2014 Patriot UDFA Watch

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Harvard long-snapper Tyler Ott is on the Pats list in Loyko's column

Reiss mentioned him in an odd throwaway note a couple weeks back as a prospect of interest to the Pats, which seems too obscure to be coincidental.
 
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Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
Watson makes the practice squad, no idea on Beck, Jones gets cut quickly is my guess.
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It is about time some NFL team tried to literally put Watson's brain in Jones' body. Call him Robert Stone after.
 
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FREAK athlete but I have a source that says he's dumb as it gets and probably won't have an NFL career. Might be better on defense.
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From some random poster over at footballsfuture's draft forum:
 
 
Last year for Halloween, I went to a frat party down here at ECU, Justin Jones was there. I was gumby, had a friend as a giant teddy bear, and another as a pterodactyl, we were chilling with Justin and a bunch of bad girls at the end of the night. Anywho, so something happens to one of Justin's friend and he goes running out of the party, on the way out, he tripped over a mini fence and fell on his face. Probably the funniest thing I have ever seen. Busted hard.

Justin smokes mad green and is an idiot. How do you fail out of ecu? Good luck trying to teach him a playbook.
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Maybe he'll get his shit together but my operating assumption is that if this kid is too dumb/life-incapable to make grades at ECU and not good enough to dominate games in that conference when he did get on the field, then his chances of success in the NFL are pretty close to zero, crazy physical ability or not.  Worth taking a shot on but there's a reason he's an UDFA.
 
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FWIW, in addition to being Harvard's long snapper, Tyler Ott played tight end for the Crimson. He's also a former Tulsa recruit who decommitted when Harvard accepted him.
 
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Cellar-Door said:
Tyler Beck TE Bowling Green just tweeted he signed with the patriots.
Two TE from Bowling Green?
 
https://twitter.com/T_bEcK_89/statuses/465272161528061952
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Cellar-Door said:
Not an official source but:
https://twitter.com/maddy_rymer/statuses/465286826647777280
 
That would be Justin Jones TE from ECU
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mabrowndog said:
 
James Christensen ‏@NEPatriotsDraft  9m
Ben Watson's brother - Asa Watson TE North Carolina - to the Patriots.
 
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3 TE's, plus maybe this loony Jon Don Dixie boy... sounds like we have a Goldilocks situation with respect to relative intelligence (Watson comes from 'smart' bloodlines, the urban legends about Jones are accumlating, and Beck is likely somewhere in between)
 
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https://twitter.com/NEPD_Loyko
 
Mike Loyko ‏@NEPD_Loyko 3m
Cameron Gordon, OLB, Michigan to the #Patriots cue Shawn Crable jokes now.
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Crable jokes are suitable, but for different reasons.  Crable was considered a (very) slow learner while at Michigan who was getting by on athletic gifts; Gordon was a captain and considered a very smart and good leader, but injuries blunted his development.  Gordon is awful as a football player.
 
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The 2014 NFL Draft just wrapped up, but the roster building continues. Signing undrafted free agents has been an important compenent to the Patriots organization over the last decade plus and this year is no different. Last year the Patriots had mulitple undrafted players make their roster and make an impact, don’t under-estimate the importance of these players.
Here is a list of the players the New England Patriots have signed to a rookie contract and a quick scouting report on what they bring to the table.
 
Justin Jones, TE, East Carolina – Jones is one of the biggest Tight Ends to ever enter the NFL. He stands over 6’8″ tall and is nearly 280 pounds. He sat out the 2013 season due to an eligibility issue otherwise he probably gets drafted. Jones’ key to success is obvious his size and catch radius. Not only is he 6’8″ tall, he also has a 37″ vertical leap and over a 400 lbs. bench press. His role in the NFL is likely to be that of a move Tight End, as he’s not a good blocker, in fact he played a bit of a hybrid role Wide Receiver role for the Pirates. Lots of teams had interest in his services, but the Patriots won out. Jones will have the opportunity to earn a roster spot.
Asa Watson, TE, North Carolina State – Asa is the brother of former Patriots 1st Round pick Ben Watson. He’s also from the same high school and town that produced Jadeveon Clowney. Watson is a “move” TE standing 6’3″ 237 pounds and ran a respectable 4.69 40 during the draft process. He was forced to sit out the 2011 season after undergoing heart surgery and never was given the opportunity to be a prime time target at NC State. His size-speed combination is something attractive to NFL teams and like Jones will have a chance based on the lack of Tight Ends on the Patriots roster.
James Morris, LB, Iowa - A predictable signing by the Patriots. Each year they seem to sign at least one UDFA from Iowa and Morris is the Hawkeye’s best undrafted player. A team captain that had four years of strong production in the Big Ten. Morris can play in the middle or slide out to Weakside Linebacker and he projects as a Special Teams standout. He’s a little undersized, at 6’1″ 241, but he ran in the 4.6-4.7 range and has strong football instincts. Looking at the Patriots LB depth chart, Morris has a good chance to win one of the final roster spots, especially if he shows well on Special Teams.
Roy Finch, RB, Oklahoma – Finch is a diminutive (5’7/177), dynamic, and exiciting change of pace RB. He exploded onto the OU stage as a Freshman, making highlight reel runs, catching the ball out of the backfield, and breaking off big plays. After that it was all downhill for Finch. He got in Bob Stoops doghouse and he could never escape. When you watch Finch the first thing that stands out is his explosive start-stop ability. He can make defenders miss and is tough to square up because of his quickness. He’ll never be an everydown back, but as a 3rd down player and possible returnman he can carve out a bigger role in the NFL than he did at Oklahoma.
Travis Hawkins, CB, Delaware – A former University of Maryland transfer that went on to earn three letters at Delaware. Hawkins was one of the top Defensive Backs in the CAA over the last two seasons, but his value in the NFL might come in from his return ability. He ran a 4.37 40 at his Pro Day and averaged over 27 yards per return. Standing almost 5’10″ and 192 pounds, Hawkins bench pressed 225 20 times, had a 34″ vertical jump, 10’8″ broad jump, 4.32 short shuttle, and 6.80 3-Cone. His speed is something to keep an eye on, but as of right now he has to be considered a long shot to stick.
Deylan Buntyn, DL, North Carolina State – A 6’3″ 323 pound Nose Tackle that originally attended Junior College at New Mexico Military Institute. He played in 11 games in 2013 with zero starts in only 4 total tackles. I’d be interested to know if this is a signing or a tryout. There isn’t much to his resume to get excited about.
Tyler Beck, TE/FB, Bowling Green – Beck is an under the radar kid whose height probably makes him a Fullback or H-Back in the NFL. A three time All-Academic MAC selection, but he hasn’t made much of an impact on the field. Over his four year playing career Beck has amassed only 25 career receptions including a career high 10 catches in 2013. At Bowling Green’s pro day he ran in the 4.80 range in the 40. He’s a very long shot to stick around past the summer.
Tyler Ott, LS, Harvard – One of the top two long snappers in the 2014 NFL Draft. There isn’t much more to be said for this pick up other than it will add competition for Danny Aiken and that is never a bad thing.
Cameron Gordon, OLB, Michigan – Gordon is a 5th year Senior Linebacker, a 4-year Letterwinner, and 3-Time All-Academic Big Ten Selection. Played in 45 total games with only 10 starts, Gordon was primarily a Special Teams Linebacker for the maize and blue after bouncing around positions early in his career. He moved from Wide Receiver to Safety in 2010 and from Safety to Outside Linebacker in 2011. At the Michigan Pro Day he was timed at 4.72 in the 40 yard dash. His experience as a Strongside Linebacker isn’t extensive enough to get excited about. This is a Special Teams pick up and we know how much Bill Belichick likes these types of players.
Donnie Owens, DT, Winston Salem State (Rumored)
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2014/05/2014-new-england-patriots-udfa-signings-and-analysis.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
From some random poster over at footballsfuture's draft forum:
 
 
Maybe he'll get his shit together but my operating assumption is that if this kid is too dumb/life-incapable to make grades at ECU and not good enough to dominate games in that conference when he did get on the field, then his chances of success in the NFL are pretty close to zero, crazy physical ability or not.  Worth taking a shot on but there's a reason he's an UDFA.
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He couldn't make grades during summer classes, wasn't a full-time starter when he was in, and Loyko says he was a bad blocker despite his size and strength.
 
Sounds like a tool.
 
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“@RavensInsider: Patriots gave $3,000 signing bonus, another $17,000 in guarantees to undrafted tight end Asa Watson, younger brother of Saints TE Ben Watson”
 
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Without actually seeing him play (other than highlights), I find the pickup of Stephen Houston interesting (if you find back-up running backs interesting). Looks to me like this guy has a very good chance of being an upgrade on Bolden. They have very similar measurables and production numbers, with Houston being just a bit bigger and faster. As long as he comes in young and hungry, he may just fill the role of "big back" while being a cheap option for the next 3 years (just as Bolden has).

Anyways, just a minor camp battle that will be fun to watch over the summer.
 
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Never been more excited about an UDFA as I am about OU running back Roy Finch. This guy struggled for playing time but I cant wait to see him catch passes out of our backfield.

I know this is from 2011 but I like what I see

http://youtu.be/fkieo5uk7lg
 
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Bosox4416 said:
Never been more excited about an UDFA as I am about OU running back Roy Finch. This guy struggled for playing time but I cant wait to see him catch passes out of our backfield.

I know this is from 2011 but I like what I see

http://youtu.be/fkieo5uk7lg
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Waldman ranked him in the 30s in his RB rankings but saw some Sproles in him. I wouldn't be surprised to see him stick; the Pats have found use for guys like that before.
 
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Oklahoma State Strong Safety Shamiel Gary 6'0" 205 signed with Patriots 4.50 40 10' 3" broad jump; team leader in tackles. UFA.
 
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Cellar-Door said:
Guy who originated the Joe Don Duncan news retracted it:
https://twitter.com/Eric_Edholm/statuses/465285050632650752
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Now it looks like he is not signing here
 

Eric Edholm ‏@Eric_Edholm  9h
@DiegoVCN @sturub because another team is more likely to sign him. the Joe Dun Dream has almost died

 

Eric Edholm ‏@Eric_Edholm  9h
@DiegoVCN hasn't signed a deal yet, dude. let you know when he does. I am sure you won't be happy about it.

 
https://twitter.com/Eric_Edholm/status/466564261959856128
 
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lambeau said:
Oklahoma State Strong Safety Shamiel Gary 6'0" 205 signed with Patriots 4.50 40 10' 3" broad jump; team leader in tackles. UFA.
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Are you sure it isn't Schmazel Gary?
 
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Pats cut TE Tyler Beck, who they signed as an UDFA a few days ago.
 
Also cut was LS Charley Hughlett.
 
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Pats cut TE Tyler Beck, who they signed as an UDFA a few days ago.
 
Also cut was LS Charley Hughlett.
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BB doesn't fuck around. 2-3 practices and they're gone.
 
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