2022-23 NBA Game Thread

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Westy + PatBev + Nunn: 1-25 from the field, lol.

Kind of remarkable the Lakers kept it as close as they did.
 

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Laker starting backcourt 1-18 as they lose another game to the Clippers, their eighth in a row, and 33rd of the last 40. The Lakers are 19-85 from three to start the season. AD tweaked his back, and was moving gingerly in the second half.
 

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Imagine this current Pelicans roster with Wembanyama added to it?
Lebron+Ad are too good to be one of the worst teams in the league, unless they both miss a lot of time this year they'll be nowhere near the worst record, especially this year when a bunch of teams are going to tank. The Lakers can't tank.
 

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He’s listed on nba.com as averaging 2.0 potential assists per game, which is not last on the team, but it’s pretty bad considering the amount of time played.
For some scale, Grant Williams averaged 2.0 potential assists per game last year, Daniel Theis averaged 1.8. Davis averaged 6.0 last year, so I expect it will stabilize.
 

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For some scale, Grant Williams averaged 2.0 potential assists per game last year, Daniel Theis averaged 1.8. Davis averaged 6.0 last year, so I expect it will stabilize.
Sure. I was responding to the notion that AD was trying (re passing), and it's not clear to me that he was. I'm not interested enough to rewatch either game, though, to look more carefully at his passing. So it's a small-sample-size hot-take kind of thing.

It's interesting that my comment about no assists from AD got some pushback/excuses/justification, but no one responded to the "Westy + PatBev + Nunn: 1-25" comment with Beverley's shooting statistics from last year. Or maybe it's not interesting, maybe people just like AD more, which I could understand. I personally don't object to mocking any of the Lakers, given the opportunity.
 

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Sure. I was responding to the notion that AD was trying (re passing), and it's not clear to me that he was. I'm not interested enough to rewatch either game, though, to look more carefully at his passing. So it's a small-sample-size hot-take kind of thing.

It's interesting that my comment about no assists from AD got some pushback/excuses/justification, but no one responded to the "Westy + PatBev + Nunn: 1-25" comment with Beverley's shooting statistics from last year. Or maybe it's not interesting, maybe people just like AD more, which I could understand. I personally don't object to mocking any of the Lakers, given the opportunity.
I was the first person to post that trios shooting numbers last night and others posted similar so not sure what you mean about their shooting not being discussed. It’s not about liking Anthony Davis as I personally feel he’s overrated but the question you should ask is why in the world would Davis be passing to guys shooting 1-25? That doesn’t seem optimal.
 

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Jazz in real danger of starting 2-0. Did nobody tell them they’re supposed to lose?
As I wrote in the gambling thread….the players aren’t the ones tanking. The front office can only control player personnel…..these guys are fighting for jobs and contract so they aren’t tanking as people like to believe.
 

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As I wrote in the gambling thread….the players aren’t the ones tanking. The front office can only control player personnel…..these guys are fighting for jobs and contract so they aren’t tanking as people like to believe.
But the players aren't good
 

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The Jazz are not good but their rotation is mostly made up of veteran players that would be in the rotation of good NBA teams. They will probably have a semi-decent offense (defense is another story).
 

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Jokic gets blocked by Draymond on one end, gets elbowed in the face by Curry on the other end (no call). Comes back down, cashes a tough jumper over Draymond and draws Draymond's fifth foul. King.
 

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Nuggets lead Warriors by three with 13 seconds left. Off the inbound, Hyland dumbly turns it over in his own corner, Poole scores a quick lay up. Jokic picks the ball up, and immediately throws a 60 foot inbound pass to Bruce Brown, who dunks it to put Denver back up three. Nobody else in basketball makes that play.
 

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That pass was sick. Someone is getting dragged during film for the Dubs. Meanwhile, Bruce Brown is indeed looking like quite the fit for Denver. Especially when nobody covers him!
 

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The Jazz are not good but their rotation is mostly made up of veteran players that would be in the rotation of good NBA teams. They will probably have a semi-decent offense (defense is another story).
KO started the year off going 7-9 from 3P. Nice hot streak for him.
 

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But the players aren't good
That isn’t the players tanking though. These type of players are actually more likely to overachieve as they are fighting for their careers/contract. It’s the polar opposite of tanking in many cases.
 

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That isn’t the players tanking though. These type of players are actually more likely to overachieve as they are fighting for their careers/contract. It’s the polar opposite of tanking in many cases.
Also Will Hardy needs to prove he's a real head coach, and won't be throwing games by any means.

This happened to OKC with the Horford team, and the solution is always to trade guys or just mutually agree to shut them down while "working on finding the right situation for them."
 

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Who would he throw it to?
And somebody has to actually make the shot for him to get an assist.

Lebron+Ad are too good to be one of the worst teams in the league, unless they both miss a lot of time this year they'll be nowhere near the worst record, especially this year when a bunch of teams are going to tank. The Lakers can't tank.
this is true, although e will see if AD makes it through the Season. LeBron barring a serious injury will compete all year.

that said even if 5-7 tanking teams outrace them to the bottom, they could easily end up in the 6-9 range, which means the Pelicans are likely looking at a 4.5-9% chance.
 

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Lebron+Ad are too good to be one of the worst teams in the league, unless they both miss a lot of time this year they'll be nowhere near the worst record, especially this year when a bunch of teams are going to tank. The Lakers can't tank.
Yes, but they can quit. If LeBron or AD gets hurt (very possible), the other will pack it in, the Lakers won't trade picks in a lost season, and things will get UGLY.

Outside of those two, it's a horrifically bad roster. Utah, Houston, OKC are all better if AD or LeBron is hurt.
 

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Just saw the replay of Draymond rolling into Jokic’s leg. Very dangerous. I wonder if Kerr is going to talk to Green about not going to the floor because it crosses a line, or whether he will let Poole handle that conversation.

Edit: Although it was nice of Draymond to check on the MVP to see if he’d successfully injured him.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Utr3bsymJm8
 

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You can’t seriously watch that reply and feel this was intentional right? That was a bad angle but he got knocked to the ground and Jokic’s leg happened to be there.
It's a cumulative thing with Draymond for me. Just like Wade, he only deserves the benefit of the doubt for so many plays before it's obvious that he's doing this stuff on purpose.
 
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You can’t seriously watch that reply and feel this was intentional right? That was a bad angle but he got knocked to the ground and Jokic’s leg happened to be there.
No. He got knocked towards the ground and then lunged for the ball and Jokic's legs were between him and the ball. Maybe justifiable but way more dangerous than what Smart did.

Edit - you need to see the third replay they show
 
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No. He got knocked towards the ground and then lunged for the ball and Jokic's legs were between him and the ball. Maybe justifiable but way more dangerous than what Smart did.

Edit - you need to see the third replay they show
I watched it live and the replay from the other angle a couple times they showed it last night. He made contact with his player who knocked him into the opposing player that knocked him to the ground where Jokic was standing. Everyone on the floor recognized it which is why there was no scuffle.
 

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Dwyane Wade with a 3 point shot…. I mean Bennedict Mathurin…. Another solid game off the bench.
 

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Solid is underselling it. Mathurin has looked fantastic so far, & the Pacers must be both delighted that they have such a great young backcourt (with Mathurin/Haliburton) and sad that they won't be able to tank as hard as they thought for Wembanyama.

 

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Solid is underselling it. Mathurin has looked fantastic so far, & the Pacers must be both delighted that they have such a great young backcourt (with Mathurin/Haliburton) and sad that they won't be able to tank as hard as they thought for Wembanyama.

The great thing about having a stud young backcourt is that you can be incredibly excited about the future AND still lose tons of games!

(especially if the Pacers start firesale-ing vets, which seems likely)
 

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I watched it live and the replay from the other angle a couple times they showed it last night. He made contact with his player who knocked him into the opposing player that knocked him to the ground where Jokic was standing. Everyone on the floor recognized it which is why there was no scuffle.
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I respect your opinion but that looks like he’s going for the ball - knowing Jokic is there and reaching around him - not just falling to the ground with zero awareness or control. In doing so his momentum is further directed at Jokic’s legs. But, whatever. No big deal. I was mostly making a joke and a point about Kerr. It will happen again I’m sure.
 

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The Lakers have to make hay while the sun shines (both Lebron and Davis are on the court). They are a stone cold lock to play a least a big chunk of the season without one or both of them, if they can't at least tread water with them playing then they are DOA.
 

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Lakers were up 7 with ~ 1:50 left.

Still up 1 with ~ :30 left but Russ decides to hoist a midrange 2 to get a "2 for 1" opportunity with the Laker announcers shrieking "NO, Russ, NO!"

PatBev saves the day, drawing a foul on Nurkic for an illegal screen. Only it gets reviewed and the challenge is successful. "Nurkic was in a legal screening position. Beverly took a dive."

Then Dame drains a 3, LeBron ties it, Grant takes the lead back and LeBron bricks his attempt to tie at the buzzer.

Laker post game studio. "They could be 3-0 the way they've played." Uh-huh.

So, so funny.