That's not what I said. I think the players see these plays differently than the fans but maybe its wrong.
I know that’s not what you said. It’s what I’m saying. Players get tangled up all the time yet we’ve never really seen this before. I don’t believe it’s on par with all of that other stuff, and I’m not sure those close to the game would agree. We are hearing from vocal GSW supporters.
My read is that players tend to be forgiving for the occasional dirty play but the habitual stuff rubs them the wrong way because they're putting everyone's meal ticket at risk. Guys like Draymond, Rodman, Laimbeer, Bruce Bowen, Zaza, Grayson Allen, etc. who get called out for being dirty by multiple players/teams. The distinction is that the Rodman, Draymond types were dirty but also very good so I think players both appreciate how good they are/were while also being annoyed by some of their antics.
Interesting. I had been doing the charitable interpretation of "these media guys don't know how fucking dangerous that was", but, unfortunately, I think many of them do want to stay on Draymond's good side and to maintain access. Because you're correct, he will be a prominent media member as soon as he retires. Heck, he already is, and he hasn't retired yet.
Artificial turf game, where Suh’s footwear wasn’t that much different than Green’s. I’d rather get stomped on my arm by a 300 pounder than dead on my chest by a 230 pounder
Huh? You still wear cleats on artificial turf. It certainly isn’t flat soled basketball sneakers.
I still am a big Lowe fan but his podcast has taken kind of a weird turn in the last year. He seems to want to showcase more of his personality on certain things while also trying to be an emotionless robot on other stuff…and I think he very often gets it wrong when to do which. There’s a handful of times where something interesting comes up and he grumbles “I don’t want to talk about this” but is willing to go full bore on other less interesting things. His biases also seem to be way more apparent than they were before (or maybe I just didn’t notice them)
We have seen it before plenty of times. The NBA on TNT had Shaq saying he would do what Draymond did and, more to the point, found a clip of Barkley stepping on a fallen opponent with what looked like intent from back in the day.
Okay so we found one time 30-40 years ago + Shaq holding up his tough guy image on air, as he always does, but not actually ever doing it during his playing days. Is there any other evidence that it happens plenty of times?
If you just watched the media, this is what you’d believe happened in Game 2:
I am not going to go searching but I have indeed seen players stepping on others after getting tangled up on ground. Not with the same force as Green but it does happen in my viewing experience. We can agree to move on because it seems fruitless for either of us to try and prove a point.
I also feel like he's been told to feature the ESPN regional beat writers a lot, so there's a ton of pods with mediocre guests (mcmahon, ohm, etc.) rather than the mix he used to have. That helps talk about more teams a bit, but those guys generally are worse than he otherwise would have on and they usually pull the discussion away from tactics to narratives (Windhorst being the worst of that, though usually not a regular guest).
I agree with most of this except that I love Windy and think he is a great guest.
Not to mention that 2 NFL games is the rough equivalent to 10 NBA games (1/8th of the season). Suh was also a repeat offender, and the whole attempt-to-rip-a-guys-face-off was also pretty terrible.
Yeah, if you're going to do narratives, at least bring Windy on and do them right.
Exactly--he is the KING of narratives, and entertaining if you enjoy them. I like Lowe becasue he's the anti-narrative guy but everyone likes a different mix, all good....
Lmao. This is beyond pathetic at this point. The Clippers are performance art of being pathetic.
Agreed. There are some guests that he has on semi-regularly that are legitimately bad. (And the fact that Spears is anywhere close to the podcast helps prove your point. He’s terrible)
Is there a money line on missed Westbrook shots tonight? Wouldn't be surprised if Hyland is let loose too.
He's right about one thing, implicitly: Sabonis is going to be under more of a ref microscope than usual in Game 3. I still expect some pushing and the usual, but he should expect to not get the benefit of the doubt on just about anything.
Kawhi doesn't count. He always misses time in the playoffs, this is a scheduled rest.
That's nicely put. Media herding is weird.
I truly HATE people who talk about guys who are soft, who should toughen up, calling guys "street clothes" etc. But I have to say, c'mon man. I mean, Kawhi looked awesome in game 2 after his supposed injury, and now he can't play? That is really weak.
Claxton needed to roll around on the floor for five minutes, and they might have ejected Embiid.
