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Nice article on Tanner Houck: Inside the reinvention of Tanner Houck | theScore.com

One of the things Bailey learned while studying Houck was that his pitch quality was excellent but he was putting himself in too many tough spots. Houck heard two words often this spring while throwing on the sun-soaked bullpens and backfields of Boston's Florida spring training complex. "I just like to say, 'Over white,'" Bailey said. "'Tanner, you just have to throw the thing over white.' His miss patterns tend to be big east-west. "I think if you look at Tanner, some of the struggles just stem from count leverage. Just recognizing how good his stuff is, and the quality of pitcher he is. Harnessing the strike zone was key." Last season, 26.7% of Houck's pitches came when the batter had the count in his favor. That ranked in the middle of the pack, 318th out of 603 pitchers who threw at least 250 pitches.
For the first time in Houck's career, he's behind batters with fewer than 20% of his offerings this season, the 11th-best rate in the majors. Houck's also tied for the fourth-best percentage of pitches in the strike zone (58%).
 

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Who needs a pedigree? https://theathletic.com/5475370/2024/05/07/red-sox-pitching-staff?source=user-shared-article
The Red Sox have used 19 pitchers this season. Two were Rule 5 picks, three did stints in independent ball, and one was released at the end of spring training. Seven were drafted in the 15th round or later, and two others were draft-eligible but went unselected. Only one was taken in the first round. The Red Sox’s only second-rounder got hurt after 6 1/3 innings, their only fourth-rounder got hurt after two starts and their only third-rounder arrived via the Rule 5 Draft.

No other pitching staff in baseball was built this way.
 

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Zeferjahn promoted to AAA after a dominant AA start, he's probably on the pen radar now too.
Thanks!

If anyone wants to do a stats update on the MiL arms which have a realistic chance of contributing this year, that'd be great. I'll fold it into the running roster-tracking post.

For that, I (personally) usually tend to consider recent performance in the high minors most heavily, keeping in mind that Bailey is very pro-strike/anti-walk. (At this point in the year we're pretty much all recent performance, but a mid-summer option will probably not have their April stats held against them.)
 

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Pretty incredible table from that athletic story:
Top 10 pitching staffs by ERA
[TH]TEAM[/TH] [TH]STAFF ERA[/TH] [TH]1ST ROUND PICKS[/TH] [TH]TOP 5 ROUNDS[/TH] [TH]TOP 10 ROUNDS[/TH] [TH]15TH ROUND AND LATER[/TH]
Red Sox 2.61 1 4 5 9
Mariners 2.98 4 8 9 4
Yankees 2.99 4 7 9 5
Tigers 3.24 8 8 10 1
Orioles 3.31 2 7 7 3
Dodgers 3.35 3 11 13 4
Royals 3.35 5 10 12 3
Phillies 3.36 5 8 9 1
Guardians 3.41 2 8 11 4
Pirates 3.64 2 7 8 4
 

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Thanks!

If anyone wants to do a stats update on the MiL arms which have a realistic chance of contributing this year, that'd be great. I'll fold it into the running roster-tracking post.

For that, I (personally) usually tend to consider recent performance in the high minors most heavily, keeping in mind that Bailey is very pro-strike/anti-walk. (At this point in the year we're pretty much all recent performance, but a mid-summer option will probably not have their April stats held against them.)
I also asked in the mL forums but can't find anything- what the hell is up with Mata? Wasn't he expected to start in AAA at the end of last week?
 

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I also asked in the mL forums but can't find anything- what the hell is up with Mata? Wasn't he expected to start in AAA at the end of last week?
I think that's right, but I don't recall where I read it. He posted on Twitter that he was healthy and ready to go at some point. But I don't know if that meant he was cleared for throwing or ready to start a rehab or what.

Still, quite happy with the current listing in the tracking post:

Bryan Mata: IL forever and ever and ever.
 

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Thanks!

If anyone wants to do a stats update on the MiL arms which have a realistic chance of contributing this year, that'd be great. I'll fold it into the running roster-tracking post.

For that, I (personally) usually tend to consider recent performance in the high minors most heavily, keeping in mind that Bailey is very pro-strike/anti-walk. (At this point in the year we're pretty much all recent performance, but a mid-summer option will probably not have their April stats held against them.)
Calling JM3, calling JM3...
 

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Minor updates and Pivetta returns!

- Bold is the opening day roster.​
- Red indicates no longer on the active 13 (and why.)​
- Callups are indented under the player going on the IL (roughly). They may not have the exact same role, but may correlate with who might be sent down.​
- N40 is for a viable pitcher not on the 40 man. Not meant to be comprehensive. (Please suggest the most likely hot hand.)​


Starting Rotation:
1 Brayan Bello. 15 Day IL (lat tightness, 4/21). Expected back - 5/12 or so.
Naoyuki Uwasawa. Called up 4/28, optioned 5/8.
2 Nick Pivetta (elbow, IL 4/6-5/8)​
Cooper Criswell. Called up 4/13.​
3 Kutter Crawford
4 Tanner Houck
5 Garret Whitlock. 15 Day IL (oblique, 4/17). Throwing but not in rehab. ETA Mid-May.
Joe Jacques (LHP). Called up 4/17. DFA 4/19.
Cam Booser (LHP). Called up 4/19.​

Starting Depth: Winckowski, Anderson, Uwasawa, Dick Fitts? (N40 AAA).​
SP Notes: So far at AAA, nobody among the Gambrel/Alexander/Fitts/Van Belle rotation really stands out. That said, of them all, Fitts has had the greatest number of good starts this year. But that could change with a handful of starts.​

Bullpen:
1 Kenley Jansen
2 Chris Martin
3 Josh Winckowski
4 Chase Anderson
5 Justin Slaten
6 Isaiah Campbell. 15 Day IL (shoulder 4/12). Good reports, but not yet in rehab.
Brennan Bernardino (LHP). Called up 4/9.​
7 Greg Weissert
8 Joely Rodriguez (LHP) DFA 4/28.
Zack Kelly. Called up 4/24​
Bullpen Notes: 40 man depth thin at the moment, but some promising arms are in AAA.​

Minors - 40 man:
Naoyuki Uwasawa. AAA.​
Bailey Horn (LHP). AAA.​
Wikelman Gonzalez (AA). Starting prospect. No realistic call-up chance.​
Luis Perales (A). Starting prospect. No realistic call-up chance.​
Brandon Walter. Injured but is not on an injury list.​
Minors - other: (mostly high minors and therefore possibly relevant to this year)​
Jorge Benetiz (LHP) AAA. A 2 inning reliever in his first AAA season. Lights out with one blip outing so far.​
Luis Guerrero. Power RHP. Being stretched out from 1 to 2 innings in AAA.​
Brendan Cellucci (LHP). A 3 inning reliever promoted from AA to AAA 4/27.​
Robert Kwiatkowski. Another recent AA to AAA promotion. Another multi-inning arm. SSS, but looks good.​
Vladimir Gutierrez. Acquired 4/18. Former starter pre-TJS in 2020. Control issues.​
Joely Rodriguez (LHP) AAA.​
Also on the 40 man are:​
Lucas Giolito: 60-day IL TJ surgery
Chris Murphy (LHP): 60-day IL, likely TJ
Liam Hendricks: 60-day IL, recovering TJ, maybe available post-trade-deadline.
Bryan Mata: IL forever and ever and ever.
Brandon Walter injured but is not on an injury list (possible service time reasons).​
Notes/Transactions:​
Slaten is a Rule 5 claim for this year.​
Joe Jacques was DFA'd to call up Booser and claimed by Arizona. May he forever be an embedded Red Sox.​
Joely Rodriguez was DFA'd on April 28th. Cleared on 5/1 and outrighted to AAA.​
Vladimir Gutierrez was acquired from the Brewers for cash on 4/18. AAA. DFA'd on 5/1 for Dominic Smith. Outrighted 5/6. Former starter pre-TJS in 2020. Control issues.​
Sal Romano was signed as a FA on 4/26. Age 30. RHP, ML exp. Reclamation project.​
Bailey Horn was acquired from the CWS (DFAd) for cash on 4/30. Outrighted to AAA. Age 26. MiL LH relief pitcher.​
Naoyuki Uwasawa. Called up 4/28, optioned 5/8 for Pivetta.​
 
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Looks like Bello should be back to make his next start…..?
So assuming no injuries the rotation will be Crawford, Pivetta, Houck, Bello and Criswell. Very solid.
Haven’t heard anything back on Whitlock for a few days but probably a month. If Criswell is still pitching… well…. I really hope Whitlock is in the pen.
 

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Looks like Bello should be back to make his next start…..?
So assuming no injuries the rotation will be Crawford, Pivetta, Houck, Bello and Criswell. Very solid.
Haven’t heard anything back on Whitlock for a few days but probably a month. If Criswell is still pitching… well…. I really hope Whitlock is in the pen.
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I wonder where Criswell goes when Whitlock returns. My hope is that he stays in Boston for a bit. After tomorrow the Sox only have one more day off the rest of the month, and it would be nice especially for Houck and Crawford to get in a bit of extra rest. I can see a six man rotation being a good idea for a few weeks.
 

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I wonder where Criswell goes when Whitlock returns. My hope is that he stays in Boston for a bit. After tomorrow the Sox only have one more day off the rest of the month, and it would be nice especially for Houck and Crawford to get in a bit of extra rest. I can see a six man rotation being a good idea for a few weeks.
There's certainly going to be a need to transition players into different roles. I don't think this pen works with 5 nominal starters and 3 dedicated long men - Criswell, Anderson, Winckowski. I expect they'll transition Whitlock back into the rotation, but there's no reason that absolutely must happen.

Pivetta, Bello, Houck, Crawford, OTOH - those four spots are pretty much locked in at this point. If any of those guys go on the IL they will always get a chance to return to the rotation.
 

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I think we see Whitlock back to starting and Criswell optioned to keep him stretched out, good as he's been. Someone else will go down at some point I'm sure.
 

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There's certainly going to be a need to transition players into different roles. I don't think this pen works with 5 nominal starters and 3 dedicated long men - Criswell, Anderson, Winckowski. I expect they'll transition Whitlock back into the rotation, but there's no reason that absolutely must happen.

Pivetta, Bello, Houck, Crawford, OTOH - those four spots are pretty much locked in at this point. If any of those guys go on the IL they will always get a chance to return to the rotation.
Per NESN post game, Winck going to WOOstah to make room for Bello.
 

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Per NESN post game, Winck going to WOOstah to make room for Bello.
That's somewhat surprising. It's not outlandish, but he's not at the bottom of the talent totem-pole. So it's either resource-conservation driven (keep, say, Anderson, and option Winck.) And/or his ankle is bothering him.

But if they keep him stretched out as a starter, what's the next move? Wait till there's an issue with Bello/Houck/Pivetta/Crawford/Whitlock/Criswell? Or get him fully stretched out and swap him with Criswell?
 

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That's somewhat surprising. It's not outlandish, but he's not at the bottom of the talent totem-pole. So it's either resource-conservation driven (keep, say, Anderson, and option Winck.) And/or his ankle is bothering him.

But if they keep him stretched out as a starter, what's the next move? Wait till there's an issue with Bello/Houck/Pivetta/Crawford/Whitlock/Criswell? Or get him fully stretched out and swap him with Criswell?
I'm guessing it would be both. I'm curious with this long stretch of games coming up if there is any thought of swapping Criswell and Winck once or twice to in effect have a quasi 6 man rotation working where the other four would get the benefit of an extra day in between starts like they might if the team actually had a scheduled day off.
 

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I'm guessing it would be both. I'm curious with this long stretch of games coming up if there is any thought of swapping Criswell and Winck once or twice to in effect have a quasi 6 man rotation working where the other four would get the benefit of an extra day in between starts like they might if the team actually had a scheduled day off.
Boy, do I hope this is winner winner, chicken dinner because in a vacuum, a team that’s one game over .500 optioning a Josh Winckowski to AAA kinda makes my head explode.
 

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Also due for an update:

- Bold is the opening day roster.​
- Red indicates no longer on the active 13 (and why.)​
- Callups are indented under the player going on the IL (roughly). They may not have the exact same role, but may correlate with who might be sent down.​
- N40 is for a viable pitcher not on the 40 man. Not meant to be comprehensive. (Please suggest the most likely hot hand.)​


Starting Rotation:
1 Brayan Bello. (prev: IL, lat tightness, 4/21- 5/12)
Naoyuki Uwasawa. Called up 4/28, optioned 5/8.
2 Nick Pivetta (prev: elbow, IL 4/6-5/8)​
3 Kutter Crawford
4 Tanner Houck
5 Garret Whitlock. 60 Day IL (oblique, 4/17, turned into TJ issues).
Joe Jacques (LHP). Called up 4/17. DFA 4/19.
Cooper Criswell. Called up 4/13.​

Starting Depth: Winckowski, Anderson, Uwasawa, Dick Fitts? (N40 AAA).​
SP Notes: So far at AAA, nobody among the Gambrel/Alexander/Fitts/Van Belle rotation really stands out. That said, of them all, Fitts has had the greatest number of good starts this year. But that could change with a handful of starts.​

Bullpen:
1 Kenley Jansen
2 Chris Martin
3 Josh Winckowski (optioned WOR, 5/12)
4 Chase Anderson
5 Justin Slaten
6 Isaiah Campbell. 15 Day IL (shoulder 4/12). Began Rehab 5/22. 5 scoreless innings.
Brennan Bernardino (LHP). Called up 4/9.​
Cam Booser (LHP). Called up 4/19.​
7 Greg Weissert
8 Joely Rodriguez (LHP) DFA 4/28.
Zack Kelly. Called up 4/24, optioned 5/26.
Brad Keller. Signed 5/26.​
Bullpen Notes: 40 man depth thin at the moment, but some promising arms are in AAA.​

Minors - 40 man:
Josh Winckowski. AAA. (not doing well - 4.61 ERA)​
Zach Kelly. AAA.​
Naoyuki Uwasawa. AAA. Starter.​
Bailey Horn (LHP). AAA. 1 inning reliever - 1.04 ERA in 7 IP.​
Wikelman Gonzalez (AA). Starting prospect. No realistic call-up chance.​
Luis Perales (A). Starting prospect. No realistic call-up chance.​
Minors - other: (mostly high minors and therefore possibly relevant to this year)​
Jorge Benetiz (LHP) AAA. A 2 inning reliever in his first AAA season. Struggled in May.​
Luis Guerrero. Power RHP. Being stretched out from 1 to 2 innings in AAA.​
Brendan Cellucci (LHP). A 3 inning reliever promoted from AA to AAA 4/27.​
Robert Kwiatkowski. Another multi-inning arm. SSS, but looks good.​
Vladimir Gutierrez. Acquired 4/18. Former starter pre-TJS in 2020. Control issues.​
Joely Rodriguez (LHP) AAA. 7 day IL
Also on the 40 man are:​
Lucas Giolito: 60-day IL TJ surgery
Chris Murphy (LHP): 60-day IL, likely TJ
Liam Hendricks: 60-day IL, recovering TJ, maybe available post-trade-deadline.
Bryan Mata: IL forever and ever and ever.
Brandon Walter: 60 day IL (minors)
Garret Whitlock: 60-day IL TJ.
Notes/Transactions:​
Slaten is a Rule 5 claim for this year.​
Joe Jacques was DFA'd to call up Booser and claimed by Arizona. May he forever be an embedded Red Sox.​
Joely Rodriguez was DFA'd on April 28th. Cleared on 5/1 and outrighted to AAA.​
Vladimir Gutierrez was acquired from the Brewers for cash on 4/18. AAA. DFA'd on 5/1 for Dominic Smith. Outrighted 5/6. Former starter pre-TJS in 2020. Control issues.​
Sal Romano was signed as a FA on 4/26. Age 30. RHP, ML exp. Reclamation project.​
Bailey Horn was acquired from the CWS (DFAd) for cash on 4/30. Outrighted to AAA. Age 26. MiL LH relief pitcher.​
Naoyuki Uwasawa. Called up 4/28, optioned 5/8 for Pivetta.​
Zach Kelly was optioned on 5/26 due to recent high workload and signing HWF (human white flag) Brad Keller.​
Garret Whitlock moved from 15 day IL to 60-day on 6/2, following TJ surgery.​
 
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Chris Martin to the IL with anxiety.

Normally one does not criticize these things since you never know what else might be going on in a player's life. So without implying anything about Chris' exact situation, I'd like to say that I hope the club has some kind of dedicated MH component which might be able to deal with some of these things in-situ. (Not that all of them can.)

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- Bold is the opening day roster.​
- Red indicates no longer on the active 13 (and why.)​
- Callups are indented under the player going on the IL (roughly). They may not have the exact same role, but may correlate with who might be sent down.​


Starting Rotation:
1 Brayan Bello. (prev: IL, lat tightness, 4/21- 5/12)
Naoyuki Uwasawa. Called up 4/28, optioned 5/8.
2 Nick Pivetta (prev: elbow, IL 4/6-5/8)​
3 Kutter Crawford
4 Tanner Houck
5 Garret Whitlock. 60 Day IL (oblique, 4/17, turned into TJ issues).
Joe Jacques (LHP). Called up 4/17. DFA 4/19.
Cooper Criswell. Called up 4/13.​

Starting Depth: Winckowski, Anderson, Uwasawa, Dick Fitts? (N40 AAA).​
SP Notes: So far at AAA, nobody among the Gambrel/Alexander/Fitts/Van Belle rotation really stands out. That said, of them all, Fitts has had the greatest number of good starts this year. But that could change with a handful of starts.​

Bullpen:
1 Kenley Jansen
2 Chris Martin (15 day IL, anxiety 6/2)
Zach Kelly. Called up 6/5.​
3 Josh Winckowski (optioned WOR, 5/12)
4 Chase Anderson
5 Justin Slaten
6 Isaiah Campbell. (optioned WOR 6/6) (prev shoulder 4/12-6/6)
Brennan Bernardino (LHP). Called up 4/9.​
Cam Booser (LHP). Called up 4/19.​
7 Greg Weissert
8 Joely Rodriguez (LHP) DFA 4/28.
Brad Keller. Signed 5/26.​
Bullpen Notes: 40 man depth thin at the moment, but some promising arms are in AAA.​

Minors - 40 man:
Josh Winckowski. AAA. Being stretched out as a starter (not going great - 4.19 ERA as of 6/7.)​
Isaiah Campbell. AAA. (prev shoulder 4/12-6/6)
Naoyuki Uwasawa. AAA. Starter.​
Bailey Horn (LHP). AAA. 1 inning reliever - 1.04 ERA in 7 IP.​
Wikelman Gonzalez (AA). Starting prospect. No realistic call-up chance.​
Luis Perales (A). Starting prospect. No realistic call-up chance.​
Minors - other: (mostly high minors and therefore possibly relevant to this year)​
Jorge Benetiz (LHP) AAA. A 2 inning reliever in his first AAA season. Struggled in May.​
Luis Guerrero. Power RHP. Being stretched out from 1 to 2 innings in AAA.​
Brendan Cellucci (LHP). A 3 inning reliever promoted from AA to AAA 4/27.​
Robert Kwiatkowski. Another multi-inning arm. SSS, but looks good.​
Vladimir Gutierrez. Acquired 4/18. Former starter pre-TJS in 2020. Control issues.​
Joely Rodriguez (LHP) AAA. 7 day IL
Also on the 40 man are:​
Lucas Giolito: 60-day IL TJ surgery
Chris Murphy (LHP): 60-day IL, likely TJ
Liam Hendricks: 60-day IL, recovering TJ, maybe available post-trade-deadline.
Bryan Mata: IL forever and ever and ever.
Brandon Walter: 60 day IL (minors)
Garret Whitlock: 60-day IL TJ.
Notes/Transactions:​
Slaten is a Rule 5 claim for this year.​
Joe Jacques was DFA'd to call up Booser and claimed by Arizona. May he forever be an embedded Red Sox.​
Joely Rodriguez was DFA'd on April 28th. Cleared on 5/1 and outrighted to AAA.​
Vladimir Gutierrez was acquired from the Brewers for cash on 4/18. AAA. DFA'd on 5/1 for Dominic Smith. Outrighted 5/6. Former starter pre-TJS in 2020. Control issues.​
Sal Romano was signed as a FA on 4/26. Age 30. RHP, ML exp. Reclamation project.​
Bailey Horn was acquired from the CWS (DFAd) for cash on 4/30. Optioned to AAA. Age 26. MiL LH relief pitcher.​
Naoyuki Uwasawa. Called up 4/28, optioned 5/8 for Pivetta.​
Zach Kelly was optioned on 5/26 due to recent high workload and signing HWF (human white flag) Brad Keller. Called up 6/5 for Chris Martin.​
Garret Whitlock moved from 15 day IL to 60-day on 6/2, following TJ surgery.​
 
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Another nice performance from Pivetta today. He's had two bad starts (at Atl and vs Mil) but his six other starts have been excellent.
 

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Starters' trends (totally cherry-picked time frames):

Houck
First 8 games: 52.1 ip, 2.24 era, 0.97 whip
Last 5 games: 32.2 ip, 1.38 era, 0.83 whip (though he's really been consistently great all season)

Crawford
First 8 games: 46.1 ip, 1.75 era, 1.08 whip
Last 5 games: 28.0 ip, 6.43 era, 1.36 whip

Bello
First 6 games: 31.2 ip, 3.13 era, 1.07 whip
Last 5 games: 26.2 ip, 6.75 era, 1.69 whip

Pivetta
First 6 games: 30.0 ip, 4.20 era, 1.07 whip
Last 2 games: 12.1 ip, 1.46 era, 0.65 whip

Criswell
First 8 games: 34.2 ip, 2.86 era, 1.12 whip
Last 3 games: 13.1 ip, 7.43 era, 1.43 whip

Houck and Pivetta have been really good "lately" (Houck all season). But Crawford, Bello, and Criswell have really struggled and those cracks in the rotation are starting to show. On the whole, though, the rotation has still been a strength. Season stats:

Houck: 1.91 era, 0.92 whip
Crawford: 3.51 era, 1.18 whip
Bello: 4.78 era, 1.35 whip
Pivetta: 3.40 era, 0.95 whip
Criswell: 4.13 era, 1.21 whip

Houck, obviously, has been way, way better than any of us dreamed he would be. Crawford is right about where I thought he'd be. Pivetta, overall, has been a little better than probably most of us expected. I hadn't heard of Criswell before this year so I had no expectations, and he's been a nice addition. Bello has been the problem. Got off to a good start to the year but has really had difficulties lately. He needs to find his form.
 

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I actually watched the Sox instead of the Celtics last night and despite Pivetta not having a great stat line, he looked good. He got super squeezed on a few pitches and had some ridiculous bad luck on a few hits.