2015 Dolphins: Fire the Lazor!

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They will run off a good 5 game streak to give hope and ensure another 7-8 win season that gives Ross a reason to extend everyone. But they are holy shit bad right now.
 

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14-0. I just turned it on. I expect there will be about 500 fans left in the new stadium after halftime
 
I hope they lose 42-0 and everyone is fired and they forfeit the last 14 games. Seriously, the whole franchise is a joke. There is not a leader anywhere to be found
 

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Unreal how lost they look on defense. The amount of talent on the field vs the output they're getting makes zero sense they're being embarrassed by Tyrod Taylor at home.
 

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well, at least they used a first, second and traded their third for three guys who won't contribute in any way today.
 
what an easy team to take pot shots at. Literally everything is a joke. 
 
I'll bet anything Tannehill gets injured today, as well. Down 28 or whatever, they will keep passing until he gets destroyed
 

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Buffalo is rushing 4 and Miami cannot handle any of their rush. Disgusting display.
 

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At least the punter is good. Glad everyone was so concerned about that. He might be the team MVP.
 

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Stephen Ross could have a massive stroke and use throwing tapioca at newspapers and he would be better at picking people to run the team.
 

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Clears Cleaver said:
well, at least they used a first, second and traded their third for three guys who won't contribute in any way today.
 
Even cooler when Jennings continues to drop balls.
It looked like they had some questionable personal for Goalline D as well...I really don't understand what their philosophies are, on either side of the ball, at the moment.  Again, it may just be my fault for thinking this was the year things were going to turn around.
 
I do actually expect them to turn it around at some point today though...Turn it around and wind up losing 31-27 or some shit that makes it even more infuriating.
 

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Buffalo is rushing 4 and Miami cannot handle any of their rush. Disgusting display.
 
but...um....how is this any different than last year? or the year before? or the year before? they literally have had an awful offensive line for most of the past 20 years
 

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I'm glad the fans are booing. It might be the only thing that Steve Ross will listen to.
 

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Philbin's gone by week 8. This team should be making the playoffs with its talent in this conference, and they look like dogshit and have all year.
 
Suh looks like Haynesworth redux, too. Obviously way early for that, but he looks pedestrian at best. Not sure if that's a coaching thing or an individual thing.
 

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Philbin's gone by week 8. This team should be making the playoffs with its talent in this conference, and they look like dogshit and have all year.
 
Suh looks like Haynesworth redux, too. Obviously way early for that, but he looks pedestrian at best. Not sure if that's a coaching thing or an individual thing.
That's a hilariously hot take. He's literally getting double and even triple teamed every single play. It's on the other players around him to step up and no one is.
 

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Well, Suh himself has said he's playing like shit and he has faced double and triple teams the last five years and was productive. 
 
This team is soft on both lines, has a soft mentality on how they scheme and have zero leadership. 
 
At least Tannehill is improving....lol
 

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3rd and 3, run a jet sweep to the near side of the field. SMH.
 

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It doesn't even look like they belong in the same league as the Bills. It's like the Bills are at a different speed setting swarming everywhere while the Fins are standing around in mud.

This has been embarrassing.
 

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I wonder if Philbin gets fired or just Coyle at the bye week after they lose next week? I mean you have to fire everyone, right?  
 

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The sad thing is that they can fire everyone tomorrow and it won't inspire any hope in me because Stephen Ross will still own the team.
Is there any reason to believe they'll have a stable front office and make sound football decisions as long as that is the case?
 

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they literally cannot run the ball.
 
LOLOLOL. Buffalo had TWO guys untouched on that INT. TWO! LOLOLOLOLOL
 
Buffalo should just throw throw three straight hail marys
 

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Tannehill is shell shocked. They're bringing blitzes and there are two free runners teeing off on him. I know they won't, but I would get Tannehill out of this game.
 

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You guys really think Ross will do that?
 
Philbin is on a one-year deal, I think. Money doesn't matter to Ross, who is amongst the richest NFL owners. He wants to win but has no idea how to build a football organization. Mike Tannebaum is the guy now, he will fire Philbin and dickey after the next game, a loss to TN. Not sure who then coaches the team. Coyle and Lazor have done nothing to show they can be head coaches. Not sure who they will go after to be permanent "fix" as they've failed with Saban, Parcells tree, GB tree..
 
whatever, makes sundays much more fun as I have no interest in the rest of the NFL
 

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Tannehill is shell shocked. They're bringing blitzes and there are two free runners teeing off on him. I know they won't, but I would get Tannehill out of this game.
 
refer to post #609 in this thread
 
I really want them to punt on first down every possession from here on out. The old Steve Martin bit
 

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The sad thing is that they can fire everyone tomorrow and it won't inspire any hope in me because Stephen Ross will still own the team.
Is there any reason to believe they'll have a stable front office and make sound football decisions as long as that is the case?
 
He has more "experience" than before when pretty much Joe Philbin was the only guy who accepted the position but yes the coaching staff needs a total makeover. This I knew would come with Philbin at the helm. Steve Ross blunder looking for a HC while having Sparano on board has cost dearly as his trying to preach loyalty and has hanged on to Philbin for far far too long. I really hope they do this sooner rather than later, 
 

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I was surprised Philbin lasted this long.  He has to be gone now.  I was really looking forward to this game all week but this team is depressing.  There isn't anything positive you can say about them right now.
 

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good coaches throw at Brice McCain every third down and covert every third down. He is simply awful
 
Love to see them trade Wake and OV. maybe get a fourth or fifth round pick
 

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I'd argue he did the same thing with Ireland (giving him too much time).
In my view they've sabotaged themselves repeatedly by failing to commit to a full makeover.  I didn't see why a coach with options would want to come and work with Ireland, and I saw no reason to force a new GM to inherit Philbin. Then you aren't going to find quality assistants that want to attach themselves to a lame-duck Head Coach.  It's just been such a mess, it's hard to have much faith they'll get things right this time.
 
I'm not sure if it's just listening to the wrong people, loyalty to a fault, naivity, whatever, but despite always seeming to have the best of intentions, everything always blows up in Ross's face.
 

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LOLOL
 
three plays from the two and they run two fades and a pass that should have been intercepted by three different bills
 
Tannehill is completely shellshocked whenever the Bills blitz. He has no idea what to do or where its coming from and cannot find the hot WR (assuming they have one)
 

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I'm not really sure where to start with how bad they've looked the last two weeks. They're literally a Jarvis Landry punt return away from being 0-3.
 
This might be the worst 3 game stretch of the Joe Philbin era. The offensive line is a disaster. Albert is obviously less than 100%, and even if he played yesterday, I don't know how much it would have helped. The guards have been flat out bad. I can't comment on James one way or the other. He might be just treading water, but I don't recall him blowing any plays, which qualifies him for second best on the line right now. They can't run the ball and Tannehill is getting crushed because teams know they're going to pass the ball and Miami can't protect their quarterback even a little bit.
 
I can't tell if the defensive line is playing poorly or if it's a scheme issue from Coyle, or if the coverage is so soft that they are getting easy completions and aren't allowing the pass rush to get there (*cough* Brice McCain playing 10 yards off the LOS when they need 3 yards to convert *cough*), but one thing is absolutely clear. They have one sack from Jordan Phillips in 3 games. That's a massive, massive failure.
 

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I can't figure out if Coyle is as bad as I think he is, or if he is just executing Philbin's gameplan, which seems to be a combination of bend don't break on defense and not know how to keep possession on offense.
 
A lot of that is on the players too, but I honestly can't figure out what Coyle is trying to do.  
 

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I can't figure out if Coyle is as bad as I think he is, or if he is just executing Philbin's gameplan, which seems to be a combination of bend don't break on defense and not know how to keep possession on offense.
 
A lot of that is on the players too, but I honestly can't figure out what Coyle is trying to do.  
 
Watching McCain play off 10 yards on 3rd and short over and over made me want to literally punch my TV. I remember one conversion literally three or four players threw up their arms when Harvin caught the short pass for an easy first down. Also, the back breaker was that roughing the punter penalty. Miami scored a TD, the defense got a 3 and out and was about to get the ball back, still a two posession game at that point. Completely deflating and inexcusable.
 
Not sure if you can put that on Coyle. I don't think he has a clue as to what he's doing currently, but some of the players have blown it big time. Walt Aikens just let Chris Hogan run wide open for a TD. Taylor clearly turned Hogan loose anticipating safety help over the top and Aikens got caught with his pants down watching the QB's eyes.
 
As much as I think he's a tool, Jim Schwartz is available. I think if Miami loses to the Jets, changes have to be made going into the bye week.
 

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Watching McCain play off 10 yards on 3rd and short over and over made me want to literally punch my TV. I remember one conversion literally three or four players threw up their arms when Harvin caught the short pass for an easy first down. Also, the back breaker was that roughing the punter penalty. Miami scored a TD, the defense got a 3 and out and was about to get the ball back, still a two posession game at that point. Completely deflating and inexcusable.
 
Not sure if you can put that on Coyle. I don't think he has a clue as to what he's doing currently, but some of the players have blown it big time. Walt Aikens just let Chris Hogan run wide open for a TD. Taylor clearly turned Hogan loose anticipating safety help over the top and Aikens got caught with his pants down watching the QB's eyes.
 
As much as I think he's a tool, Jim Schwartz is available. I think if Miami loses to the Jets, changes have to be made going into the bye week.
 
The problem isn't the coordinators.  It's that the team is--quite predictably-shitty at a ton of positions. 
 
Maybe someday the team (and its fans) learn that adding a couple of big names very off season without developing the middle of the roster is a shitty way to build a team. Until then enjoy counting on Brice McCain.
 

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Well, I disagree. they are pretty talented in their first 22. but their depth sucks. and....the online is awful already and Albert and Pouncey are both hurt now. And Wake and Vernon are overrated.
 
the coaching stinks. they have never created an identity, something that they can rely on and call their own. they also have no leadership, be it from Tannehill, Pouncey, Albert, Suh or Wake. None of those guys are leaders. And Philbin just sucks at everything. He will be gone after they lose to the Jets
 

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Well, I disagree. they are pretty talented in their first 22. but their depth sucks. and....the online is awful already and Albert and Pouncey are both hurt now. And Wake and Vernon are overrated.
 
the coaching stinks. they have never created an identity, something that they can rely on and call their own. they also have no leadership, be it from Tannehill, Pouncey, Albert, Suh or Wake. None of those guys are leaders. And Philbin just sucks at everything. He will be gone after they lose to the Jets
I'm pretty sure Shelter is saying the same thing.. The middle he's referring to is the depth past the starters. From my perspective it seems like some coaches get more out of players than others and Philbin is on the bad side of that equation. So not only is the depth lackluster, they're not being coached up very well.
 

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I'm pretty sure Shelter is saying the same thing.. The middle he's referring to is the depth past the starters. From my perspective it seems like some coaches get more out of players than others and Philbin is on the bad side of that equation. So not only is the depth lackluster, they're not being coached up very well.
 
I wasn't clear so you're both half right.  I think a lot of the presumptive contributors are bad (guards, linebackers, non Landry wideouts, and defensive backs, I'm looking at you), I expect Grimes/Albert/Wake are closing in on the end, and I think a bunch of the starters who Dolphins fans seem to love (Miller or Vernon) are really pedestrian for NFL starters and are, at best, average NFL starters.  
 
The coaching could be better, sure, but I see .500 talent at best.