1) Generally there’s a buyout involved when waiving a player where the player accepts less than the full contract amount, so the team saves cash that way. Releasing a player without a buyout offers no relief and players are usually willing to take the buyout rather than be stuck on a team that doesn’t want to play them.OK, so it's simply mechanics for releasing a player, rather than tinkering with the contracts for a player you want to keep around.
Are the following true?
1) Other than option years, NBA contracts are all fully guaranteed, so releasing players offers no relief relative to the total obligations on the contract, other than the "stretch" ability to spread the payments and/or cap hit on remaining years over a longer period of time.
2) Only teams over the cap, and really only teams in the luxury tax, would generally prefer to stretch a released player, because of the multiplier-based savings to them. Teams under the cap would prefer to take cap hits upfront, both to hit the salary floor as well as to preserve cap optionality in future years (unless maybe it's right at the start of free agency).
3) Teams get no offsetting relief if another team signs a released player, you still owe every dime of what you promised them.
I’m going with Houston here since they can offer the Ariza starting spot. LA may be the more desirable location but how many minutes would he get with LeBron, Ingram, Kuzma, Stephenson, etc.?Melo would do wonders for the development of Ingram and Kuzma, too, lolz.
Houston seems like a much better (or less bad) hoops fit; we’ll see how CP3’s powers of persuasion compare to Magic and LeBron’s.
Another good move for OKC, who may be quietly moving up the WC ladder.
(1) is not true. Various years in contracts can be guaranteed, partially guaranteed, or non-guaranteed.OK, so it's simply mechanics for releasing a player, rather than tinkering with the contracts for a player you want to keep around.
Are the following true?
1) Other than option years, NBA contracts are all fully guaranteed, so releasing players offers no relief relative to the total obligations on the contract, other than the "stretch" ability to spread the payments and/or cap hit on remaining years over a longer period of time.
2) Only teams over the cap, and really only teams in the luxury tax, would generally prefer to stretch a released player, because of the multiplier-based savings to them. Teams under the cap would prefer to take cap hits upfront, both to hit the salary floor as well as to preserve cap optionality in future years (unless maybe it's right at the start of free agency).
3) Teams get no offsetting relief if another team signs a released player, you still owe every dime of what you promised them.
I think that they are 4/5 yeah but while I like him a fair amount as a back up center they have two centers already so.... Not that cheap for a third strong centerIndiana quietly assembling quite the solid little roster — possibly in the top 4 with BOS, PHI, TOR?
Would that help our pick, or are they so abject that even Melo would add some wins?The Kings are my Melo sleeper.
Gawd would it be awesome if the Kings gave him something like 2/35 to be their "vet presence" helping Boston to the second pick in the process.The Kings are my Melo sleeper.
Wow; that’s a surprise.
Tony Parker has agreed to a two-year $10M deal with Charlotte, per league source tells ESPN.
Does this change Kawhi’s opinion at all? Parker was the main teammate who called him out.
Tony Parker has agreed to a two-year $10M deal with Charlotte, per league source tells ESPN.
Tony Parker has agreed to a two-year $10M deal with Charlotte, per league source tells ESPN.
Yes, banging your teammate’s wife is usually considered poor.I believe Parker was known as a poor teammate most of his career, which made his Kawhi comments surprising at the time. Now he moves on after messing up the Spurs relationship with Kawhi. That is the most Tony Parker thing possible.
LOL perfect. Kings gonna Kings. That pick is golden. Please Bulls, do not match.
BingoI’m starting to get very worried about that #1 protection
13% at most, baby.I’m starting to get very worried about that #1 protection
If Rondo doesn't have the highest basketball IQ in the NBA he is in the conversation. Same with LeBron. They will figure out a way to play together because that is who they are.Really? While it's not out of the question that they mesh, I think the more likely scenario is that they get into a fist fight at some point during the year.
What's LBJ going to do while RR is pounding the ball and probing probing probing looking to make the highlight play?
What's RR going to do when LBJ takes his guy down to the block?
Plus, it's not like RR plays a ton of defense. Someone mentioned Wayne Ellington upthread. Surprised LAL didn't go get him.
And already a 100% chance that they won the trade even if it becomes #1.13% at most, baby.
Yikes. These are awful contracts. Keep Smart away from sharp objects tonight.
teams sneaking out of the woodwork tonight.
Nobody was a bigger Rondo detractor when he was here than I was...….but you cannot question his understanding of the game. It's like in the top half of 1 percent of all time. There is the stories of him calling opponents sets before the 1 even initiated the play. One misnomer today is that he can't shoot......since he left Boston he's hit 3's at a very respectable 35.7% clip on over 500 attempts.If Rondo doesn't have the highest basketball IQ in the NBA he is in the conversation. Same with LeBron. They will figure out a way to play together because that is who they are.
The knock on Rondo has been motivation and consistent effort. His best games came in the spotlight on national TV. He is hugely competitive and a great defender when he applies himself. If he is playing next to arguably the greatest player of all time, he will find a way to take it to the next level.
I watched him from my seats for many many years. Not only is he going to blow out Ball in the preseason for the starting gig, we're going to see some of his best work in years. That's my best guess.
We'll see though. It could blow up. I'm pretty biased but that's how I'm calling it.
Nobody was a bigger Rondo detractor when he was here than I was...….but you cannot question his understanding of the game. It's like in the top half of 1 percent of all time. There is the stories of him calling opponents sets before the 1 even initiated the play. One misnomer today is that he can't shoot......since he left Boston he's hit 3's at a very respectable 35.7% clip on over 500 attempts.
Good call. I'd still have us about equal as I wanted him signed to a big contract about as much as I do Smart.....he was just more of a colossal a-hole about it while I was simply an ordinary one.Brick was definitely a bigger Rondo detractor.
Even though they have no incentive to tank I think that seems a very likely outcome13% at most, baby.
100% if you get a late first for it. Cool. After one year.And already a 100% chance that they won the trade even if it becomes #1.
Late first, lotto first, who cares. Fultz has astronomically far to go to catch up. Happy to eat my words if he does it.Even though they have no incentive to tank I think that seems a very likely outcome
100% if you get a late first for it. Cool. After one year.
Because we cannot possibly wait for judgement.
I like this move for the Bulls. Before he got hurt, LaVine was on his way to making a leap as an offensive player. He has the skillset to become a lead-dog scorer and the Bulls lack the star power that might attract other elite players. LaVine may turn out to be a pretty good bargain for this contract.Bulls matched the offer to LaVine. Unbelievable because if they did not match they'd have 2 max slots open next year.
And if he continues to get hurt, it's an albatross.I like this move for the Bulls. Before he got hurt, LaVine was on his way to making a leap as an offensive player. He has the skillset to become a lead-dog scorer and the Bulls lack the star power that might attract other elite players. LaVine may turn out to be a pretty good bargain for this contract.
IDK, I think Chicago itself (if not its current players) still has some cachet left even after the glory years. It's not like Sacramento, where they almost have no choice but to overpay to get a FA to consider it.the Bulls lack the star power that might attract other elite players.
Astronomically? That's a bit much. He just needs to outscore Tatum by 23.6 ppg in a playoff series in which the Sixers beat the Celtics and, voila, he has caught up. That's all.Late first, lotto first, who cares. Fultz has astronomically far to go to catch up. Happy to eat my words if he does it.
I agree with this. LaVine and Exum were signed based on future projected production. Each have the type of elite athleticism to have the type of upside to warrant these deals should they continue to grow their floor games and shooting.I like this move for the Bulls. Before he got hurt, LaVine was on his way to making a leap as an offensive player. He has the skillset to become a lead-dog scorer and the Bulls lack the star power that might attract other elite players. LaVine may turn out to be a pretty good bargain for this contract.
Well that is true of any contract. Also, per this story on ESPN, the offer sheet includes an exhibit that protects the team financially should LaVine suffer a serious injury to his surgically repaired left knee, league sources told ESPN.And if he continues to get hurt, it's an albatross.
This may be true but all signs point to stars being the new destination for the NBA versus geography or franchise cachet. All the stars want to play with one another for the reasons that we've discussed on this forum. The Bulls need stars and aside from Markkanen, LaVine is the next best bet. If he resumes his growth, he compliments Lauri pretty well and puts the Bulls in a better position to attract other FAs.IDK, I think Chicago itself (if not its current players) still has some cachet left even after the glory years. It's not like Sacramento, where they almost have no choice but to overpay to get a FA to consider it.
We've been discussing how Parker just took a deal from Charlotte, on this same page of this very thread. Am I missing a joke?That money in this offseason. Man. Someone asked who's next, I have to think Parker gets that offer before Smart yeah?
Jabari, not TonyWe've been discussing how Parker just took a deal from Charlotte, on this same page of this very thread. Am I missing a joke?
Bad optics of losing the centerpiece of moving Butler last summer.Bulls matched the offer to LaVine. Unbelievable because if they did not match they'd have 2 max slots open next year.
Apparently not good enough to be a memorable Parker lolJabari, not Tony
Was it ? I mean, it is the right move but should it be considered a “good” move? It is arguably a top 3 most obvious move in NBA history.Another good move for OKC, who may be quietly moving up the WC ladder.