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HomeRunBaker

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Yeah, I love the analytics but they seem not even wrong as a tool to evaluate young players. I completely ignore them for rookies. Eye test for young guys >>> advanced stats.
I would adjust this to read…..eye test for raw young high upside guys who are admittedly awful players at this stage of their career >>> advanced stats. I feel they could be somewhat relevant for a young physically mature player who is already is close to his ceiling if not already there. (Olynyk, Pritchard, etc)
 

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It was against the Wizards, but LeBron went for 50 again tonight, along with 7 rebounds and 6 assists, on just 25 shots. It's going to mostly get lost in the Lakers' disaster of a season (hopefully), but coming into tonight LeBron was averaging 29.3 points with a TS% of .612. At the same age, Jordan was in year 3 of his 2nd retirement and Kobe was stumbling through his final year, averaging just 17.6 points with a TS% of .469. LeBron is something else.
 

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It was against the Wizards, but LeBron went for 50 again tonight, along with 7 rebounds and 6 assists, on just 25 shots. It's going to mostly get lost in the Lakers' disaster of a season (hopefully), but coming into tonight LeBron was averaging 29.3 points with a TS% of .612. At the same age, Jordan was in year 3 of his 2nd retirement and Kobe was stumbling through his final year, averaging just 17.6 points with a TS% of .469. LeBron is something else.
How awful is this supporting cast that LeBron needs to be Superman for the Lakers to beat the Wizards?
 

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It was against the Wizards, but LeBron went for 50 again tonight, along with 7 rebounds and 6 assists, on just 25 shots. It's going to mostly get lost in the Lakers' disaster of a season (hopefully), but coming into tonight LeBron was averaging 29.3 points with a TS% of .612. At the same age, Jordan was in year 3 of his 2nd retirement and Kobe was stumbling through his final year, averaging just 17.6 points with a TS% of .469. LeBron is something else.
The 'Zards started KCP, Kuzma, Porzingas, Kispert, and Neto. Hard to put together a worse defens7vevstarting with a basically healthy team (Beal wouldn't help much either).
 

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I mean, nobody on the Lakers plays any defense so no matter who they are playing, LeBron is going to need to score a lot of points in any game for the Lakers to have a chance because they are giving up 120 points to a team starting Kispert and Neto.
 

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The 'Zards started KCP, Kuzma, Porzingas, Kispert, and Neto. Hard to put together a worse defens7vevstarting with a basically healthy team (Beal wouldn't help much either).
That's not even close to the worst defensive starters they've played this year, Porzingis has played solid D and Beal is one of their worst defenders.

Earlier in the season they were running out Kuzma, Beal, KCP, Kispert and one of Gafford/T. Bryant... now that is some garbage
 

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Now that Tatum is a ripe old 24 and unquestioned Top 10 NBA player, he can pass the torch to the league's next great young forward.

View: https://twitter.com/jaytatum0/status/1502834233852805125
Every time I watch Kuminga he looks a little better/more comfortable, he's going to be a beast when he fills out. Moody also improving...Poole is really turning it on...Some nice young talent to weave in with the vets. Kerr has done a great job developing these youngsters.

What's the latest intel on Wiseman?

What do the Warriors do with GP2 this summer? He's a bench piece I'd like to see on the C's
 

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That's not even close to the worst defensive starters they've played this year, Porzingis has played solid D and Beal is one of their worst defenders.

Earlier in the season they were running out Kuzma, Beal, KCP, Kispert and one of Gafford/T. Bryant... now that is some garbage
Yeah while the little I've seen of Porzingas hasn't shown much defense other than blocking shots, you're probably right. Wiz played Gafford and rested Porzingas and gave up 127 to PDX's G-League team, including 44 to Josh Hart. Same PDX players who got to 85 against UT and 85 against MIN.

I wonder if WAS is trying to get Beal to want to sign somewhere else. :)
 

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Every time I watch Kuminga he looks a little better/more comfortable, he's going to be a beast when he fills out. Moody also improving...Poole is really turning it on...Some nice young talent to weave in with the vets. Kerr has done a great job developing these youngsters.

What's the latest intel on Wiseman?

What do the Warriors do with GP2 this summer? He's a bench piece I'd like to see on the C's
I’m not a huge Moody guy (except when I’m pissed off but I digress) but Kuminga looks so good to me and he hasn’t even scratched the surface of what he’s capable of doing on the floor. His physicals are off the charts and his ball skills are already emerging. Huge move on the Warriors part not to move him to squeeze another title out of Curry as he’s going to be their cornerstone for 10-15 years barring injury. The last thing that ownership group would have wanted was a low lottery team with that brand new arena there to fill.
 

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Every time I watch Kuminga he looks a little better/more comfortable, he's going to be a beast when he fills out. Moody also improving...Poole is really turning it on...Some nice young talent to weave in with the vets. Kerr has done a great job developing these youngsters.

What's the latest intel on Wiseman?

What do the Warriors do with GP2 this summer? He's a bench piece I'd like to see on the C's
Not much intel to go on on J-Wise/J-Dub (he says he’s fine with either nickname, just don’t call him “Big Jim,” as annoying Warriors announcer Bob Fitzgerald tried to last season). He’s played one game in Santa Cruz and looked good: 18 points on 7-13 fg with 6 boards in 20 minutes. Looked huge — same great frame with 15-20 lbs. of added muscle — and athletic. FT stroke looked nice, as one would hope, given that’s one likely of the few skills he’s been able to practice consistently over the last year.

Still probably a ways away in terms of the hoops chops (timing, feel, screening, defensive positioning, etc.) required to contribute in the heat of playoff battle … but who knows. Kuminga and Moody both looked like raw 19 year-old rookies a couple of months ago, and are now contributing huge minutes in big late-season wins against the defending champs.

Hard to imagine Wiseman contributing more than 5-10 minute cameos as soon as this year, though. I’d guess next season is his coming out party.
 
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Totally random, but it's going to be interesting what happens with Jalen Smith this offseason.

12.8 points, 8.0 rebounds, 1.0 block in 25.9 mpg on .543/.391/.808 shooting in 12 games with Indiana. 18/46 from 3.

Turns 22 in 3 days, 10th overall pick just last year.

Will also be fascinating if Detroit can get anything out of Bagley.
 

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Totally random, but it's going to be interesting what happens with Jalen Smith this offseason.

12.8 points, 8.0 rebounds, 1.0 block in 25.9 mpg on .543/.391/.808 shooting in 12 games with Indiana. 18/46 from 3.

Turns 22 in 3 days, 10th overall pick just last year.

Will also be fascinating if Detroit can get anything out of Bagley.
The Pacers won’t be able to re-sign Smith as they can only begin the offer with the size of his original option. Smith got a good deal in the Suns moving him so he could get some minutes to put up numbers as he enters UFA. If I had to guess I’d say he ends up in Charlotte, who has cap space and could use bigs, especially young ones who fit into their growth curve. 4/$50m? $60m?
 

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The Lakers are not the first team to do this; but they really seemed to have underestimated how difficult it can be to find good NBA-level defenders that also have complimentary skills on offense. Just looking at their roster and outside of Davis, there is just nobody there who can really defend consistently well; it's just a collection of turnstiles. Teams always seem to think they can pluck some 3&D guys out of thin air, but time and time again, we see how that is much more difficult to find in practice.
 

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A doc rivers team blowing a huge lead, where have i seen this before?
In the current NBA, almost every night, all over the league. Doc has to figure out his rotations because the bench killed them tonight. Bench and a zone defense that ignored Bones Hyland while he torched them from deep in the fourth quarter. Only Embiid and Thybulle played any defense tonight.
 

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Philly will be very interesting in the playoffs. They got a lot of whistles early in the game tonight and very few late, and their offense really bogged down.