Fierce defense, big potent WR, and, oh yeah, THE SUPERBOWL IS IN FUCKING MINNESOTA.Yea 3 1/2 sounds about right. I see this being low scoring. Something like 13-17.
The real question is who do the Pats root for ? I think the Pats matchup a lot better with Philly.
Minny might have a helluva interesting QB situation next year if Keenum wins next week.
Lotta first round picks set on fire there. Imagine how good they’d be if they’d spent them wisely.Is BridgeH20 even that good. Just resign C.K. and trade the other 2.
Teddy Bridgewater was a hell of a QB before he got injured. The fact he was deactivated before today’s game (after serving as backup for 2 months) tells me that he’s not close to the same QB and that his days in Minnesota are probably numbered.Is BridgeH20 even that good. Just resign C.K. and trade the other 2.
So the ticket breakdown is:Fierce defense, big potent WR, and, oh yeah, THE SUPERBOWL IS IN FUCKING MINNESOTA.
Go Eagles.
Presumably the secondary market will change those percentages, and if the locals are both extra motivated and also don't have to pay for flights and hotels so they can throw those savings at the tickets alone, pretty easy to imagine a fairly Vikings-heavy crowd.So the ticket breakdown is:
• 17.5% to each team
• 5% to the host team
• 34.8% divides up among all the other teams
• 25.2% to the NFL and generally goes to corporate sponsors and media
So the home field advantage may not be too bad.
Sunk cost though—-pick the right guy and trade the surplus.Lotta first round picks set on fire there. Imagine how good they’d be if they’d spent them wisely.
The NFC was supposed.to get the visiting locker room. For some.inexplicable reason NFL will reverse this if Vikings make it.So the ticket breakdown is:
• 17.5% to each team
• 5% to the host team
• 34.8% divides up among all the other teams
• 25.2% to the NFL and generally goes to corporate sponsors and media
So the home field advantage may not be too bad.
Teddy has potential to be an elite QB, but he certainly hasn't shown it in the small amount of time he's played:Teddy Bridgewater was a hell of a QB before he got injured. The fact he was deactivated before today’s game (after serving as backup for 2 months) tells me that he’s not close to the same QB and that his days in Minnesota are probably numbered.
I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.Teddy has potential to be an elite QB, but he certainly hasn't shown it in the small amount of time he's played:
Over 28 games started (30 total), he's had an ANYPA of 5.5, with an INT% around 2.5. Of course, this was as a 22 and 23 year old, so it'll be interesting to see what happens with him in 2018.
Case Keenum looked worse as a 25 and 26 year old for the Texans, but he looked much better as a 27 year old for the terrible 2015 Rams (6.47 ANYPA). Including this year with minnesota (~ 7 ANYPA), Case has a career 6 ANYPA.
In other words, Case Keenum just put up a season-long performance better than Matt Ryan's; this is something Bridgewater has never done, though he's never really been given the opportunity to do so.
It's not actually inexplicable though.The NFC was supposed.to get the visiting locker room. For some.inexplicable reason NFL will reverse this if Vikings make it.
I mean...it sort of is. The event is supposed to be at a neutral site. It always has been. The league should, you would think, be working overtime to do what it can to level the field in what may be a highly unprecedented situation (particularly considering that was the original plan). THey should both be in an unusual environment, no?It's not actually inexplicable though.
I'm not convinced this is true at all.The NFC was supposed.to get the visiting locker room. For some.inexplicable reason NFL will reverse this if Vikings make it.
AFC was supposed.to get the Vikings practice facility. This will also get reversed.
Plus the Vikings get to sleep.in their own beds and avoid travel. It's work, not a vacation.
Home field advantage has little to do with what happens after the game starts.
Go eagles.
Athleticism? Bridgewater's not a bad athlete, but he's pretty much a pocket guy. He had 170 total rushing yards in three years of college. His NFL.com profile coming out said "Adequate athlete. Is not an overly elusive scrambler -- struggles escaping the rush and buying a second chance with his feet vs. pressure."I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.
I did not claim that Bridgewater was an elite QB. I claimed that he was a “hell of a QB” based on the fact that his athleticism was unquestioned and his talent was beginning to blossom.
I should add that using combined stats from Bridgewater’s age 22 and 23 seasons to evaluate his potential is a bit misleading, since his performance was on an upward trajectory.
The larger point is that his potential to become an elite QB was closely aligned with his athleticism. The Vikings have had 2 months to judge his recovery in practice since he was activated and they responded by making him inactive for yesterday’s game. It is incredibly unlikely that he will be with them going forward.
Keenum had a good year. He’s also a known quantity at age 30. He will never be an elite QB. But he’s likely to be the Vikings’ QB going forward.
Athleticism is not always a euphemism for “a quarterback who rushes the ball.”Athleticism? Bridgewater's not a bad athlete, but he's pretty much a pocket guy. He had 170 total rushing yards in three years of college. His NFL.com profile coming out said "Adequate athlete. Is not an overly elusive scrambler -- struggles escaping the rush and buying a second chance with his feet vs. pressure."
You mean the one they blow on a penalty vs the other team too?Presumably that horn won’t be blowing if the Vikes make it.
I can't provide a link, but read in the last couple of days the league has a plan in place to reduce home field advantage if necessary. Things like requiring Minn to lodge in a hotel rather stay at home. Ensuring they use a different practice/training facility so it isn't comfortable, etc. We'll see how it plays out of course.I'm not convinced this is true at all.
Home field advantage is more plausibly related to referees subconsciously calling more penalties on away teams, home teams not having to deal with crowd noise on offense, and the subconscious benefits of playing in a familiar environment for players making split second instinctual decisions on every play.
Assuming the tickets end up being split fairly evenly, I don't think the first two factors will be in play. The third is inescapable though.
Where you practice or sleep seem likely to be much less significant factors, especially during Super Bowl week, when teams travel early.
Yeah I thought this too but recently have red some.things that lead me to.think they will.not.do thisI can't provide a link, but read in the last couple of days the league has a plan in place to reduce home field advantage if necessary. Things like requiring Minn to lodge in a hotel rather stay at home. Ensuring they use a different practice/training facility so it isn't comfortable, etc. We'll see how it plays out of course.
I was just going to say, escaping the annual 3am hotel fire alarm pull would be pretty unfair.I can't provide a link, but read in the last couple of days the league has a plan in place to reduce home field advantage if necessary. Things like requiring Minn to lodge in a hotel rather stay at home. Ensuring they use a different practice/training facility so it isn't comfortable, etc. We'll see how it plays out of course.
I thought this too but I think it was only because the penalty resulted in a first down. That said they blow that thing too often.You mean the one they blow on a penalty vs the other team too?
The Vikings in the 1970's used to be a stoic, old school franchise; now they are a bunch of yahoos, the turnaround is pathetic and sad.
I agree with this. I also do not want the 49ers to win this weekend.My preferences, if the Pats win
1. Anyone but Atlanta
2. Eagles
3. Super Bowl canceled
4. Weather makes Minny stadium unplayable
5. Minny
Thanks for the correction, wasn't aware of that. Makes sense I guess, a positive result.I thought this too but I think it was only because the penalty resulted in a first down. That said they blow that thing too often.
I can't speak to the MN facility but it is a known fact Gillette is built to disadvantage the away team. The tunnel for the away team takes you around the stadium adding a few min to the time it takes to get to the locker room compared to the Pats who walk almost directly into the locker room from the sidelines. When you only have 15min at half-time an extra 3-5min is certainly valuable. Obviously in the SB you have a longer half-time so that advantage is diminished but I'd be very surprised if a brand new stadium wasn't built to give the home team a more advantageous locker room experience. Then again this is MN so perhaps the away locker room is the place to be.I'm not convinced this is true at all.
Home field advantage is more plausibly related to referees subconsciously calling more penalties on away teams, home teams not having to deal with crowd noise on offense, and the subconscious benefits of playing in a familiar environment for players making split second instinctual decisions on every play.
Assuming the tickets end up being split fairly evenly, I don't think the first two factors will be in play. The third is inescapable though.
Where you practice or sleep seem likely to be much less significant factors, especially during Super Bowl week, when teams travel early.
They blew the horn on a kick off touchback.Thanks for the correction, wasn't aware of that. Makes sense I guess, a positive result.
Back when I lived there (‘86 -‘89) they blew the horn after every action/occurrence that could be interpreted as being positive for the Vikings.They blew the horn on a kick off touchback.
Ok, that's a reach.They blew the horn on a kick off touchback.
Is it a real Gjallarhorn they blow, too bad they don't play outdoors anymore as there's a good shot of it shattering to pieces like the time it did vs Seattle, wasn't the air temperature below zero for that game?Back when I lived there (‘86 -‘89) they blew the horn after every action/occurrence that could be interpreted as being positive for the Vikings.
The NFL controls the facility for the Super Bowl. There is not going to be a horn.
This, plus, I've read several studies that indicate a very large component of home field advantage is simply familiarity with one's surroundings and that people put too much stock in the effect of the crowd. This makes a lot of sense to me.Presumably the secondary market will change those percentages, and if the locals are both extra motivated and also don't have to pay for flights and hotels so they can throw those savings at the tickets alone, pretty easy to imagine a fairly Vikings-heavy crowd.
Go Eagles if the Pats take care of business first, otherwise go Vikings, that fan base deserves a Super Bowl berth, at least
No. the SI piece made it clear that originally the AFC was going to get the Vikings facilities, and NFC was to practice at a college. The NFL does everything they can to make accommodations comparable, but if Vikings are in it, all of it will be flipped and Vikings would use own facility.I can't provide a link, but read in the last couple of days the league has a plan in place to reduce home field advantage if necessary. Things like requiring Minn to lodge in a hotel rather stay at home. Ensuring they use a different practice/training facility so it isn't comfortable, etc. We'll see how it plays out of course.
they don’t mention locker room in the piece that I remember.For Super Bowl LII, the NFC champion is assigned to practice at the University of Minnesota’s indoor facilities, while the AFC winners will be at the Vikings’ Winter Park facility. But should the Vikings reach Super Bowl LII, that will flip, allowing Minnesota to practice at its home facility.
“We are very focused on making sure that the two facilities are equitable, and our football operations side takes a lot of time to make sure the two facilities that we’re delivering to the two Super Bowl teams have equivalent facilities in terms of space, opportunity for meeting rooms and access to facilities and weight rooms,” O’Reilly says. “A lot of time and energy goes into that. If you’re in your own facility it’s what you know and you’re comfortable with that.
Fair enough, my apologies. I took "hell of a QB" to mean that he's an elite NFL QB. If you meant that he had the potential to become elite, then I agree entirely.I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.
I did not claim that Bridgewater was an elite QB. I claimed that he was a “hell of a QB” based on the fact that his athleticism was unquestioned and his talent was beginning to blossom.
I should add that using combined stats from Bridgewater’s age 22 and 23 seasons to evaluate his potential is a bit misleading, since his performance was on an upward trajectory.
The larger point is that his potential to become an elite QB was closely aligned with his athleticism. The Vikings have had 2 months to judge his recovery in practice since he was activated and they responded by making him inactive for yesterday’s game. It is incredibly unlikely that he will be with them going forward.
Keenum had a good year. He’s also a known quantity at age 30. He will never be an elite QB. But he’s likely to be the Vikings’ QB going forward.
I felt the same. He made some very poor decisions that luckily didn't come back to bite him.I don’t know about you guys, but Keenum’s performance on Sunday didn’t really pass the eye test. He threw some really questionable passes that were fortunate to not have ended up as INTs and his receivers did make some great plays on the ball to turn awkward passes into big plays. His interception was one of the worst throws of the season by any QB and I just don’t have a ton of confidence in him playing on the road this week. I wouldn’t be surprised if he turned it over three times.
Keenum could turn it over 3X and MN may still win the T/O battle. Foles showed nothing vs a pedestrian ATL D. MN is going to be a significantly tougher match-up. He doesn't have the arm, accuracy or mobility to make plays against them.I don’t know about you guys, but Keenum’s performance on Sunday didn’t really pass the eye test. He threw some really questionable passes that were fortunate to not have ended up as INTs and his receivers did make some great plays on the ball to turn awkward passes into big plays. His interception was one of the worst throws of the season by any QB and I just don’t have a ton of confidence in him playing on the road this week. I wouldn’t be surprised if he turned it over three times.