2015 Ravens: Achilles 4, Suggs 0, Karma 7
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Gunfighter 09 said:
Per the numbers up thread, Baltimore probably has fewer playoff appearances overall, as pre-Flacco they would have been a Jets-esque opponent (great D, terrible offense) and would have traded wins over the Browns and Bengals for wins over the Jets and Miami, while losing a little more often to the Patriots than they did to the Steelers.
If the goal was geographical consistency, the logical moves would be Miami to the AFC South, Indy to the AFC North, and then Baltimore to the AFC East.Gunfighter 09 said:
Edit: damn was working off an old version of the thread.
nattysez said:
Pretty sure all teams submit certain preferences or requests, as well as logistical things like "we can't be home in week 9 because of a concert"
Peter King at MMQB wrote a long piece a couple years ago on the process of making the schedule:tims4wins said:
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/04/24/making-of-2014-nfl-schedule
A should-be cupcake, a tough conference opponent and a division game. Where have I heard that before.riboflav said:
Plus a vocal portion are calling for the head of Dean Pees, complaints which I'm sure you are all familiar with.
Over @ The Russell Street Report it's also that they don't have any WR's. Every Flacco INT or incomplete isn't his fault, it's because of his WR's.wade boggs chicken dinner said:
Yes. The same Pees that got them pretty far last season with a secondary beyond repair.wade boggs chicken dinner said:
Harbaugh is very good at laying this off on coordinators during the season and swapping new guys in. Teflon. He has done on the other side of the ball late season, and it worked. I don't know that it could this time, so I don't know if he'll try it.
In this respect, Harbaugh is helped by his special teams background. He's not seen as "responsible" for one side of the ball like most promoted coordinators. He can chuck Cam Cameron under the bus, and then find the next guy. Tomlin has similar positioning in PIT; he's the head coach, not the offense/defense guru.
Jonathan has a massive ego, but I think he's smart enough to let BB run things his way. What I think is possible is that after BB retires, Jonathan may believe that his institutional knowledge of the Patriots under BB is translatable to running some part of the football side of the organization, or at least makes him deserving of input beyond the business, ownership and operation side. If so, it could be an ugly tenure.Stitch01 said:
The problem with the Ravens is they can't run the ball a lick which forces them to be one dimensional and they have one productive receiver.
I think Flacco deserves more of the blame here, as this start pretty much confirms his lack of "eliteness". In all three losses Flacco has had the ball with a chance to win or tie at the end of the game. In two of those losses he threw an interception to seal the loss and blatantly missed open receivers on the fourth and long play at the end of the Bengals game. He only had 26 seconds to work with at the end of the Raiders game and has been hurt by drops, but this is why he is not on the Brady / Rogers / etc. level.
ShaneTrot said:
The lack of running game was so predictable. I wrote this after the Denver loss:
Nothing has changed. They can't run it.
Agreed, but anyone coming in after BB and TB12 retire is basically in a no-win situation.Bleedred said:
That said, JK should not be talking smack publicly about the Ravens at all. Let the team win and stay above that crap, it's what the coach does so take a cue from BB.
Gunfighter 09 said:
Well, Flacco did engineer one 4th quarter comeback yesterday. Too bad they needed two. Plus as noted above, the Ravens have probably as bad a group of WRs as any team in football.
And even what were supposed to be their strength - their OL and DL - have been playing not very well insofar as I can tell.
A huge part of the problem I think is that the Ravens' player evaluations were inflated last year based on playing the NFC South. They went 3-3 in their division and ended up beating CAR, ATL, NO, TB, JAC, and TEN for nine wins.
I thought all of the teams in that division were going to take a step back because of how much more difficult their schedules are this year, but apparently it's just BAL (at least until now).
wade boggs chicken dinner said:
That seems very overblown to me. Regardless of the rest of the team, Steve Smith is good. I would argue that the Browns, 49ers, Rams and Panthers have worse receivers. If we are not including Tight Ends, I would put the Chiefs and Seahawks below the Ravens as well.
Even Snyder wouldn't screw with BB, as he didn't mess with Joe Gibbs II. So I don't imagine Jonathan would either.
When BB retires, we'll find out. If he runs it like Pops, we should be fine. If he doesn't, it's a question of how many times his nose must be bloodied over how long before he wakes up. Snyder has not woken up, and we're in year 17 or thereabouts right now.
When BB retires, we'll find out. If he runs it like Pops, we should be fine. If he doesn't, it's a question of how many times his nose must be bloodied over how long before he wakes up. Snyder has not woken up, and we're in year 17 or thereabouts right now.
I was at the game. Flacco played more than well enough to win, and the Bengals could not cover the 37 year old Superman. (Put Steve Smith on the Pats, and we would be astonished several times a game; he's quite amazing).
But they can't run the ball, the defense really stinks, they are playing sloppy, penalty-filled football, and Flacco is not "elite". That's the story. Harbaugh walks because of an astute observation made by soxfan above about him and Tomlin.
But they can't run the ball, the defense really stinks, they are playing sloppy, penalty-filled football, and Flacco is not "elite". That's the story. Harbaugh walks because of an astute observation made by soxfan above about him and Tomlin.
Harbaugh also walks because his career record is 72-43 with a title and six playoff appearances in seven years.dcmissle said:
(Aside: Belichick obviously has the best resume of any coach out there, but Mike McCarthy is probably #2: 47 games over .500, second only to BB, and a ring. Harbaugh's probably #3)
pappymojo said:
If you put Flacco under a truth serum, I think he's much rather be throwing to Boldin and Smith - again - than SSSr. and Kamar Aiken. And as for the rest, I didn't really go through the depth charts to compare, but if the Ravens are better they aren't very much better.
No doubt. Harbaugh is a very good coach. I'm very disappointed in his behavior the last year or so, from a Pats fan perspective, but there is no taking that away from him.Super Nomario said:
It's going to be very interesting to see whether they can climb out of this hole and, if not get back into a playoff competitive position, how he handles the rest of the year.
Even when allowing for talent attrition, there is something not quite right this season. It's reflected in the sloppiness of their play, in all phases, which fairly should be pinned on the HC.
Ravens' Security Director cleared.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/sources-ravens-security-director-darren-sanders-cleared-by-nfl-to-return-to-work-no-suspension/
The way this is worded seems off to me.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/sources-ravens-security-director-darren-sanders-cleared-by-nfl-to-return-to-work-no-suspension/
The way this is worded seems off to me.
Steve Smith has a hat that says "Smith" and a lifetime hit list for people that did nothing to him.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25324850/ravens-wr-steve-smith-on-steelers-safety-hes-on-my-lifetime-hit-list
PS, I need a hat that reads "dbn".
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25324850/ravens-wr-steve-smith-on-steelers-safety-hes-on-my-lifetime-hit-list
PS, I need a hat that reads "dbn".
So there are two guys I have long wanted to be in a Pats uniform. One is Sproles; the other Smith. It really irks me that weather contributed to him being in a Ravens uni instead. The guy is a 37-year-old wonder. God he'd be a great Patriot.dbn said:
dcmissle said:
I have no doubt BB respects Smith and would love to have him on the Patriots - if Smith shut the fuck up.
And I have no doubt Smith respects BB and would love to be a Patriot - if he didn't have to shut the fuck up.
There was never much chance of Smith becoming a Patriot because neither guy has any intention of changing who they are, and how he likes to do his business. You can admire someone of a different style without necessarily wanting that guy on your team. I like Smith, too. But not the constant me-first yapping and the teammate punching. So, yeah - great player. Not a great Patriot, at least as long as Belichick is the coach.
@CHICKatCSN: Per team source Ravens WR Steve Smith Sr. has 4 broken bones in his back. They will put him in wait & see mode (day 2 day) #ravenstalk cont
Was wondering how broken back bones = day to day but Rapsheet says it's actually four ribs.NortheasternPJ said:
I don't know - there are counter-examples of big mouths that Belichick did sign. Ochocinco is the latest example. Moss had his incidents. There's no one really like Steve Smith, but Bryan Cox was pretty close:soxfan121 said:
I'm not sure if Smith's yapping is qualitatively different from these guys in a way that Belichick would find unworkable, but he's made things work with other folks in the past.
Good point. I can envision a conversation between those guys and Belichick in which 'doing it differently' was discussed; all made obvious effort to change their former talking ways. I can see Smith saying "too much a part of my game" and Belichick nodding and saying, "I respect that."
I never thought Talib nor Blount would be a "good" fit either. At this point BB gets the benefit of the doubt on pretty much anyone he wants to bring in.soxfan121 said:
Yes, I vaguely remember Ochocinco saying he had agreed to stick to Patriots-speak when he came.soxfan121 said: