks for coming.
Clock management at the end of the half and game cost them. And Rodgers is the best.
so, what does the 2015 draft look like?
Clock management at the end of the half and game cost them. And Rodgers is the best.
so, what does the 2015 draft look like?
Gut punch. Rogers is obviously on another plane, but they had them on the ropes and proved they're still just an also-ran. Tannehill played better in the second half, but it's insane how often he underthrows and throws behind receivers, even on completions. He's proving he's not the answer.
This is the most disappointed, angry I've been following a Dolphins loss in quite some time....I'll just leave it at that for now.
I was stunned that the Dolphins gave that game up like that. They looked really good for 3 1/2 quarters against a very good Packers team. I'm sort of wondering if it's a conditioning thing -- they looked spent in that last 8 minutes.
Well, sure. That too. But that's a very good Packers team they went nose-to-nose with for a long time. It's a rough loss but one that they can take a lot from.
If the offense does absolutely anything in the first half, they win. Twice they had great field position off Landry's return and the blocked punt. They got 3 points out of it.
At the time, I was in favor of them going for it on 4th and goal, but those three points would look good right now.
At the time, I was in favor of them going for it on 4th and goal, but those three points would look good right now.
Tannehill stinks -- but if you're going to run on 3rd and 9, he has to take a sack on 2nd down to burn 40 more seconds.
Big difference from the 1st half was the Packers losing Tramon Williams and Sam Shields to injury. Really opened up a chance for Dolphins to pick apart the Packers D.
Big difference from the 1st half was the Packers losing Tramon Williams and Sam Shields to injury. Really opened up a chance for Dolphins to pick apart the Packers D.
Completely agree with this. I also was glad to see them go for it at that point. Bottom line: they squandered three great plays by special teams by only getting 3 points. Granted, their offense exceeded expectations in the second half, but in a sense, they lost the game in the first half.sodenj5 said:
Definitely not ready to mail it in yet. They need to find a way to play like they play in the second half at the start of the game. They get down early and haveto dig their way out of holes.Clears Cleaver said:
The defense stepped up and played huge for about 97% of the game. They were clearly gassed at the end and that's largely on the offense.
Also, how can Tannehill look like absolute dog shit in the first half, and then start dealing and making plays and extending plays with his feet in the second half. He literally looked like two completely different quarterbacks.
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