Bonus points don’t double. 10 beating the 2 gets you 10 points. 2 for the second round and 8 bonus points. The surprising thing thing about Honsel picking Loyola is he only got 1 bonus point last round as he had them beating Texas a 10 seed.
It's not gaming the system if you know exactly the route you need to go.Fair enough, I totally respect that. We just need to be cognizant of people trying to game the system.
I don't even see the logic. The rules are clearly spelled out. Theoretically, everyone can "game" the system.It's not gaming the system if you know exactly the route you need to go.
Here's why this breaks down:I'd be curious to see how many points a theoretical bracket would have if it took all 1 seeds to the Final Four but upsets in all of the other games, but had the correct winner. Like this year if you project Villanova to win it all and got that right and chose upsets in basically every other game, would you be ahead of the field? Or what if you picked the correct winner overall and picked an upset in literally every other game including the other 1 vs 16 games? I have no idea where that bracket would stand, but if it is even close then that points to picking a bracket that is more about strategy than about actually picking games. That's boring to me.
Michigan over Villanova gets me 3rd place.Thought that Duke loss was the dagger, but looks like Nova over Michigan will still do it. I’ll be in the minority not pulling for Loyola next weekend.
Thanks for thisHere's why this breaks down:
Picking all 1s then nailing Final 4 results:
Round 1: 29 points. Awesome.
Round 2: 4 points. (Nova and Kansas as #1's). That's it. Loyola nets you 0 because you'd be picking the upset, the 14th seeded Wright St who you picked to beat Tennessee. You'd go 2-14 in round 2. The FSU over Xavier upset? You're picking #1's.
If you switched this to picking the overall winner and upsets everywhere else? A bit better:
Round 1: 45 points, adding in the UMBC win.
Round 2: You'd lose the points for Kansas (let's just assume Nova wins) because you'd pick the upset. So, that's it, just Nova's points--2 of them.
Round 3: You're only getting points for Villanova, so 4 more, up to 51.
Round 4: You only have Villanova alive, so 8 more points, up to 59.
You'd be in 233rd place. Out of 286.
So, long story short (I may be off a tiny bit, but nothing big) what you were thinking might happen doesn't. Essentially because there aren't as many upsets as you think, and those second round upsets that actually happen? In these brackets you describe you'd be picking 16th seeds to win again.
Michigan over Kansas gets me 4th.Michigan over Villanova gets me 3rd place.
If Nova beats Michigan he will most certainly not win.So Erik will be a big Loyola fan. If they win he will take 4 of the 5 top spots. He’s not guaranteed to win. If Kansas wins or if Nova beats Michigan he won’t win.
Any chance it is Honsel?It was a good weekend for payments. I am now down to one person who I've sent a couple of emails and I haven't heard back. I'll keep trying so the prizes will be:
1st $2785
2nd $1393
3rd $668
4th $445
5th $279
Do you feel good about your tiebreaker number?One more win. Come on ‘Nova!
Looks like I have the over. I’ll take that the way Nova is playing.Do you feel good about your tiebreaker number?
Almost $1,400 is a nice consolation.Looks like I have the over. I’ll take that the way Nova is playing.
Agreed. Michigan just couldn’t make any shots. I’ll take it...thanks for running!Almost $1,400 is a nice consolation.
I think I have been in this for about 10 years now, and I see no reason to change it. It was a bit disheartening halfway through to think Honsel could score 3 out of the 5 prize slots and walk away with $3-4K, but in the end he won I think $1100.So done for another year. During the tournament we had a little discussion about the scoring. My biggest thing about not changing it is I've done it this way for 20 years. But are there any changes I should think about?
My only suggestion would be to raise the ante. Otherwise, this pool is awesome.So done for another year. During the tournament we had a little discussion about the scoring. My biggest thing about not changing it is I've done it this way for 20 years. But are there any changes I should think about?
So, people entering more than one bracket have caused you to stop entering more than one bracket?Dan, it seems to me there has been a growing amount of players playing 5-10 brackets in recent years. With it being an upset bonus pool and growing the amount of entries I know it makes sense but to me it's a bit of a turn off. I still play but have dropped down to just one entry this year.