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The Oilers are waiving Jack Campbell today. $5 million AAV for 3 more years.

View: https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1721965498756108448?s=20


Campbell has an .873 in 5 games; Stuart Skinner is worse at .853. Guess they will call up Calvin Pickard who has some NHL experience and has been half decent in the AHL.

Someone pointed out that San Jose has given up a billion goals but even they have a higher team save percentage than the Oilers.
 

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The Oilers are waiving Jack Campbell today. $5 million AAV for 3 more years.

View: https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1721965498756108448?s=20


Campbell has an .873 in 5 games; Stuart Skinner is worse at .853. Guess they will call up Calvin Pickard who has some NHL experience and has been half decent in the AHL.

Someone pointed out that San Jose has given up a billion goals but even they have a higher team save percentage than the Oilers.
McDavid for Ulmark...make it happen Theo.
 

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Hypothetical question:

If the Oilers offered their 1st round pick for Ullmark, and we had to make the transaction today, would we bite on the offer?

There would be cap hoops to jump through for the Oilers but that would be their problem.
 

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It would need to be a massive overpay. Like two firsts, Stuart Skinner and a prospect. The Bruins are light on goal scoring and the strength of the team is defense and goaltending. I'm not sure trading a key piece of their strength makes sense unless they get overwhelmed. Swayman has been the better goalie so far but Ullmark is not that far behind, Swayman is 2nd in the league in save percentage; Ullmark 13. Ullmark also has a 16-team no trade list. Edmonton is a contender (or at least was when Ullmark needed to submit it) but he's got a young family and has played exclusively in the East so Edmonton may not be on his OK list.

I do think an Ullmark trade is a real possibility in the offseason. Swayman is going to get his long-term, big extension this offseason. He's arb eligible and closing in on free agency so this summer appears to be the time to lock him up. And the price tag is going up as well as he's playing. I think starting in 2024 having both will be cost prohibitive.
 

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I agree that the timing of such a trade isn’t ideal from a Bruins perspective, but I think a trade now with a desperate Oilers team would garner the greatest return.
The cupboards are bare regarding B’s draft collateral over the next few years, but do you trade for futures while making another run? It’s a tough decision.

From an Oilers point of view, Draisaitl is a free agent after next season. They may feel this is their best chance and all they need to do is squeeze into a playoff spot, and anything can happen (as we well know).
 

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I agree that the timing of such a trade isn’t ideal from a Bruins perspective, but I think a trade now with a desperate Oilers team would garner the greatest return.
The cupboards are bare regarding B’s draft collateral over the next few years, but do you trade for futures while making another run? It’s a tough decision.

From an Oilers point of view, Draisaitl is a free agent after next season. They may feel this is their best chance and all they need to do is squeeze into a playoff spot, and anything can happen (as we well know).
Draisaitl for Ullmark & DeBrusk works cap wise. It would be like the reverse Thornton trade!
 

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The goalies -- Swayman and Ullmark -- are the backbone of the team, and they're a big reason why this team hasn't lost a regular season game since before the lockdown* (and, unfortunately, also why they lost to the Panthers). Ullmark leaving would mean that Swayman would play more games, which could cause him to wear down, and would leave them a heartbeat away from having Bussi and who knows who else as the goalies. No thanks on trading Ullmark for me -- they have a chance to win it all this year, can't risk that to sell high on Ullmark.

*Yes, I exaggerated a bit. I know.
 

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Draisaitl for Ullmark & DeBrusk works cap wise. It would be like the reverse Thornton trade!
For sure. I didn’t mean the Oilers would trade Draisaitl, I meant their window of having a McDavid - Draisaidl pairing might be just this season and next, and so they might cough up more for Ullmark than what his value is (whatever that may be).
And the rate that the Oilers are going, waiting until February is likely too late.
 

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Perhaps John Buccigross is a member here?

ESPN anchor John Buccigross proposed a potential blockbuster trade to former NHL player Ryan Whitney on X. In it, Buccigross brought up the prospect of the Bruins trading Linus Ullmark, Jake DeBrusk, Matt Poitras, Fabian Lysell, and a 2026 first-round pick to the Oilers in exchange for Leon Draisaitl and Warren Foegele.
 

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It may sound crazy but I'm not sure if I'd do that. Draisaitl is a top 5 player in the world but he's going to get a contract above Pastrnak's deal after next season that essentially kicks in when he's 30. Trading Ullmark is something I think happens in the offseason and DeBrusk is a UFA but I'm not sure I'd deal Poitras, Lysell and another 1st. The Bruins are so depleted in draft capital and prospects that I'm not sure it makes sense to further dig that hole, even for a super star like Draisaitl. If they binge on super stars they need kids on ELC's to contribute and be good. Taking 2 of the top propects away, 1 of which is already an important part of the team, plus an additional high pick and I'm just not sure they have enough to fill in the gaps.

I say it somewhat jokingly but if we want to go star hunting the better play is to do it in the offseason with Pasta's BFF Nylander. He's younger, expensive but cheaper than Drai, and would only cost cap space and not futures.
 

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not going to link- it’s pretty hateful stuff & don’t want to platform it- but seeing a bunch of stuff that this was intentional? It’s got an ugly cast to it since the Sheffield player whose skate cut Johnson’s throat is black.

I had a hard time seeing intent. I’m not going to watch the video again, once was-too much.
Someone has been arrested for manslaughter in the case, and while no name has officially been announced, it's assumed that the person is Matt Petgrave, the Sheffield player.

https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/nhl-news-and-rumors/manslaughter-arrest-made-for-death-of-hockey-star-adam-johnson
 

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Someone has been arrested for manslaughter in the case, and while no name has officially been announced, it's assumed that the person is Matt Petgrave, the Sheffield player.

https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/nhl-news-and-rumors/manslaughter-arrest-made-for-death-of-hockey-star-adam-johnson
In no way do I see intent to injure someone, but from my 25+ years of playing it looks like he wanted to sell being hip checked and threw his body in the air. You can see someone come close to "undercutting" him and I think he tried to make it look like he got hip checked and, in doing so, hurled his body in a horizontal manner. I said at the time it was a reckless play but I'm not sure I'm OK with prosecuting athletes who play a contact sport at a high rate of speed. You can see reckless plays every night you tune into a hockey game. Sad situation all around.
 

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When I first heard about Adam Johnson’s death, all I heard from level-headed types was that it was a one-in-a-million freak accident. I’ve watched and rewatched and rewatched and slowed down and rewatched the hit several times now… and man. I don’t know what I’m looking at. My ultimate conclusion is that it looks like Petgrave was intent on laying a huge hit on Johnson, took a bit of a poor angle and was going too fast, got a little off balance… and this is where it all goes wrong.

I think Petgrave knew that he was going to either miss Johnson entirely or just give him a glancing blow. In a last ditch/split second attempt to get more body on Johnson, Petgrave throws his left leg out a bit. He was going too fast and his legs went higher than intended. He didn’t try to kill Johnson, but he did try to lay a dangerous hit on him. I really, really don’t see how a toe pick ends up with Petgrave in the position he was.

Guys with games like Petgrave’s are a dime a dozen in lower level hockey. He’s fast and big and plays on the edge, but he also kinda sucks and can do some serious damage if the circumstances are just right.

Maybe there’s some higher-quality footage that will change my mind. But in what I can make it, Petgrave’s skates went from \\ to = in basically an instant. Which shouldn’t happen.
 

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He was arrested under suspicion (uk standard), not because there was probable cause (us standard). This is procedural, not accusatory (yet).
 

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That is about what it would take to get Draisaitl, but I don’t see any team giving out that much without an extension. Plus there’s Ullmark’s no trade clause. I couldn’t see anything like that actually happening.
Is it though? That seems like a shitton to give up. Current Vezina winner and playing like the #1 goalie in the league this year, a 25 goal scorer (though upcoming RFA) an NHL ready 19 year old potential 1 or 2C, a high ceiling prospect, AND a 1st? I love Draisaitl but wow that seems like a huge overpay.

I may be way off.
 

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There's no real comparable for a Draisaitl trade. Probably have to go back to the Thornton trade to find a top 3 player in the league getting traded in-season. And ah, well, moving right along.

The only modern trade that would be remotely close to Draisaitl I can think of is Erik Karlsson to the Sharks. He arguably a top 5 player in the league at the time and was about the same age as Draisaitl is now. Karlsson was entering the final year of his contract whereas Draisaitl has this year and next. The return was 2 young roster players (Chris Tierney and Dylan DeMelo), AHL prospect Rudolf Balcers, signing rights to the Sharks most recent first round pick (Josh Norris) a 1st and 2 2nds with attainable conditions. There was an additional conditional first that was in place if San Jose turned around and traded Karlsson back to an Eastern Conference team, but I wouldn't really include that in the comparison. Ended up being a monster for Ottawa as the first round pick was a season out and ended up converting when Sharks bottomoed out and led to Tim Stuetzle.

I think things have settled in Edmonton. They fired the coach and have won 3 straight to stabilize.
 

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Not NHL news, but since neckguards were discussed here I thought this was a good place to share. I got to my first P Bruins game and was pleasantly surprised to see how many players were wearing neckguards. All but 4 players by my count wore them on the Bruins. The majority on Wilkes Barre also were wearing them.
I also got to see a goalie goal in person.
http://www.Twitter.com/nhl/status/1725716514966216772?s=61&t=_SdvmbsSxS2LzzXDzXDveA
 

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Per The Athletic, Taylor Hall out for the year. He was supposed to be a solid presence for Bedard.

Chicago Blackhawks forward Taylor Hall will undergo right knee surgery and is expected to miss the rest of the season. Here’s what you need to know:
  • Hall injured his knee on Nov. 9 against the Tampa Bay Lightning when he was hit by forward Michael Eyssimont late in the third period.
  • Hall yelled and grabbed his leg when down on the ice. The medical staff came to his aid before he headed to the locker room.
  • The 32-year-old missed nine days and returned on Nov. 18 to play two more games before Chicago kept him home on Wednesday’s road trip to Columbus to be evaluated.
  • Hall has two goals and two assists in 10 games with the Blackhawks this season.
 

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I didn't really remember watching much of Eyssimont before- I thought he was notably playing on the edge Monday night v. the Bs. That hit on Hall was quite a bit borderline too- I don't think the injury was intentional, Hall just caught his edge, but it was a low hit and unnecessarily prolonged, which is what led to the injury. Dude has quickly risen up the Dickhead scale for me.

Bummer for Hall.
 

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Per The Athletic, Taylor Hall out for the year. He was supposed to be a solid presence for Bedard.

Chicago Blackhawks forward Taylor Hall will undergo right knee surgery and is expected to miss the rest of the season. Here’s what you need to know:
  • Hall injured his knee on Nov. 9 against the Tampa Bay Lightning when he was hit by forward Michael Eyssimont late in the third period.
  • Hall yelled and grabbed his leg when down on the ice. The medical staff came to his aid before he headed to the locker room.
  • The 32-year-old missed nine days and returned on Nov. 18 to play two more games before Chicago kept him home on Wednesday’s road trip to Columbus to be evaluated.
  • Hall has two goals and two assists in 10 games with the Blackhawks this season.
Holy shit it was Eyssimont? Someone needs to put that fuckstick on notice. I didn't even know who he was until the other night. Dirty as fuck.
 

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Just watched the “Hit.” What’s dirty AF is the way Eyssimont grabs Hall’s arm and pulls him deliberately to the ice at a crazy awkward angle all the while their legs are tangled, placing Hall’s knee in a hyperextended position even before it gets exacerbated by the WWF bullshit. He’s a cheap shot artist and he’s going after players infinitely more skilled than himself in an effort, I can only assume, to stay with the big club. Fuck him. Get well soon, Taylor.
 

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Just watched the “Hit.” What’s dirty AF is the way Eyssimont grabs Hall’s arm and pulls him deliberately to the ice at a crazy awkward angle all the while their legs are tangled, placing Hall’s knee in a hyperextended position even before it gets exacerbated by the WWF bullshit. He’s a cheap shot artist and he’s going after players infinitely more skilled than himself in an effort, I can only assume, to stay with the big club. Fuck him. Get well soon, Taylor.
What are your thoughts on the McAvoy hit?
 

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What are your thoughts on the McAvoy hit?
The one for which he earned a four game suspension? I didn’t like it at all. It was malicious and were he an opponent targeting say, Brandon Carlo or somebody, I’d be pretty livid. I’m assuming that’s the one to which you’re referring, but if not, I didn’t see another noteworthy one recently.
 

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I don't know how the cap would work. Chicago's cap space is irrelevant. They have $13 million in cap space, most in the league. Edmonton though only has $150,000. Perry + Mrazek is $7.8 million in cap hits and I don't know how Edmonton makes that work, even with retention. They'd have to send Jack Campbell back plus something else. Campbell on his own would cost Edmonton a TON to unlead. Desperate times means desperate measures and all but I can't imagine Edmonton would be willing to spend a fortune to unload Jack Campbell's albatross only to replace him with...Petr Mrazek. Mrazek's better than what they've got and has done a decent job on a bad team but he's a 31 year old pending UFA. He doesn't feel like enough of an upgrade to justify a massive cost. Like if they are going to do somethign like that, it's gotta be for Ullmark/Swayman/Saros not Petr Mrazek.

I also don't quite understand the Perry angle. I thought his value to Chicago, much like Foligno, wasn't really his on ice impact but as part of the leadership structure to help teach Bedard and the kids the ropes. Maybe an offer came around they couldn't refuse but seems early to move a guy like that.

I think Edmonton's kind at a point of no return. They are 10 points out of a playoff spot. That's an enormous hole even though they have 64 games left. The season may not be salvageable. It sounds like Holland is nearing the end of the road and they may be full on panic with McDavid and Draisaitl approaching free agency but they are at the point where they could spend a mountain of assets for a goalie and not make the playoffs anyway because of the hole they are in.
 

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Wait, not even warmups?

Who even cares what the players wear in warmups (if not hate-filled), it's not even televised.

Like seriously, what possible harm is there in letting him wear that in warmups?
 

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I suspect that more than anything else, the reason for the political statement ban is the fear of Ovechkin (and probably most of the other Russian players, honestly) skating around in warmups in a Russian flag jersey with a big Z logo on the front and a Putin nameplate on the back.
 

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Just watched that for the first time, that's a horrible play and it sucks because it seems like the NHL's hands were tied to what they can do. I get the union is there to protect the players from the league, but there has to be an avenue to come down really hard on a guy that has a play like that in him
The league office could have reviewed it for a suspension.
 

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The league office could have reviewed it for a suspension.
Really? I was hoping that wasn't the case based off the tweet, because that was probably one of the more dangerous non hockey plays I've seen in a while. What on earth is the league thinking? Even if you think it's a one off action that's still insanely dangerous and the league needs to set a precedent
 

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I completely missed this during the game. So no penalty and a 5k fine. Sounds about right. I mean, it was accidental, just like Juan Marechal accidentally hit Johnny Roseboro over the head with his bat.