2021-2022 NBA Game Thread!

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Like where the Rockets are headed Green, Wood, Tate is a dawg

but Kevin Porter Jr with 7 TOs and an asinine Tech in the 4th Quarter.
 

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Malik Monk is fitting in nicely with these Lakers. Each game he is growing more and more comfortable playing with 2-3 legends on the floor which is always a challenge for young players. Knowing when to be assertive and when to defer can really mess with their head. It looks like it’s going to work for him though.
 

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what game should I watch right now. Watching utah/Denver but I’m bored. Wanted to watch Joker and he is out

Edit: just realized everything is over
 
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What do people think of Jaden McDaniel? He seems to be a great fit on the Wolves. He doesn't look to score but racks up blocks, steals, and boards. And fouls. He just turned 21 years old and this is his 2nd season. Last year, he shot the 3 at a 36.4% clip on 198 3s.

I like Naz Reid too. If Minnesota can stay healthy, they are actually a really good team and well put together.
 

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Miami has already beaten Milwaukee and BKN. Heat is going to be a tough out if it stays healthy.
 

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OKC trying like hell to give this game away, but the Lakers are even more inept in this final minute.
 

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OKC trying like hell to give this game away, but the Lakers are even more inept in this final minute.
Losing to OKC, even minus LeBron is a bad look.

Josh Giddey is off to a strong start.
 

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Bane had another good night too. I'm not convinced the C's pick him anyway, but he'd look really good on the C's.

It's kind of depressing we are talking about AN and RL instead of Bane or two guys we just missed out on in Herro and Haliburton. Having just one of those guys would change things so much.

Ja had a pretty ugly performance tonight with 9 TOs.

The Cavs won in Clipperland playing bigs 123 minutes and point guards 94. Stevens received 21 minutes, the only non G/Big to play more than 4m. That was Osman. 4 other players played 1 minute.

I love it. There rotation is 4 bigs, 3 point guards and a wing. After starting 0-2 and giving up 132 and 123, they have given up 95, 87 and 79.

It helps that their 4 bigs are hardly traditional bigs, as has been discussed. This team is fun.

Miles Bridges had 31 points on 11/21, 5/10, 4/5 shooting with 6 rebounds and a block. Looking more and more real every game.

Bamba continues to look like someone abducted the real Bamba and replaced him with an alien clone, going 5/9, 2/4, 2/2 with 10 boards, 3 assists, 1 steal and 1 block. Wagner is doing better than I thought he'd be doing to.

If Isaac comes back fully healthy, they have a really young core that could develop into something if things go right. Isaac, Bamba, Wagner, Suggs, WCJ, RJ Hampton, Anthony. So much youth.

The start of the season is always fun!
 

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Bane had another good night too. I'm not convinced the C's pick him anyway, but he'd look really good on the C's.

It's kind of depressing we are talking about AN and RL instead of Bane or two guys we just missed out on in Herro and Haliburton. Having just one of those guys would change things so much.

Ja had a pretty ugly performance tonight with 9 TOs.

The Cavs won in Clipperland playing bigs 123 minutes and point guards 94. Stevens received 21 minutes, the only non G/Big to play more than 4m. That was Osman. 4 other players played 1 minute.

I love it. There rotation is 4 bigs, 3 point guards and a wing. After starting 0-2 and giving up 132 and 123, they have given up 95, 87 and 79.

It helps that their 4 bigs are hardly traditional bigs, as has been discussed. This team is fun.

Miles Bridges had 31 points on 11/21, 5/10, 4/5 shooting with 6 rebounds and a block. Looking more and more real every game.

Bamba continues to look like someone abducted the real Bamba and replaced him with an alien clone, going 5/9, 2/4, 2/2 with 10 boards, 3 assists, 1 steal and 1 block. Wagner is doing better than I thought he'd be doing to.

If Isaac comes back fully healthy, they have a really young core that could develop into something if things go right. Isaac, Bamba, Wagner, Suggs, WCJ, RJ Hampton, Anthony. So much youth.

The start of the season is always fun!
Contract year Bamba might be a real thing.
 

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Bane had another good night too. I'm not convinced the C's pick him anyway, but he'd look really good on the C's.

It's kind of depressing we are talking about AN and RL instead of Bane or two guys we just missed out on in Herro and Haliburton. Having just one of those guys would change things so much.

Ja had a pretty ugly performance tonight with 9 TOs.

The Cavs won in Clipperland playing bigs 123 minutes and point guards 94. Stevens received 21 minutes, the only non G/Big to play more than 4m. That was Osman. 4 other players played 1 minute.

I love it. There rotation is 4 bigs, 3 point guards and a wing. After starting 0-2 and giving up 132 and 123, they have given up 95, 87 and 79.

It helps that their 4 bigs are hardly traditional bigs, as has been discussed. This team is fun.

Miles Bridges had 31 points on 11/21, 5/10, 4/5 shooting with 6 rebounds and a block. Looking more and more real every game.

Bamba continues to look like someone abducted the real Bamba and replaced him with an alien clone, going 5/9, 2/4, 2/2 with 10 boards, 3 assists, 1 steal and 1 block. Wagner is doing better than I thought he'd be doing to.

If Isaac comes back fully healthy, they have a really young core that could develop into something if things go right. Isaac, Bamba, Wagner, Suggs, WCJ, RJ Hampton, Anthony. So much youth.

The start of the season is always fun!
Miles Bridges is impressive - he's always had skills but it feels like he is leveling up in real time. It will be interesting to see how his year progresses and how Charlotte manages touches when everyone is healthy.
 

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Maybe the Wizards are better than we thought they were. Nice win over ATL on the second night of a back-to-back. Montrezl was a beast again.
 

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Maybe the Wizards are better than we thought they were. Nice win over ATL on the second night of a back-to-back. Montrezl was a beast again.
No Dinwiddie too. 'Zards held ATL to 6-21 from 3P and got 94 points from KCP, Kuzma, Beal, and Harrell.

Who knew Kuzma could play the 4?
 
Maybe the Wizards are better than we thought they were. Nice win over ATL on the second night of a back-to-back. Montrezl was a beast again.
Atlanta was also on the second night of a back-to-back, FWIW. Their opening night win over Dallas notwithstanding, I haven't been impressed with the Hawks' start to the season; maybe still trying to figure out their rotations and use all of their incredible depth?
 

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The top of the East goes Knicks, Hornets, Bulls, Wizards and Bulls, just like we all expected.
 

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Washington is deep. Not sure what the ceiling is but they could potentially have a very good regular season record.
Are they really? I mean they have a superstar in Beal and a really good player in Dinwiddie but after that it's Harrell / Pope / Kuzma / Holiday / Bertans / Neto / young players. Sure Bertans can shoot but aren't the rest of these guys more or less considered fungible players?

The one it looks like they do is play hard every game. I guess in that sense they are kind of like last year's NYK (and maybe this year's NYK too).
 

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Are they really? I mean they have a superstar in Beal and a really good player in Dinwiddie but after that it's Harrell / Pope / Kuzma / Holiday / Bertans / Neto / young players. Sure Bertans can shoot but aren't the rest of these guys more or less considered fungible players?

The one it looks like they do is play hard every game. I guess in that sense they are kind of like last year's NYK (and maybe this year's NYK too).
They have a solid core, a couple star players and veteran depth. This is a team that won 18 of their last 25 a year ago so it wasn’t like they were bouncing back off a 20-win season…….they were pretty good last year too, swapped Dinwiddie for RWB and added some attitude to their frontcourt with Harrell.
 

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They get Thomas Bryant back at some point too.
Yeah, they will get Bryant and Hachimura back which are two more players that offer a reasonable baseline with the chance for further improvement. I wasn't high on Washington going into the season because I thought their late-season surge was mostly just because Westbrook is an excellent floor-raiser for a middling team, but they have a great #1 scorer, a decent sidekick and some solid rotation players, including some veterans that have played in big games like KCP.

My big question for Washington is what they can get out of their recent draft picks. Avdija has looked completely overmatched by the NBA and Kispert can't get off the bench, which is a bad sign when you draft a 22 year old.
 

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Yeah, they will get Bryant and Hachimura back which are two more players that offer a reasonable baseline with the chance for further improvement. I wasn't high on Washington going into the season because I thought their late-season surge was mostly just because Westbrook is an excellent floor-raiser for a middling team, but they have a great #1 scorer, a decent sidekick and some solid rotation players, including some veterans that have played in big games like KCP.

My big question for Washington is what they can get out of their recent draft picks. Avdija has looked completely overmatched by the NBA and Kispert can't get off the bench, which is a bad sign when you draft a 22 year old.
I had said last summer that Kispert would be playing in Turkey by 2026. I will hedge that a bit…..he could make it to Spain. One-dimensional shooters have a difficult journey to make it in this league the way today’s game is played today.
 

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I had said last summer that Kispert would be playing in Turkey by 2026. I will hedge that a bit…..he could make it to Spain. One-dimensional shooters have a difficult journey to make it in this league the way today’s game is played today.
I don't really watch a lot of CBB outside of some tape on freshmen and the NCAA Tournament. Kispert was a consensus AA but isn't it possible he benefited a lot from playing on a loaded team that got him a ton of great looks against oftentimes meh competition? He wasn't exactly Buddy Hield, JJ Redick, Doug McDermott etc. who were dominant players. It's still early and it's possible he turns into Duncan Robinson, but its a rough start.
 

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I don't really watch a lot of CBB outside of some tape on freshmen and the NCAA Tournament. Kispert was a consensus AA but isn't it possible he benefited a lot from playing on a loaded team that got him a ton of great looks against oftentimes meh competition? He wasn't exactly Buddy Hield, JJ Redick, Doug McDermott etc. who were dominant players. It's still early and it's possible he turns into Duncan Robinson, but its a rough start.
Very good college player. He could do a little more than shoot at Gonzaga due to his size giving him some advantages. I’m confident that those skills do not translate at all though against NBA size, length and athleticism.
 
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Very good college player. He could do a little more than shoot at Gonzaga due to his size giving him some advantages. Those skills do not translate at all though against NBA size, length and athleticism.
Agreed---I was really puzzled at why people always had him as a lottery/top 10 level pick. To me, his best-case scenario is a one-dimensional gunner who could maybe start on a strong team (duncan robinson-style) or be a rotation wing. And the more likely scenario is Spain. Guys like that shouldn't be lottery picks.
 

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Are they really? I mean they have a superstar in Beal and a really good player in Dinwiddie but after that it's Harrell / Pope / Kuzma / Holiday / Bertans / Neto / young players. Sure Bertans can shoot but aren't the rest of these guys more or less considered fungible players?

The one it looks like they do is play hard every game. I guess in that sense they are kind of like last year's NYK (and maybe this year's NYK too).
They were decent last year. Russ is out but they brought in five rotation players in that trade, with Spencer, Pope, Kuz, Harrell and Holiday. You say fungible but having competent NBA players can easily separate you from the dregs of the league.
 

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I had said last summer that Kispert would be playing in Turkey by 2026. I will hedge that a bit…..he could make it to Spain. One-dimensional shooters have a difficult journey to make it in this league the way today’s game is played today.
You may well be right about Kispert, but what odds would you have given Joe Harris? At the end of his rookie season, the Cavs traded him (for a second-round pick) to Orlando, which then cut him.
 

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Harris got traded to save $3m in luxury tax penalties (he was only making $850k). It was actually halfway through his 2nd season, but he was already out for the year after 5 games with a foot injury that apparently required the removal of a bone.

The Magic got cash & a top 55 protected '17 2nd & the Cavs got a top 55 protected '20 2nd (neither pick conveyed), & the Magic waived Harris immediately.

Not sure there is anything in particular about those circumstances that would be compelling as they relate to Kispert.
 

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You may well be right about Kispert, but what odds would you have given Joe Harris? At the end of his rookie season, the Cavs traded him (for a second-round pick) to Orlando, which then cut him.
Yeah not that great. Harris was also a 2nd round pick and not a late lottery guy.
 

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Harris got traded to save $3m in luxury tax penalties (he was only making $850k). It was actually halfway through his 2nd season, but he was already out for the year after 5 games with a foot injury that apparently required the removal of a bone.

The Magic got cash & a top 55 protected '17 2nd & the Cavs got a top 55 protected '20 2nd (neither pick conveyed), & the Magic waived Harris immediately.

Not sure there is anything in particular about those circumstances that would be compelling as they relate to Kispert.
Their games are similar. That's the connection. There were more than a few comparisons to Harris in evaluations of Kispert leading up to the draft.
 
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Their games are similar. That's the connection. There were more than a few comparisons to Harris in evaluations of Kispert leading up to the draft.
Meh. I disagree with the comp, plus Harris hit his top 3% outcome. But obviously 4 games into his NBA career is too early to change one's opinion much. I also thought he was overdrafted, though.
 

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Meh. I disagree with the comp, plus Harris hit his top 3% outcome. But obviously 4 games into his NBA career is too early to change one's opinion much. I also thought he was overdrafted, though.
I agree that Kispert was overdrafted. I don't agree that he's destined to be playing in Europe sooner rather than later.
 

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I agree that Kispert was overdrafted. I don't agree that he's destined to be playing in Europe sooner rather than later.
How about an Adam Morrison or Nik Stauskas comp? :)
 

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Since he's admittedly overdrafted at 15, & the '26 eurobasket thing is questionable to you, let's look at the '16 draft from pick 16 on...

#16 Yabusele - Playing in Spain
#17 Baldwin - Playing in Spain
#18 Ellenson - Playing in Spain

Lol I was not expecting that.
 

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Not quite as funny after that...

#22 Richardson - Playing in Italy
#23 Zizic - Playing in Israel
#25 Johnson - Playing in Japan
 

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Earlier in the draft...

#4 Bender - Israel
#10 Maker - Israel
#13 Papagiannis - Greece
 

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2015 NBA Draft...

#3 Okafor - Unemployed
#5 Hezonja - Russia
#7 Mudiay - Lithuania
#8 Johnson - Unemployed
#17 Vaughn - Ukraine
#18 Dekker - Back from Turkey
#19 Grant - Italy
#21 Anderson - G League
#23 Hollis-Jefferson - Turkey
#25 Martin - Australia
#26 Milutinov - Russia
#28 Hunter - Australia
#29 McCullough - Puerto Rico
 

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2014...

#5 Exum - Unemployed
#8 Stauskas - G League (back from Spain)
#9 Vonleh - China
#15 Payne - Turkey
#17 Young - Israel
#18 Ennis - Turkey
#20 Caboclo - Brazil
#21 McGary - Gave up basketball for bowling in 2017?
#22 Adams - Argentina
#24 Napier - Russia
#26 Hairston - Retired in 2018
#28 Wilcox - Retired from G League?
#29 Huestis - G League

I don't really have a point posting these, just kind of interesting catching up on where people have gone.

It shows a pretty high % of 1st rounders not really in the league while still in their prime.