The '96 World Series, kinda, but even then the Yanks' wins weren't as dominant as the Astros' last three have been.Is there a precedent for this type of WS collapse?
Right. Similar without the complete asskicking.The '96 World Series, kinda, but even then the Yanks' wins weren't as dominant as the Astros' last three have been.
Does the American League World Series in 2004 count?Is there a precedent for this type of WS collapse?
I live in DC, and was at tonight's game. (I always decline to wave my cap for that song - which they play every game in the 4th or 5th inning - just because the song is so god-awful. Anyway, I went to Boston this summer for the time since the Manny-K-Rod game in '07, to introduce my 6 year old daughter to Fenway. And the of course I love the park visually, but the most obvious difference after attending 10+ games a season at Nats Park was the silence of the speakers. No imploring us to cheer, as if we don't know when to do so. No between pitches music. Just a peaceful night at the ballpark with moments of loud excitement. It became that much more intrusive and painful to my ears returning to Nats Park.This is delicious, thanks. But I do have less respect for the Nats with the "Wave Your Caps" crap. Are the Sox among few teams nowadays who don't instruct their fans on how to behave?
I was going to just snicker, but I see you typed WS, not LCS, so, not this extreme as I can recall, of course the '96 MFY did the same in the W-L column, but Atlanta didn't just bend over and lube up like this.Is there a precedent for this type of WS collapse?
It will (rightfully so) be a massive regret of his for the rest of his life.I know max physically couldn’t throw a pitch but that’s gonna become a huge narrative if there is no game seven. Or if there is one and he can’t start it
It’s gotta depend on the story, right? If it’s a condition or beyond his control then it’s easier to stomach. If he just kept using a shitty pillow or wasn’t stretching properly then it’s pretty absurd.It will (rightfully so) be a massive regret of his for the rest of his life.
Didn’t they have a deeper rotation?I was going to just snicker, but I see you typed WS, not LCS, so, not this extreme as I can recall, of course the '96 MFY did the same in the W-L column, but Atlanta didn't just bend over and lube up like this.
I’m confused by your metaphor. Isn’t losing the WS a bad thing?I was going to just snicker, but I see you typed WS, not LCS, so, not this extreme as I can recall, of course the '96 MFY did the same in the W-L column, but Atlanta didn't just bend over and lube up like this.
On mlbn tonight, which I think is repeated all day long, Pedro Martinez seems to be claiming that Cole deserves the calls because he is pitching his own consistent zone! It seems to be the Great Men Deserve What They Get theory and is infuriating. I wish someone else who sees this can tell me if my tiredness is making me misunderstand what he's saying.Tonight's strike zone is Exhibit A for robots-umps for ball/strikes. It's making a farce of the game.
I’ll admit to not seeing this segment before I give my opinion, but I feel like I’ve heard pitchers, especially smart ones like Pedro, make the point before: you pitch to the zone the ump is calling. If Cole recognizes that the ump is calling that pitch an inch or two up or an inch or two outside and you have the command to attack that zone the smart pitcher is going to do that.On mlbn tonight, which I think is repeated all day long, Pedro Martinez seems to be claiming that Cole deserves the calls because he is pitching his own consistent zone! It seems to be the Great Men Deserve What They Get theory and is infuriating. I wish someone else who sees this can tell me if my tiredness is making me misunderstand what he's saying.
Absolutely, but when the ump doesn't call the same zone for both teams, it's about as frustrating as it gets.I’ll admit to not seeing this segment before I give my opinion, but I feel like I’ve heard pitchers, especially smart ones like Pedro, make the point before: you pitch to the zone the ump is calling. If Cole recognizes that the ump is calling that pitch an inch or two up or an inch or two outside and you have the command to attack that zone the smart pitcher is going to do that.
This is almost certainly the truth, but narratively it's hard not to look at the stark difference between games 1 and 2 and 3 through 5 and think the Nats turned into pumpkins. They were extreme underdogs from the get-go, but my suspicion is that won't be the story people remember, particularly given their pre-existing reputation.They Nats not folding; the Astros are probably better and working their will. They have stone cold killers up and down that lineup. They have a force of nature and unbelievable leadership in Altuve. Remember, the Yankees had shut down Bregman and a couple other hitters, and the Astros still strangled the life out of the Yankees. When these guys turned it around, it figures to be a major problem. Especially when you have zero middle relief.
People here are shellshocked this morning. They did not give the Astros the proper respect. Not out of malevolence, out of ignorance is all.
This is my take as well. If it had been a split in HOU then losing 2 of 3 at home things would feel different. But of course that's not what happened.If you'd told me at the beginning that this is the position the Nats would find themselves in, down 3-2 going back to Houston with Strass-Verlander pending and Corbin, or maybe even Scherzer, posied for Game 7 against Greinke, I'd have taken it. I'd have regarded them as heavy underdogs, but I'd have taken it.
Of course, because they had a 2-0 lead, and they've been absolutely thrashed three straight in their own yard, it's really, really hard to feel good about it. Still, they absolutely have a chance. I also think they probably benefit more from the DH. Because their bullpen is so bad, they really haven't had the ability to pinch hit early--this helps that.
I give them maybe 25% to win it all.
25% would be the mathematical odds if teams were evenly matched and there was no last-at-bat or home field advantages and no intangibles. This feels like around 15%.I give them maybe 25% to win it all.
Looks like they were trying to bring attention to October as Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Banned for lifeDid anyone see video of the two females sitting to the right of home plate a few rows up flashing Cole? I just caught this today and was curious if they were removed and can't find an answer.
Never seen that midgame before and was shocked it happened.
Looks more like they were trying to bring attention to their patreon site. The code of conduct is pretty clear, adios.Looks like they were trying to bring attention to October as Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Banned for life
View: https://twitter.com/reuben81691/status/1188702650600058880
Yeah, what an idiotic idea that you could do that and not get in trouble. Public nudity isn't allowed, especially in a MLB park.Looks more like they were trying to bring attention to their patreon site. The code of conduct is pretty clear, adios.
Ridiculous, he couldn't even turn his head when speaking to the media yesterday.It will (rightfully so) be a massive regret of his for the rest of his life.
Looks like they were banned from all MLB ballparks not just Natstown. For a "scheme to induce others to do the same to promote their business"Looks like they were trying to bring attention to October as Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Banned for life
View: https://twitter.com/reuben81691/status/1188702650600058880
Public toplessness, even for females, is allowed in several very public places, including NYC. (One of) the probems here was they were doing it in a privately-owned place that was broadcasted to millions of people and that MLB/Nats didn;t profit off it.Yeah, what an idiotic idea that you could do that and not get in trouble. Public nudity isn't allowed, especially in a MLB park.
You don't understand: the World Series is supposed to cure all ills and anyone who can't answer the bell had better be dead or he is just soft. Scherer just didn't want it enough because he hates the game and the fans.Ridiculous, he couldn't even turn his head when speaking to the media yesterday.
I’ll admit to not seeing this segment before I give my opinion, but I feel like I’ve heard pitchers, especially smart ones like Pedro, make the point before: you pitch to the zone the ump is calling. If Cole recognizes that the ump is calling that pitch an inch or two up or an inch or two outside and you have the command to attack that zone the smart pitcher is going to do that.
It seemed to me that Cole was getting these calls (balls just off the plate being called strikes) all night, while Ross was not, so maybe there is some sort of pitcher caste system or preference/bias for "consistency." The pitch to Correa before the HR may or may not have been in the strike zone, but it was a call that Cole was getting all night. And above all, the strike zone has to be consistent for both teams. If it is't, it jeopardizes the integrity of the game.Absolutely, but when the ump doesn't call the same zone for both teams, it's about as frustrating as it gets.
If professional baseball players get uptight playing in front of their home crowd, I don’t know what to say. Oh, on Monday night football pregame, they have a bit called “C’mon, Man!”Maybe the Nationals were tight playing in front of their home crowd, they sure were pretty loose in games one and two, or maybe the Astros buckled down after being down 0-2 and took their game to another level and now they will be the ones who are tight in front of their home crowd.
I have no dog in this fight, so I am rooting for a game seven for all the marbles.
They were on a roll in Houston, then they scored three runs in three games at home.If professional baseball players get uptight playing in front of their home crowd, I don’t know what to say. Oh, on Monday night football pregame, they have a bit called “C’mon, Man!”