2015 NHL Draft
- Thread starter cshea
- Start date
MoGator, What do you mean not Toronto? We need a number one centre and this would have turned our sorry team
When they flipped the Bs at 14, that Gif of Ralph when his heart breaks after Lisa's valentine kept running through my head.
They are trying to recreate the Edm 80s dynasty.
They are trying to recreate the Edm 80s dynasty.
Greg no, if you wanted to be AIDS you needed to keep Neal. Or Cooke.
Also you had one, nobody forced Nonis to trade Clarkson.
Or maybe they did.
You definitely do. But mainly I'm thinking about the media frenzy that would ensue if the Leafs won.scotian1 said:
Also you had one, nobody forced Nonis to trade Clarkson.
Or maybe they did.
It really is about as bad an outcome as the NHL could hope for. I don't think even MCDavid can save that franchise.
Well Edmonton is in the early stages of building a new arena complex so this won't hurt that. But I feel bad for the kid he really wanted to be the savior of the Leafs being a Toronto boy.
Boy surprised at Sabres GM Murray's press conference comments after the lottery. He may have some fence mending to do with Eichel.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/murray-compares-draft-lottery-to-not-making-team-canada/
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/murray-compares-draft-lottery-to-not-making-team-canada/
Look on the bright side, the future tsn.ca longform article on How Connor McDavid Never Panned Out is going to be a hell of a piece.
jk333 said:
Someone might want to give him a lesson in odds as well. I get that they spent the last 18months planning for this day but 20% is still only 20% no matter how much you tank. He went into the draft expecting to cash in on 5-1 odds. Hope he never visits Vegas if he thinks those are good odds.
Kind of sucks that McDavid is going to Edmonton, but I'm mostly happy that he's not a Maple Leaf.
Canadian sports media already devotes an embarrassing amount of time to the Maple Leafs. For the American equivalent imagine if the Yankees signed Mike Trout, Felix Hernandez, Lebron James, Peyton Manning and Tiger Woods. It's too awful to even think about.
Canadian sports media already devotes an embarrassing amount of time to the Maple Leafs. For the American equivalent imagine if the Yankees signed Mike Trout, Felix Hernandez, Lebron James, Peyton Manning and Tiger Woods. It's too awful to even think about.
The trouble is Jettisoned is the Leafs have no players of that quality and it would be nice to have at least one.
Hall - McDavid - Eberle
Draisaitl - RNH - Yakupov
4 #1 overall's, and #3 overall. Fun times. In some ways though they probably would've been better off "losing" and staying at 3 where they are forced to take Hanifin. Kind of like the Yakupov draft where they probably would've been better off having the 2nd pick and had the decision taken out of their hands (Ryan Murray).
If Arizona were to call Edmonton offering OEL, #3 plus other fillers for #1, should Edmonton do it? Edmonton would get their franchise defenseman at the age of 23, keep the young current core, and add to it a stud (Hanifin, Strome, Marner,etc) at #3. But it is McDavid...so
Draisaitl - RNH - Yakupov
4 #1 overall's, and #3 overall. Fun times. In some ways though they probably would've been better off "losing" and staying at 3 where they are forced to take Hanifin. Kind of like the Yakupov draft where they probably would've been better off having the 2nd pick and had the decision taken out of their hands (Ryan Murray).
If Arizona were to call Edmonton offering OEL, #3 plus other fillers for #1, should Edmonton do it? Edmonton would get their franchise defenseman at the age of 23, keep the young current core, and add to it a stud (Hanifin, Strome, Marner,etc) at #3. But it is McDavid...so
That is potentially a devastating top six, at least when they have the puck in the offensive zone.
I would also think they'd listen to offers on anyone other than McDavid. I can't see them passing this up when they could have/should have done so with a lesser player like Yakupov and perhaps gotten a somewhat similar haul.
I would also think they'd listen to offers on anyone other than McDavid. I can't see them passing this up when they could have/should have done so with a lesser player like Yakupov and perhaps gotten a somewhat similar haul.
Buffalo will not trade that pick. They tanked for a reason, they wanted to be guaranteed one of those two guys. They will take Eichel.AMcGhie said:
If the Bruins pressed Buffalo to humor them with what it would take, i would guess it would start with Bergeron + Hamilton + the #14.AMcGhie said:
Some Mock Draft Monday Mania:
Bleacher Report has us taking a RW:
Damien Cox has us taking a C:
14. Boston Bruins
NHL.Com has them taking:
NESN has the Bruins taking Oliver Kylington:
Bleacher Report has us taking a RW:
Damien Cox has us taking a C:
14. Boston Bruins
NHL.Com has them taking:
NESN has the Bruins taking Oliver Kylington:
I did some research on Barzal today and he seems to be zooming up the draft boards. Seems very unlikely he's around at 14, but I would love to get him.
Barzal is a 5'11" 175 lb playmaking center in the WHL. 14g, 45a in 44 games for Seattle in the WHL. The Bruins should be very familiar with him, Barzal played with recent Bruin signee Justin Hickman this year.
This piece drools all over him:
http://thehockeywriters.com/mathew-barzal-nhl-draft-war-room-profile/
Trading up into the 6-10 range would be awesome. So many prospects after McEichfin going 1-2-3. Barzal, Strome, Marner, Provorov, Rantanen, Crouse maybe, etc. I'd love to move up a few spots and target one of those kids.
Barzal is a 5'11" 175 lb playmaking center in the WHL. 14g, 45a in 44 games for Seattle in the WHL. The Bruins should be very familiar with him, Barzal played with recent Bruin signee Justin Hickman this year.
This piece drools all over him:
http://thehockeywriters.com/mathew-barzal-nhl-draft-war-room-profile/
Trading up into the 6-10 range would be awesome. So many prospects after McEichfin going 1-2-3. Barzal, Strome, Marner, Provorov, Rantanen, Crouse maybe, etc. I'd love to move up a few spots and target one of those kids.
No argument. I was more just making the point that it would take your best and then some to even open a conversation.BigMike said:
Trade I think they should consider is offering the # 2 to Chicago for Kane plus some futures. Bring the hometown boy home and it give Chicago some cap relief.
Honestly trying to predict who the Bruins will pick at this point seems a fools game. There are a clear top 5, and then there are 20+ who could go in any order. Yes mock drafts seem to group a few in the 6-10 range more consistently, but I honestly wouldn't be shocked if anyone outside the top 5 is available at the Bruins pick.
And I won't be shocked if the Bruins board has a couple of names int he top 10 that people would scream bloody murder at right now. No idea who they would be, but it does seem all over the place
Crouse could go 6 or 14. He could be a future Lucic type scoring 25 goals while hitting everything in site, or he just may be Zach Kassian, and struggle to see a 25 point season in his career.
Kylington has an unbelievable skillset, but he hasn't produced points. People had him top 5 at one point this year, and some still have him top 10, others have him in the 20s
Provorov seems to have replaced Kylington as the small D-man in the top 10, but I think he could go almost anywhere
Lots of guys in the Barzal, Markley, Konecky type, any might be available for Boston, or could go top 10
And there will probably be at least one player discussed at times for the Bruins in the first who will drop to the 2nd (no idea who will, but it seems that random at the top)
And I won't be shocked if the Bruins board has a couple of names int he top 10 that people would scream bloody murder at right now. No idea who they would be, but it does seem all over the place
Crouse could go 6 or 14. He could be a future Lucic type scoring 25 goals while hitting everything in site, or he just may be Zach Kassian, and struggle to see a 25 point season in his career.
Kylington has an unbelievable skillset, but he hasn't produced points. People had him top 5 at one point this year, and some still have him top 10, others have him in the 20s
Provorov seems to have replaced Kylington as the small D-man in the top 10, but I think he could go almost anywhere
Lots of guys in the Barzal, Markley, Konecky type, any might be available for Boston, or could go top 10
And there will probably be at least one player discussed at times for the Bruins in the first who will drop to the 2nd (no idea who will, but it seems that random at the top)
AMcGhie said:
Did you think we would not know what quixotic meant?
I don't know a goddamn thing, but it seems to me that as much as we need to replenish the minors, the move this year is to package the pick, Subban (If MacIntyre signs), and a forward to get us a top 3-4 Dman. But I don't even know if that's possible.
I wanted to make very clear going in that A) I know its a stupid, stupid idea, that B) There are better ways for the Bruins to improve their team without mortgaging more than they can afford in the process, and c) I went to BU so I have blinders on when it comes to Eichel. He was so fucking good this year.
Like I implied, trading up for Eichel is an exceedingly stupid idea, and having everyone tell me what it would actually take helped reinforce that idea.
Like I implied, trading up for Eichel is an exceedingly stupid idea, and having everyone tell me what it would actually take helped reinforce that idea.
For what it's worth, he is a player you go all in for. You'd have him under control for several years. If it meant trading major pieces of your core and sucking for a few years, you think long and hard about it. McDavid and Eichel are generational players that don't come along all that often.
I'd be all in on a trade up for the chance at Eichel. He is a stud and would give the Bruins the power center they have needed for years.
I don't see it as possible, but if you go all in to get Eichel, you need to go all in on the suck for 2-3 years. Bergeron stays, maybe Chara, Hamilton, Pasta, but beyond that you might as well tank hard for the next 2-3 years , so everyone else should go.
I tend to be of the opinion that they should be a major retooling anyway
I tend to be of the opinion that they should be a major retooling anyway
It would probably take multiple 1st rounders, Subban, and Pastranak. And I think both teams probably say no to that deal anyway.
Also I'm not sure why everyone wants to trade Subban so badly. We saw the effect of not having a capable backup this season. Subban has the potential to be much more than capable within the next year or two.
Also I'm not sure why everyone wants to trade Subban so badly. We saw the effect of not having a capable backup this season. Subban has the potential to be much more than capable within the next year or two.
Pastrnak, Hamilton & the 14th wouldn't get it done. Eichel is a potential elite talent on a ELC. Those guys have more value then any team would be willing to pay. Imagine if Buffalo offered the Bruins Myers, Kassian and their 2010 first for Seguin before he was drafted. The Bruins wouldn't that deal either.BoSoxFink said:
Yea I was making the same point. I don't think that would be enough to get it done, which is why I said if I was the Bruins I would do it.Salem's Lot said:
ISS final rankings came out this week.
http://www.isshockey.com/iss-top-30/
Hanifin dropped to 5th.
As for the Bruins- the 2 guys they have at 13 and 14 would be my targets, barring anyone absurd somehow sliding. Kyle Connor and Timo Meier.
Connor is a 6'1, 177 lb center from the USHL. He projects as a top 6 2-way forward. Comes from the USNDP, currently with Youngstown of the USHL.
http://thehockeywriters.com/kyle-connor-the-next-ones-nhl-2015-draft-prospect-profile/
Meier is also 6'1, but is more filled out at 209 lbs. Left shot, scoring winger. Playing for Halifax of the QMJHL.
http://thehockeywriters.com/timo-meier-2015-draft-prospect-profile/
http://www.isshockey.com/iss-top-30/
Hanifin dropped to 5th.
As for the Bruins- the 2 guys they have at 13 and 14 would be my targets, barring anyone absurd somehow sliding. Kyle Connor and Timo Meier.
Connor is a 6'1, 177 lb center from the USHL. He projects as a top 6 2-way forward. Comes from the USNDP, currently with Youngstown of the USHL.
http://thehockeywriters.com/kyle-connor-the-next-ones-nhl-2015-draft-prospect-profile/
Meier is also 6'1, but is more filled out at 209 lbs. Left shot, scoring winger. Playing for Halifax of the QMJHL.
http://thehockeywriters.com/timo-meier-2015-draft-prospect-profile/
