I’d say no, too. Let’s win a fucking title.My bad. SA definitely says no. They’re not playing for anything this year so trading a future 1st doesn’t make any sense for them.
I’d say no, too. Let’s win a fucking title.My bad. SA definitely says no. They’re not playing for anything this year so trading a future 1st doesn’t make any sense for them.
God, I hope they do. He's shown flashes of something very special, with some of his spin moves around the basket, in the pre-season. He's a real spark plug too. And he had a good line about the Celtics' poor play in the pre-season, saying the team was acting like it had already won something. He's going to give it all every night. I know they can't pay everyone, but I'd like to see him around for a few years.BRobb writes that they may be working on an extension with Rozier with a quote from Rozier that he's at least considering it.
I don't think that Melton can be packaged with another contract yet. And the only team with cap space left to make it all work is the Kings. There'd still need to be something the Kings wanted as filler, but there's at least potential there. Melton would be a decent get as the fourth guard.Any team trading a decent pg to the Suns will want an unprotected first round pick, which will almost certainly be in the top 5 or 6. Bender has value as expiring fodder if the deal is done before 10/31.
Bender and Melton (or Bridges) plus an unprotected first rounder for Rozier
That is hilarious. Glen Taylor will be thrilled to see this story on ESPN.Wow, this doesn't sound awkward at all. Just straight up yelling at the coaches and FO.
Indeed. Wonder wtf happened. Thibs knew him well and made the move for him. So weirdButler seems like a nutcase.
Seriously, he's on ESPN this very second getting interviewed. Definitely a power play by Butler.Seems like it was a leverage play by Butler - just so happened Rachel Nichols was in Minn to do an in person espn interview after all this took place -
I’m assuming Thibs never thought Butler would go this route.
Per Woj....Butler took 4 bench guys, challenged the starters, beat them, talked shit, then mic-dropped out the door.Indeed. Wonder wtf happened. Thibs knew him well and made the move for him. So weird
Here is the thing. What does this even mean??Wow, this doesn't sound awkward at all. Just straight up yelling at the coaches and FO.
"I'm going to be trouble if you don't trade me."Here is the thing. What does this even mean??
A hypercompetitive guy yelling ‘cmon tibs! Let do it this year! This is our year!’
Or a disgruntled superstar ‘see tibs you suck!! Get me outta here! Be better!’
Trade KAT to accommodate a 30 year old wing with a ton of mileage? Wiggins... harder to argue assuming anyone will take that contract.Per Woj....Butler took 4 bench guys, challenged the starters, beat them, talked shit, then mic-dropped out the door.
This is the type of player you keep.....screw KAT and Wiggins along with their softness. Trade them!
That was part hyperbole (re:KAT)......but not much more so than Butler being a 30-year old with a ton of mileage. He's 29 and has been a full-time starter for only 5 seasons.Trade KAT to accommodate a 30 year old wing with a ton of mileage? Wiggins... harder to argue assuming anyone will take that contract.
"I'm going to be trouble no matter what you do.""I'm going to be trouble if you don't trade me."
*full time starter (he has only averaged 67 games played over those 5 season)That was part hyperbole (re:KAT)......but not much more so than Butler being a 30-year old with a ton of mileage. He's 29 and has been a full-time starter for only 5 seasons.
and 37.6 mpg. I wonder why.*full time starter (he has only averaged 67 games played over those 5 season)
Durant has averaged 62 in that time. Anthony Davis 68. You're making it sound like Butler is Chandler Parsons. He has 15,000 career regular season minutes...….Durant has 2x, LeBron 3x. There is no reason to believe that there isn't a ton of miles left on Jimmy Butler's legs......he's about 13k short of cracking the All-Time Top 250 in Minutes Played to this point.*full time starter (he has only averaged 67 games played over those 5 season)
How relevant is that though? Are you saying missing time due to injury is beneficial to a player later in his career because less minutes? Is a player warming the bench until he's 24 more likely to last longer in the NBA than the guy who was starting at 20? And what is better for the legs, playing 30 mpg for 10 years straight or playing 37 mpg for 5 years straight?Durant has averaged 62 in that time. Anthony Davis 68. You're making it sound like Butler is Chandler Parsons. He has 15,000 career regular season minutes...….Durant has 2x, LeBron 3x. There is no reason to believe that there isn't a ton of miles left on Jimmy Butler's legs......he's about 13k short of cracking the All-Time Top 250 in Minutes Played to this point.
I am in the camp that finds these numbers and how they relate to career ending/slowing injuries to be extremely misleading without additional player profile information.....which is why my head explodes each year when I read posts about LeBron's minutes and what he has left in the tank for the playoffs. Players genetic makeups are not created equally.How relevant is that though? Are you saying missing time due to injury is beneficial to a player later in his career because less minutes? Is a player warming the bench until he's 24 more likely to last longer in the NBA than the guy who was starting at 20? And what is better for the legs, playing 30 mpg for 10 years straight or playing 37 mpg for 5 years straight?
I agree with your main point. I'd guess Butler still has at least 4-5 good years left since he just turned 29. Considering he's a top 15 talent, he probably has even more than that since his game can decline some and he'd still be above average.
Thank you.Woj is the best in the business at breaking news, but I hate it when he uses his power to plant stories for agents and executives that he has relationships with. I know he's not alone in doing it, but somehow his just comes off really tacky sometimes.
A lot of Minnesota players left Timberwolves practice today energized by Butler's performance, mesmerized with him taking end-of-the-bench players and running the table on the regulars, sources said. At the end, he marched out like if a mic drop. Butler delivered a tour de force.
These are embarrassing.At one point in a scrimmage, sources said, Butler turned to GM Scott Layden and screamed, "You (bleeping) need me. You can't win without me." Butler left teammates and coaches largely speechless. He dominated the gym in every way. Jimmy's back.
Leaving your teammates energized and inspired is embarrassing? That teams young players need to do more embarrassing of themselves if this is the case.These are embarrassing.
I dunno. I think Wiggins is so bad he makes everyone else look bad too. They would literally be a better team if they benched him and played just about anyone else. He just sucks so bad.Leaving your teammates energized and inspired is embarrassing? That teams young players need to do more embarrassing of themselves if this is the case.
I think she's saying it's embarrassing for Someone like Woj to be using his rep to print something as transparently water-carrying for an agent's desired narrative as that.Leaving your teammates energized and inspired is embarrassing? That teams young players need to do more embarrassing of themselves if this is the case.
I meant for Woj. Was it:Leaving your teammates energized and inspired is embarrassing? That teams young players need to do more embarrassing of themselves if this is the case.
Or start a club with @amfox1 .@InstaFace I should probably change my avatar. And username. (I'm a guy.)
Please ignore that PM. Thanks, HRB@InstaFace I should probably change my avatar. And username. (I'm a guy.)
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24973763/new-york-knicks-waive-joakim-noahAfter waiving Joakim Noah on Saturday, the New York Knicks will use the stretch provision on the remaining year of his contract to clear cap space in an effort to pursue top free agents in the summer of 2019, league sources told ESPN.
Using the stretch provision reduces Noah's cap hit of $19.3 million in 2019-20 to $6.4 million, saving the team $12.9 million toward the salary cap. Stretching his contract, though, will cost the Knicks $6.4 million in cap space in the summers of 2020 and 2021.
I haven't watched a minute of preseason basketball, but FWIW, from what I'm reading from Hawks fans, Trae's passing vision is looking so good that he has the potential to become an excellent player even if he never becomes a truly elite shooter.This is technically an atrocious shot to take, but oh my:
I’m high on Young and think people are sleeping on his court vision, it’s as good as anyone else’s in the league.I haven't watched a minute of preseason basketball, but FWIW, from what I'm reading from Hawks fans, Trae's passing vision is looking so good that he has the potential to become an excellent player even if he never becomes a truly elite shooter.
It was Young's size/strength and in particular how these physical limitations would affect him defensively. The list of strength in order were almost universally 1) shooting with range and 2) court vision/passingWasn’t it cited as one of his strengths coming out? I thought the only real knocks on him were his size and the fact he came out of nowhere?
Bobby MarksVerified account @BobbyMarks42If the Knicks are interested in tanking this season they should be starting Noah.
His usage rate was #1 in the entire country as the teams primary ballhandler, scorer, and distributor so naturally he was going to make more "poor decisions" than anyone else in his game. With the spotlight on Young it was easy for those with agendas to pinpoint those possessions and he seemed to wear down as the conference season went on which I felt had a lot to do with gameplanning specifically to attack him with traps and multiple defenders switching. He led the country in turnovers however using that number without context will tell a false story on Young's skillset. While i was/is semi-cool as him being an NBA star I certainly wouldn't consider him "turnover prone" at all last season in college.Isn't his decision making questionable too? I remember him being very turnover prone but I'm not a big CBB guy.