There's just no chance on the planet they would get away with running it back + the kids.
What does that mean, from the fans? That shouldn’t matter one bit, they have no clue.
Yea, you think they're gonna sell any season tickets if they're like "we figured out what we did wrong against Houston! So we traded gleyber and donaldson and the rest of the team is the same. Let us introduce you to these prospects you never heard of because you're not a nerd."
Sorry, but let me take a different path to this argument.
That's a strange question and actually pretty irrelevant. NY should try to build the best team they can, that may or may not be able to genuinely compete with HOU. Catering to the fans and throwing money around just to throw money around is more likely to lead to an 85 win season than a WS berth.
A healthy squad narrows the gap. Young players getting better (Cabrera and Peraza and a bunch of the pitching) as opposed to old players getting worse (Donaldson and Hicks) can help narrow the gap too.
I praise you and JA for having the resolve to imagine a scenario where a youth movement is all this ownership really needs to do.
It's not what they 'need' to do, it's what they can or should do that will make the team better.
"Behind the scenes, the Yankees front office is telling people in the game that they don’t plan to be players in the top free-agent shortstop market, which is expected to include Carlos Correa, Xander Bogaerts, Trea Turner and Dansby Swanson. They say they’ll move forward with their young infielders, and that they prefer to spend their money on Judge, pitching and contact hitters. Bottom line: I won’t be surprised if the Yankees’ Opening Day infield is Rizzo at first, Torres at second, Peraza at short and LeMahieu at third."
If I were Hal, I'd have to think harder about retaining Cashman than I ever have. He keeps doing the same thing year after year and they haven't broken through. Ultimately, I think he's coming back, but to have a discussion about moving on from him shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.
“Breaking through” is a nonsensical concept when it comes to building teams in current MLB, even the Astros and Dodgers have only won one WS each in recent years. Like Theo said when he first took over in BOS, you try to build 95 win teams and put yourself in contention each year and keep trying to improve, that’s really all you can do.
Good post outside of the already noted King mistake, but I do think Cashman has specific things in mind that we are very unlikely to guess.
They were talking about a deal for Pablo Lopez at the deadline, maybe someone like Matt Brash?
Interesting, thanks. I would at least consider that, actually - tough to part with Brash, but the 2B market is weak right now.
Yeah I tend to disagree with the Astros/Dodgers comparisons. The Dodgers and Astros have at least been to multiple World Series in their runs despite only the 1 title. The Yankees haven’t. By the Yankee standards, Cashman has underachieved. I wouldn’t blame Hal if he explored his options.
"The Yankee standards' Is again an anachronistic and silly concept that has been rendered irrelevant since the recent CBAs have made it very hard to directly use their greater revenues to outspend teams anymore (and simultaneously the sport trended somewhat towards favoring younger players). Obviously their organization is not on the level of LAD or HOU or ATL currently, just as obviously they are in better shape than most of the others.
Silly concept? Maybe to you it is as you’re only thinking about it from a financial perspective. But that’s all you hear from the players and management when they talk about what’s expected from them year in and year out and what they expect from themselves. By any measure, no WS appearances since ‘09 is not nearly a success. A good farm system and consistent playoff berths is certainly not a failure, but for an organization so used to winning championships that’s not only what they’re looking for. At least that’s what they used to be about. Maybe all Hal cares about is getting in the playoffs for the extra playoff revenue."The Yankee standards' Is again an anachronistic and silly concept that has been rendered irrelevant since the recent CBAs have made it very hard to directly use their greater revenues to outspend teams anymore (and simultaneously the sport trended somewhat towards favoring younger players). Obviously their organization is not on the level of LAD or HOU or ATL currently, just as obviously they are in better shape than most of the others.
But yeah, if I was a Sox fan, I'd want Cashman gone too.
It's a silly concept because every team (except the rebuilding ones) want to win a championship every year, calling that 'the Yankee standards' is what I am calling silly.
They could be more aggressive in both trading prospects and also on the FA market. Not getting Bryce Harper was a huge loss.
I definitely want Cashman gone and Boone extended again"The Yankee standards' Is again an anachronistic and silly concept that has been rendered irrelevant since the recent CBAs have made it very hard to directly use their greater revenues to outspend teams anymore (and simultaneously the sport trended somewhat towards favoring younger players). Obviously their organization is not on the level of LAD or HOU or ATL currently, just as obviously they are in better shape than most of the others.
But yeah, if I was a Sox fan, I'd want Cashman gone too.
Of course they expect to win year in and year out. Building a team that consistently gets into the playoffs offers the best chance to accomplish that.
