2019 ALCS - Yankees vs. Astros - General Gamethread

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Justin Verlander sits down with the Fox crew, and once again, big hugs and back slaps with Papi, polite handshake with ARod.
 

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I will not be surprised if the Yankees try to move on from him. The guy seems to be on the outs with not just the fans in NY but the team as well.
Realmuto would have given them another DJ-like tough out that their lineup really needed. Really glad they didn’t show much interest there.
 

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Sanchez really seemed to be coming around defensively the last couple months, but in this series he was worse than I've ever seen him- and that's saying something.
 

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jon abbey can go into this but I think they love his pitch calling?

also I just realized Boone's gone full circle from 2003 tonight.
His pitch blocking was great pretty much all year, I think he got really exhausted with all the sign switching and everything else in this series. He is a better defensive catcher than Romine overall, and of course a more dangerous hitter even at his worst. The team really loves him, the fan base does not and is dumb.

That being said, this will be the third straight offseason I'll hope that they upgrade the backup, I would offer D'Arnaud 3/24 and see if that is enough.
 

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I will not be surprised if the Yankees try to move on from him. The guy seems to be on the outs with not just the fans in NY but the team as well.
Yea, I mean...no. Sanchez has been a stud defensively all year, including passed balls. It's his bat that's the issue right now because he streaks in a way where he goes from one of the best hitters in the league to one of the worst and there's no telling when. He crushes the best pitching in the league then can't hit a pitching machine.

Sanchez seems to be a target for this board or maybe Sox fans, I dunno. Certainly, he's pissed off a ton of Yankees fans too with his disappearing act in the postseason. However, it's similar to when people used to say the Yankees should trade Arod because he wasn't clutch. Yea, I mean, it's true...but do you sell on a player who is top at their position for 162 games because they strike out too much in the playoffs? That's not rhetorical. Maybe. But I don't know.
 

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His pitch blocking was great pretty much all year, I think he got really exhausted with all the sign switching and everything else in this series. He is a better defensive catcher than Romine overall, and of course a more dangerous hitter even at his worst. The team really loves him, the fan base does not and is dumb.
That is fair. The Post, in particular, seems to have it in for him which seems strange.
 

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As good as the Judge cut-off play was - and it was maybe the most clutch play in professional sports history - that Brantley catch and double play was just sick. Not as clutch as Judge but clutch regardless. Especially with the dangerous Judge on base.
 

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Yea, I mean...no. Sanchez has been a stud defensively all year, including passed balls. It's his bat that's the issue right now because he streaks in a way where he goes from one of the best hitters in the league to one of the worst and there's no telling when. He crushes the best pitching in the league then can't hit a pitching machine.

Sanchez seems to be a target for this board or maybe Sox fans, I dunno. Certainly, he's pissed off a ton of Yankees fans too with his disappearing act in the postseason. However, it's similar to when people used to say the Yankees should trade Arod because he wasn't clutch. Yea, I mean, it's true...but do you sell on a player who is top at their position for 162 games because they strike out too much in the playoffs? That's not rhetorical. Maybe. But I don't know.
What defensive stat shows Sanchez as a stud?
 

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What defensive stat shows Sanchez as a stud?
I'm not gonna do this tonight, but we can certainly pick it back up during the offseason. Cannon arm, learned to block the plate which was his only weakness, and pitchers like throwing to him. His pitch framing took a step back, but that's about it.
 

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His pitch blocking was great pretty much all year, I think he got really exhausted with all the sign switching and everything else in this series. He is a better defensive catcher than Romine overall, and of course a more dangerous hitter even at his worst. The team really loves him, the fan base does not and is dumb.

That being said, this will be the third straight offseason I'll hope that they upgrade the backup, I would offer D'Arnaud 3/24 and see if that is enough.
But Romine can pitch in a pinch. Ask Brock Holt.
 

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I'm not gonna do this tonight, but we can certainly pick it back up during the offseason. Cannon arm, learned to block the plate which was his only weakness, and pitchers like throwing to him. His pitch framing took a step back, but that's about it.
His framing numbers sucked and he only threw out 23% of runners this year. Romine was better at framing and SB% (not that Romine was great, he wasn't).
 

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His framing numbers sucked and he only threw out 23% of runners this year. Romine was better at framing and SB% (not that Romine was great, he wasn't).
Stud was a strong word. The topic at hand was whether the team needed to move on from him, building on the premise that he’s an abysmal defender. They don’t, he isn’t.
 

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Sure keep Gary on the squad forever. It’s hard to fin someone I love seeing fail more than Gary

edit: I have a great deal of respect for some yanks fans, here and in real life. But watching Gary fail on the big stage will always be a joy
 

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MLB Championships won in the 21st Century, by team:

4 - Red Sox
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1 - Angels, Astros, Cubs, D'backs, Marlins, Phillies, Royals, White Sox, Yankees
 

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On the morning of/after YED, there is something almost indescribable about taking in the beauty of the sunrise, experiencing the fresh smell of the morning dew and contemplating the possibility of redemption and hope in a way that makes you forget all about Ronnie Bell’s inability to catch a simple pass in the end zone ...

Feels like ... victory.
 

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If the Astros finish the deal, the 2018 Sox were the only thing between the Astros and a 3-peat. As impressive as the 2018 Sox run was, to me that adds another notch on the belt.
 

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I was at the Papi ALDS series-ending walkoff against the Angels in 2004. We all stayed in the park for a while -- and that one wasn't as dramatic as this one.
Missed this last night.

Was at that game as well. It’s a good reference point, for a couple of reasons.
 

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As good as the Judge cut-off play was - and it was maybe the most clutch play in professional sports history - that Brantley catch and double play was just sick. Not as clutch as Judge but clutch regardless. Especially with the dangerous Judge on base.
Most clutch play in sports history? Sounds like a new thread. Also Malcolm Butler would like a word.
 

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What's surprisingly bad is his having passed balls and contributing to wild pitches in the playoffs. Effort stops most of 'em.
Well, sure. The timing was terrible, no arguments from me. But Sox fans are carrying their impression of Sanchez's defense from last year into what they saw from him in one game. The equivalent would be if Yankees fans saw Devers make 2 errors in a game during the ALCS and started making stupid statements like "will the Sox move on from him?" This forum is better than that.

During the ALCS threads, I made a comment along the lines of needing to create a thread to discuss Gary Sanchez. Why? Because of inconsistency, injuries, and 3 years in not knowing whether he's a hall of fame offensive catcher or whether he's three 500ops months from being a backup catcher.

Edit: I'll add that being defensive about Gary Sanchez is nothing new but he's going to be the catcher through 2023 and there are other places Cashman needs to focus on, including his backup (Romine is a FA). The post mortem on this ALCS is going to surface a lot of negativity about flaws and reasons they lost but the reason they lost is because Houston is a godamn powerhouse. They barely outhit us, they mostly outpitched us, I think they probably outmanaged us, and they definitely outdefended us. Houston in 6 was a pretty safe bet going into this one.
 
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I think it goes either way. You have your closer on the mound and you don't expect your closer to pitch around anyone. The call to pitch to Altuve is one thing but the truth was that he just didn't have his stuff. He was back to hitting 102/103 in September. I think we saw 100 a couple times this series but he just didn't have it after the 2nd out. Just gotta shrug I guess.
They went through the AB on mlbn, and contended that Chapman "had fallen in love with his slider and had had good results with it," and then when he tried to go back to the FB, the velocity was there, but he'd lost command, and couldn't throw a strike. Then he went back to the slider, and Altuve was waiting for the second one after he missed the first one.
EDIT: in a later post, I see that you covered that. That's the problem with replying as you go.
 
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