Rubio is almost always rumored on his way out for some reason and Kris Dunn looks like a bust. Or at the very least, Kris Dunn shouldn't prevent you from getting IT4.
http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2017/05/boston_celtics_trade_rumors_20_249.html"We had eight draft picks and were trying to consolidate our picks to move up or out of the draft," Ainge said on the radio. "We were also making plans to go get Kevin Durant and Al Horford, so why in the world would we go there without Isaiah Thomas and try to have our best player traded for a lottery pick? It just doesn't make any sense at all."
ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne added the workout will take place at an undisclosed location and that Ball wants the Lakers "to see his work ethic and training methods." The Lakers also spoke to UCLA coaches about Ball earlier in the week, per Shelburne.
I think Wiggins and Bennett for Love works . . . . ;-)They should bring Love back
This is old news from two days ago. Speculation I've read is that it was the 76ers. Hence the Lakers' 2nd look at both Josh Jackson (yesterday) and Ball (later this week). If the Lakers had made a promise, then presumably there would be no need for a 2nd Ball workout.
Jackson also canceled his workout with the Celtics. If this is true I imagine it's the Lakers.
But why not work out for the Celtics?
If Ball’s dream destination is No. 2, at least working out for No. 1 could help his cause. Maybe the rookie guard thinks he’d blow Boston out of their seats, prompting them to select him over Washington’s Markelle Fultz with the top pick they acquired through a trade with Brooklyn.
But if the Lakers legitimately aren’t interested in selecting Ball with the second pick, there is no reason to hold out from a young, promising Celtics team that could have a hole to fill at point guard in the future.
Fultz was been pegged the unanimous No. 1 pick midway through the college basketball season, and it’s his explosive athleticism on both ends combined with his knock-down perimeter shooting that’s landed him atop this draft class. But Ball is an incredible talent, as well.
With so many of these threads branching off into what is covered in other threads I'll post this here also from the Hayward thread regarding Isaac and a promise......Seems Isaac has a promise from the Suns? And Jackson has a top 3 promise.
I know Sacto is kind of dumb sometimes, but if they hold out at 5, they are basically guaranteed one of Fox or Ball. Nevermind Tatum. Seems like it would be really dumb for them to trade up.
The international quote is surprising. I'd have gone with LaVar creating the BBBA and awarding himself the Los Angeles franchise.Sam Strong ESPN Staff Writer
What will happen if Lonzo Ball falls to Boston at No. 3? LaVar says it will be unclear as to whose team it is. Sacramento at No. 5? They'll head overseas.
Nice, I always appreciate real world stories like this.I had the pleasure of teaching Donovan Mitchell in American history (solid student; very good analytical writer - his mother is a teacher) and Donnie also served as the captain of my baseball team from 7-9 grades where he played centerfield, pitched, and also played short. Excellent defense, great arm, so-so hitter (batted left), and a superb base stealer. Great kid overall. He stopped by and visited me two weeks ago in my classroom, and he seemed pumped up for the draft. A wonderful young man in every way.
Great stuff thanks for sharing!I had the pleasure of teaching Donovan Mitchell in American history (solid student; very good analytical writer - his mother is a teacher) and Donnie also served as the captain of my baseball team from 7-9 grades where he played centerfield, pitched, and also played short. Excellent defense, great arm, so-so hitter (batted left), and a superb base stealer. Great kid overall. He stopped by and visited me two weeks ago in my classroom, and he seemed pumped up for the draft. A wonderful young man in every way.
Very cool to hear. I liked him a lot as a sleeper early on, but it seems he's gained lottery momentum in the past couple of months. He's got some of that Avery Bradley/Marcus Smart gamer in him, plus great athleticism. Nice to hear he's a good kid too.Great stuff thanks for sharing!
It always amazes me how many people forget the math of winning championships. In a thirty team league you have a very, very small number of rings to go around.Since the lottery began in 1985, only four No. 1 picks have led the team that drafted them to an NBA championship: David Robinson, Tim Duncan, LeBron James and Kyrie Irving.
Arguably, Anthony Bennett and Andrew Wiggins (both #1 picks) also led to the Cavs' championship albeit in the physical form of Kevin Love.While we are all waiting and not getting any work to do, I thought this article - Premium picks rarely lead to titles - was an interesting read. Here's a part:
Since the lottery began in 1985, only four No. 1 picks have led the team that drafted them to an NBA championship: David Robinson, Tim Duncan, LeBron James and Kyrie Irving.
Robinson never won a title without Duncan, but Duncan won three without Robinson. So technically Duncan is the only No. 1 pick without a second No. 1 pick on the team to lead his original franchise to a title. LeBron left Cleveland before he won a title, spent four years in Miami and waited for the Cavs to assemble the necessary pieces (one of which was Irving) before rejoining them and leading them to a championship in 2016.
So if there's this much potential movement to get to 4, is word out among teams that Tatum is our guy?Pre-draft buzz: SA among those looking to get to 4 to take Josh Jackson. FWIW: Suns went hard after Aldridge when he was a UFA.
It always amazes me how many people forget the math of winning championships. In a thirty team league you have a very, very small number of rings to go around.
The percentage of free agent signings and trades that league to a championship is also very small. And then there's the fact that the teams that win the #1 pick tend to be really, really bad.
Bennett was not an asset used to acquire Love, he was salary filler. He is quite probably the worst #1 pick ever made.Arguably, Anthony Bennett and Andrew Wiggins (both #1 picks) also led to the Cavs' championship albeit in the physical form of Kevin Love.
This gets stated over and over again, but it's wrong. While his value had fallen dramatically in his first year there was still an expectation that he'd round into a useful rotation player.Bennett was not an asset used to acquire Love, he was salary filler. He is quite probably the worst #1 pick ever made.
Just a little pushback on the Robinson-Duncan piece from that 1998-99 Spurs' championship team.So to me, that's one(Duncan) not four. It's s little too cute on the LBJ angle and Kyrie and the Admiral are Robins not Batman.
Man, what is he supposed to say? We are excited about Wiggins and Bennett is also there? Everyone in the league knew Bennett was a throw in. Dude was terrrrrrrrible!This gets stated over and over again, but it's wrong. While his value had fallen dramatically in his first year there was still an expectation that he'd round into a useful rotation player.
That shows the Wolves putting a positive spin on a recent trade. Of course they didn't say that the #1 pick from a year ago was part of the trade as salary filler. That doesn't make it not true that he was. Look at the general reporting of Bennett's rookie season and you'll see it repeatedly discussed as "historically bad" and his being on track to be the worst #1 pick ever. As just one example, look at https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2014/1/14/5305228/anthony-bennett-rookie-season-statistics-cleveland-cavaliers.This gets stated over and over again, but it's wrong. While his value had fallen dramatically in his first year there was still an expectation that he'd round into a useful rotation player.
Look at the espn link after the trade: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/11397368/kevin-love-traded-minnesota-timberwolves-cleveland-cavaliers
"Adding Wiggins, Bennett and Young along with first-round draft pick Zach LaVine transforms the Wolves into a far more dynamic team around pass-happy point guard Ricky Rubio.
'With the additions of Wiggins, Bennett and Zach LaVine this summer, we have brought in three exciting young athletes who all have the potential to have an impact in this league," Saunders said. "All three of them complement each other very well and we believe they will be foundations of our team for years to come.'"
Just out of curiosity, I looked up a few of the guys being mentioned a bunch today in various talks (none of whom were #1 picks, I know):That shows the Wolves putting a positive spin on a recent trade. Of course they didn't say that the #1 pick from a year ago was part of the trade as salary filler. That doesn't make it not true that he was. Look at the general reporting of Bennett's rookie season and you'll see it repeatedly discussed as "historically bad" and his being on track to be the worst #1 pick ever. As just one example, look at https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2014/1/14/5305228/anthony-bennett-rookie-season-statistics-cleveland-cavaliers.
It's Porzingis.The more interesting question is the player Ainge would want, no?
How LaRue Martin has been forgotten, and justifiably so...Bennett was not an asset used to acquire Love, he was salary filler. He is quite probably the worst #1 pick ever made.
Yeah, clearly great things were expected of Bennett...This gets stated over and over again, but it's wrong. While his value had fallen dramatically in his first year there was still an expectation that he'd round into a useful rotation player.
Look at the espn link after the trade: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/11397368/kevin-love-traded-minnesota-timberwolves-cleveland-cavaliers
"Adding Wiggins, Bennett and Young along with first-round draft pick Zach LaVine transforms the Wolves into a far more dynamic team around pass-happy point guard Ricky Rubio.
'With the additions of Wiggins, Bennett and Zach LaVine this summer, we have brought in three exciting young athletes who all have the potential to have an impact in this league," Saunders said. "All three of them complement each other very well and we believe they will be foundations of our team for years to come.'"
#3 for #7 and Dieng?Yeah, having trouble figuring this one out. #7 for Smart's an overpay. #7 for Bradley's an overpay.
Zizic, maybe? No idea,
Paul George.The more interesting question is the player Ainge would want, no?
No. And they want to acquire 7 so they can package it with 3 to trade for Porzingis.#3 for #7 and Dieng?
Exactly.....the Minny talks for 7 are to have a contingency plan in place if we move 3 for Kristaps or George. It would depend on who the guy is at 7.....if Smith is there moving Avery makes sense to push each guard up the depth chart a notch while securing rookie-contract years and not losing Avery to FA next season. If it my binky Markkanen then it is Olynyk out the door for the same reasons.No. And they want to acquire 7 so they can package it with 3 to trade for Porzingis.
I was looking for same info as I don't recall exact time in the past. Couldn't find it anywhere, but looks like based on times of tweets from last year's draft, the picks actually start around 7:30pm.Coverage starts at 7. Anyone know when to expect first pick? I'm flying solo with the kid tonight, gotta make sure bed time is completed